UPS batteries dead

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:39 pm

no big storms in the near future so I'm going to wing it until the batteries arrive.

Computer smart people... tell me what I'm risking by letting a dead batteried UPS remain for a week.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:47 pm

Probably risking a bunch of annoying bells and whistles yelling at you.

Are you talking about a little home/small office use UPS, or a larger enterprise-type UPS? The kind that has two 4Ah or 7Ah jars, or the kind that sits in a rack with 24+Ah batteries? Hooked to a domain controller via USB or serial/software driven, or just a basic "plug-it-in-the-wall" thing?

These things make a difference.

What brand of batteries did you order(in addition to many other topics, Dins knows more about batteries than the rest of you put together...trust me on that one). Powersonics kind of suck, but they're usually cheap. Yuasa makes excellent lead-acid batteries, but you would swear they were gold-acid batteries from the price tag.

But, to answer the vague question with generally terms...good chance that nothing with negative connotations will occur, depending on the system.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:48 pm

I'd back up everything you have ASAP. Then ride it out.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:51 pm

these are the big batteries that cost $300 per. I might have to dynamite them out.

server backed up nightly.

contractor computer smart guy won't come in until tomorrow night at the easliest.

If I leave half made shoes, maybe the cobbler elves will finish the shoes and switch out these batteries.

I think I'll ask everyone to start writing things down instead of using the server or peachtree.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:09 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:these are the big batteries that cost $300 per.

Somebody saw you coming.

Unless prices have increased dramatically since the last time I sold them.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:22 pm

Next time go with FedEx.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:31 pm

Depends on the UPS type. After having worked at APC it is possible for a UPS to try to switch to battery for reasons other then a complete loss of power. Higher end models will try to switch to battery for brownouts, spikes, dirty power, ETC.....

Is this an APC model?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:01 pm

Neely8 wrote:Is this an APC model?

Yup. 2200.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:10 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Neely8 wrote:Is this an APC model?
Yup. 2200.

Check your PM's.....

Headhunter · Post by **Headhunter** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:12 pm

Neely, how 'bout you send that PM this way as well. I've got a 2200 at home with bad cells. I want to get that back up and running. Bought it for 20 bucks from a tweaker, and I really want that thing to work, but I'm not down with dropping 300 bones on a battery with 18-36 month life expectancy.

Dins? hook a brutha up?

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:04 pm

rack Neeley...

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:05 pm

Y2K wrote:rack Neeley...

How's the battery I sent ya?

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:25 pm

Neely8 wrote:brownouts

I really see no reason to bring my underoos into this discussion.

Sin,
PSUFAN

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:34 pm

Neely8 wrote:
Y2K wrote:rack Neeley...

How's the battery I sent ya?

Awesome..

I have it backing up my router and cable modem and an empty power stip in case I need to charge a cell phone or listen to the radio. I also have my server hooked to it with auto save and shutdown.

Verrah cool...

Mucho props to neely!

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:25 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote: tell me what I'm risking by letting a dead batteried UPS remain for a week.

Jail, if the neighbors start to notice the stench.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:26 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote: tell me what I'm risking by letting a dead batteried UPS remain for a week.

You should have used FedEx.

(alternate ending)

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:08 pm

Cuda wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote: tell me what I'm risking by letting a dead batteried UPS remain for a week.

I just glass dicked mikey.

(alternate ending)

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:44 pm

Headhunter wrote:I really want that thing to work, but I'm not down with dropping 300 bones on a battery with 18-36 month life expectancy.

Dins? hook a brutha up?

That was another lifetime ago. Heck, I've got a dead UPS(little one), and my personal stash(once large) of valve-regulated storage batteries dried up a few years back.

Sounds like Neely8 is the guy to talk to.

Although, if it's for home use, rather than a big enterprise thingy, you could substitute batteries of a lower amp-hour rating. As long as the voltage is the same(almost all are going to be some number of 12V(technically 12.8) batteries, the UPS (or anything else run by battery) doesn't know the difference(within reason), the only performance difference will be in run-time during a power failure. It doesn't take a whole heck of a lot of storage capacity to run a PC or two for a few minutes(I'm assuming your UPS is software driven(?), and will automatically begin a backup/shutdown routine after a failure(?)).

The (very) small UPS I have at home runs on 2 12V7Ah batteries, which I've never really tested the limits of, but it's definitely enough for several (15? 30?) minutes of working time when the annoying alarm goes off*.

* - I had another small UPS that was modified with external hookups for 12V(sup car battery), and a switch for the alarm...for when you just have to plug something in while camping or whatnot(not that I don't also own a regular inverter, but the modified UPS seemed cooler..."cleaner" voltage)....not sure what happened to that one...I hope one of my friends is enjoying it.

ORRRRRRRRR...you could suck up to whoever services the UPS at your work(assuming there is such a thing). Often times, UPS batteries are changed in banks(depending on size), and often the removed/replaced ones still have a couplefew years of life left. Sin, dude who used to have piles of used UPS batteries, all shapes, sizes, and colors.

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