16 Candles (er..intelligence agencies): WAKE UP!!!

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:02 am

A classified US intelligence paper on the effects of the Iraq war....okay....

The document reportedly blames the three-year-old conflict for increasing the threat of terrorism and helping fuel Islamic radicalism worldwide (No!!).

However, a White House spokesman said the newspaper report was "not representative of the entire document".

"They didn't include the BILLIONS of dollars of profit engendered by freedom-supporting U.S. defense corporations, as well as hundreds of millions paid to freelance contractors."

But White House spokesman Peter Watkins hit back at the newspaper's report, saying: "Their [terrorists'] hatred for freedom and liberty did not develop overnight, those seeds were planted decades ago (i.e., 1948).

President Bush, sputtering his simple sentences, insists that America "stay the course."

(Feeling like a jail-house bitch yet?)

Wakey Wake!!

OTST · Post by **OTST** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:31 am

Beheadings are so vulgar. It sounds like a great ending for you and your entire race of shit.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:26 pm

Remember when Colin Powell went to the UN and held up a computer image of a girl's panties for the the UN Club nerds to behold, but the intelligence on the panty acquisition was flawed and it turned out the girl was eau natural?

Good times.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:36 pm

And had the US not toppled Saddam Hussein, these people now enlisting as terrorists would be doing what right now? Enrolling in law school, watching football games, and investing in 401K’s?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:44 pm

Wolfman wrote:And had the US not toppled Saddam Hussein, these people now enlisting as terrorists would be doing what right now? Enrolling in law school, watching football games, and investing in 401K’s?

Think of all the wounded servicemen and women returning to this country in a neck-supporting headgear. How are they going to get a drink of water now?

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:22 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Sudden Sam wrote:I guess it's nice to have it confirmed for those who worship Bush's idiocy, though.
Confirmed by whom?
You've got to be kidding!

The report was completed in April and represented a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government, according to an intelligence official. The official, confirming accounts first published in Sunday's New York Times and Washington Post, spoke on condition of anonymity on Sunday because the report is classified.

Again, anyone who needed this confirmation has their head stuck in the sand. Logic and common sense would allow for knowing that the Iraq war has fomented much more current and future terrorism. Hell, the invasion "confirmed" what radical Islamists have been preaching. The ignorant, poor Muslim in the street now has the "proof" he needed that the US is trying to take over the Muslim world. We played right into the fanatics' hands.

Think about this from the view of the piss-poor Saudi citizen sitting in his hovel eating sheep dung. You think he's not far more likely to sign up for jihad against us? Hell, yeah he is. How hard is this to figure out?!

does it really matter what actions we take? whatever we do al Queda will spin it and use it as recruitement propoganda.

you think they tell the truth when they try and get volunteers?

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:48 pm

I wouldn't give our 16 spy services too much credit. They're still looking for WMDs.

that being said, Sam is right. If you haven't noticed that the terrorism is more widespread and evident now than pre 8-11, you're well over due to lift your head out of the sand.

and peoplel may write off chavez as a kook, but he is only helping to confirm to the nutcases in the middle east that they are not in the wrong.

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:27 pm

A more interesting thread might be titled : 16 Coulters,The many faces of Ann

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:45 pm

mvscal wrote:
Sudden Sam wrote:I'd know that the Iraq war has engendered more hatred for us in the Muslim world.

And you would be wrong.

so you're saying the war in Iraq hasn't increased the hatred of the US in the Middle East?

your credibility just took a major hit.......

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:19 pm

mvscal wrote: Who hates us now who didn't hate us before?

nice try mook, but that horseshit won't fly..........

it's not a matter of "who hates us who didn't before", but rather the number of people that hate us has increased significantly........

which in turn increases the number of idiots willing to strap explosives to themselves......

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:52 pm

mvscal wrote:

Says who? Anonymous flunky? Based on what? A report nobody has ever seen?

Oh...OK.

you're a funny guy, even when you're not trying.......

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:56 pm

Just answer the question, cunt

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:04 pm

can we get this thread back to 16 Candles references? TIA.

The phantorino · Post by **The phantorino** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:53 pm

No, please don't - I'm enjoying the impending mvscal/cuda pile on

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:21 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:can we get this thread back to 16 Candles references? TIA.

Not unless it gets moved to the Invis/Muse fora

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:19 am

The astonishingly gross invasion and despoilment of a soverign nation by the Rummy/Cheney (Chimp puppet) cabal has turned a 9/12 99.9% love of America and all it has REALLY stood for into an absolute disaster for the U.S. and the entire world.

The generals are turning on Rummy.

And yet the cabal has NOWHERE to turn--except a normal and proper Goering/Goebels-like suicide.

The U.S. military machine has been drained--like Viet Nam, like Crassius--and again the vile criminals--like Nixon, like Cheney--are flushed onto the barren field of history's harsh account.

It's not your fault, even if you voted for him. You had no idea how foul and perverted was the neocon agenda. Neither did the Germans. Really.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:00 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
titlover wrote: does it really matter what actions we take? whatever we do al Queda will spin it and use it as recruitement propoganda.

you think they tell the truth when they try and get volunteers?
Sorta like our military recruiters!

yeah, so you know they're doing it.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:43 pm

mvscal wrote: Here it goes: What good is it? What, exactly, were we supposed to do with this "sympathy"?

ever read John Donne........

if you haven't, you should......

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:02 pm

mvscal wrote:
Here it goes: What good is it? What, exactly, were we supposed to do with this "sympathy"?

gee lets see. How about using the half life on that sympathy coin for garnering greater worldwide support to fight the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9 11 instead of haring off into the desert and invading a country that has been shown to have had nothing to do with 9 11?

oh and spare me your usual insult laden reply. if you expected an answer that would agree with your bushyopic view of the iraq war you're posting on the wrong board.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:54 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:How about using the half life on that sympathy coin for garnering greater worldwide support to fight the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9 11
Are you attempting to suggest that we aren't and haven't been cooperating with military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world?

nice deflection.......

not really........

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:47 pm

Feeldix, you smelly cunt, you're just going to come to the same conclusions as mvscal regarding the "War On Terror" in
the long run, namely, "get those Arab terrorists".

Why are you argueing over trivialities?
Actually, you're a bigger dipshit than he is. At least he stands for something, and defends the philosophy.
You on the other hand are a sniping, bitchy, whiny little George Soros, ass-festering complainer.

You bring nothing to the counter-arguement other than reactionary malcontentisms.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:29 am

Ultimately, somebody is going to have to take the oil away from the A-rabs.

They've proven to be just too irresponsible with the money the oil brings in that they can no longer be trusted with it.

If we have to nuke them in the process, so much the better.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:52 am

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:How about using the half life on that sympathy coin for garnering greater worldwide support to fight the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9 11
Are you attempting to suggest that we aren't and haven't been cooperating with military, law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world?

I never said that, nor did I even imply that. What I did say was that we went haring off into Iraq and wasted the opportunity to unite the world against terrorists.

Thus we are we we stand today, Worse off, not better. Divided, not united. All Bush has succeeded in doing is to polarize the world and make the fight against terrorists and terrorism more difficult.

The thing keeping people on task is not "the uniter", but the string of terror attacks that continue to happen around the world.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:03 am

Cuda wrote:Ultimately, somebody is going to have to take the oil away from the A-rabs.

Yeah, and then re-distribute it to the American consumer at a low, low price.

Oh Clowny, your child-like myopia warms my heart.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:21 pm

Martyred wrote:
You bring nothing to the counter-arguement other than reactionary malcontentisms.

and you're a midget.......

you ever read John Donne.......

if not you should......

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:59 pm

Martyred wrote:
Cuda wrote:Ultimately, somebody is going to have to take the oil away from the A-rabs.
Yeah, and then re-distribute it to the American consumer at a low, low price.

.

Why not peddle it to the Chinks at a high, high price?

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:28 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:unite the world against terrorists.

All Bush has succeeded in doing is to polarize the world
You are a pitifully stupid fuck. Yes, he has "polarized" the world between those who support Islamist terrorism and those who oppose it.

.

You really haven't been paying attention, have you?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:24 pm

Cuda wrote:
Why not peddle it to the Chinks at a high, high price?

You say that like the American consumer somehow fits into the equation that includes big oil companies and their foreign markets.

It goes like this....

...you send your kids to die in the sand, so oil company execs can send their kids to Ivy League schools.
At no point does the average citizen reap any windfall from the oil grab. But I'm sure the dazzling military parades and jingoistic
newspaper headlines will be payment enough.

Oh yeah, don't forget the medals. The precious, deeply meaningful medals. That, and $1.00 will get you a cup of coffee. Maybe.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:26 pm

mvscal wrote: Lack of foreign cooperation has never been an issue.

You type quite legibly considering Musharaf's cock is wedged in you ass.

Coalition of the willing....to pay lip-service and grift Yankee dollars.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:35 am

Martyred wrote:
Why are you argueing over trivialities?

Sincerley

The past five years.

Honestly, till the Democrats take issue with and start framing the arguement in the context that the fuzzy wuzzies simply aren't doing as they're told, they're limited to nothing other than reactionary malcontent sniping - they're disgusting.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:49 am

mvscal wrote:I've been paying very close attention and I see that we are and have been receiving excellent cooperation from law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies all over the world. Lack of foreign cooperation has never been an issue.

Bull shit. how many countries have oined the "coalition of the willing" in the last year? Gee, that would be none.

And how many have left? Gee, that would be a lot:

* Italy
* Canada
* Japan
* Bulgaria
* Ukraine
* Nicaragua
* Spain
* Honduras
* Norway
* Dominican Republic
* Philippines
* Thailand
* Hungary
* New Zealand
* Portugal
* Netherlands
* Tonga
* Iceland

but go ahead and spin away as if Bush and his policies are so very popular. You've got your head up your ass if you think that what Bush has done since 9-11 has been successful. He fucked up from day one.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:00 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mister Dumbfuck wrote:
mvscal wrote:I've been paying very close attention and I see that we are and have been receiving excellent cooperation from law enforcement, military and intelligence agencies all over the world. Lack of foreign cooperation has never been an issue.
~list of insignificant contributers snipped!~

Their mission is over and their responsibilities have been handed off to Iraqi units which was the plan from beginning, idiot. Half of the countries on that list never had any troops in Iraq in the first fucking place and many others such as the Canadians are heavily involved in Afghanistan.

Isn't that the same afghanistan that is currently experiencing a resurgence of the taliban? Nice job.

There is no need for Eurotrash troops in Iraq.

This is exactly the mentalaity that has us where we are today. Deeply in debt and getting deeper, with no clear end in sight.

The fact remains that all of them are deeply involved with us in intelligence and law enforcement cooperation.

This is one of the only useful things we are doing in the war on terror.

but go ahead and spin away as if Bush and his policies are so very popular.
We aren't engaged in a popularity contest, you moronic fuck. Sympathy won't buy you cup of coffee in this world, dipshit.

Untrue. If Bush knew how to do so, he could have used that initial wave of sympathy to garner greater worldwide support and a committment to fight this terrorism and we wouldn't be mired in a dead end war and a mountain of related debt as we are now. But he doesn't. He's a myopic cowboy and he has managed to piss away our resources with no tangible progress in the war on terror. .

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:37 pm

Babs as usual is cornred, hunched in his hissing isolationist bluster, insisting that America (and its "exceptionalism") is all that matters, and that somehow the great machine that strode ashore with Mac in the Phillipenes is still bestriding the world as the Great Superpower, etc.

Wake the fuck up, you pathetic jingo cheerleader. The army is QUICKLY running out of soldiers (intractable desert warfare will do that pretty quickly) while the astronomical cost of this Quagmire is draining our already debt-addled economy--which is exactly what the Islamic fundamentalists want.

One point in particular which is most overlooked in all of this is that the MOST opposition to the Islamic fundamentalists is not coming from American forces, but from muslims. That's right, the basic nominally secular muslim locals in Afghanistan and Iraq. The more brutal oppression visited upon the general populace from the West, of course, encourages more and more recruitment for the fundamentalists, just like in the previously secular governed Palestinian territories.

Rummy and his incompetant storm trooping agenda, that is, are the BEST thing that ever happened to the otherwise tiny and marginalized militant fundamentalists. And that's fine with Cheney and his Defense Indusrty buddies.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:27 am

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:no tangible progress in the war on terror. .
Other than having killed thousands upon thousands of their operatives not to mention that most of their senior operational leaders are also dead or in custody. Oh but there's no tangible progress at all, huh?

Fuck you, dumbshit.

Senior operational leaders replaced, Al queda has also morphed into a more fluid organization that requires less immediate local direction, the taliban is re-established in Afghanistan, daily bombings with dozens killed every day in iraq with no end in sight.

Recruitment seems to be going well for the terrorists.

Like I said. No tangible progress in the war on terror. If you kill one rat and two more pop up to take its place, you have not made forward progress.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:33 am

And "Coalition Forces" are getting shot to shit daily. And get ready--because the unthinkable emnity of the Shiite contingent (majority) in Iraq--who we've astonishingly come to support and put into power--is about to erupt. And when we're fighting BOTH the Sunni insurgency and the Shiite majority, it's ALL OVER.

What an unbelievable disaster. Really the worst military miscalculation in modern history, hands down. And WE are going to pay the price.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:06 am

So name a WORSE one, babs.

Gunslinger · Post by **Gunslinger** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:17 pm

mvscal wrote:I'm here, Huckleberry.

Jesus! Not only do you not have your own take which doesnt come from a republican talk show host, but you let Hollywood come up with your quips. You've got to be the most generic uncreative piece of shit that hides behind a keyboard afraid to go outside, because you know someone will kick your ass the moment you talk.

Gunslinger · Post by **Gunslinger** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:22 pm

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Really the worst military miscalculation in modern history, hands down.
Hyperventilate much, faggot?

Faggot?

What are you fucking twelve? Faggot! Thats your attack? Whats next? A joke about men whipping towels? *teehee*

Why havent they not kicked you for your insults that weren't even funny in Middle School. I know thats when your education stopped, but they put up with you this long?

This board sucks!

I'm out again.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:03 am

Suffice to say that from such bottom-feeding parrot (ditto-heads) as babs, to such annointed scum as Tony Snow, NO ONE can offer any defense for the utterly catastrophic disaster of invading Iraq.

Nothing but stuffed bluster, tiny bites, and smears.

Got Fascism?

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:47 am

is gunslinger spewing his un-educated faggott ass off in here as well?
this guy is not only a little fairy pencil neck, but he is a stupid cocksucker as well.
IVE already fully explained why going into Iraq was correct, and proven correct. In 90, the terrorist ruler of Iraq and his regime, invaded one of our allies, we immediately kicked his pussy ass, and then, SPARED his life, with a cease fire, proving that we are indeed compassionate.
The terrorist then proceeded to break 16 resolutions, and break the CEASE FIRE. Once he did that, ITS OVER, the correct decision was made, he was given 48 hours to leave, his regime and his murdering rapist coward fag sons were also told to leave, and, like the dumb fucks they are, they stayed, and thus, they died like squealing pigs.
now, its funny how gunslinger cant connect those very simple dots, INSTEAD, he chooses to be a self-hating, dick sucking traitor, who not only hates himself, but he hates his country as well, AND, were I to meet him on the street, being the gorilla that I am, I'd rid the world of this treasonous Pig, arrest him for sedition for lying about our commander in chief, then, proceed to beat him to within an inch of his life,
may this traitor rot in hell.