my hat is off to Texas

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:28 pm

UT played a better, more disciplined game than OU--who blew some chances with penalties and turnovers. And McCoy made plays.

i don't think the "backward pass" call was a good one, but props to UT for playing it out.

i'm sure i'll regret this post after Texas fan shows typical handjob hubris and the UT circle jerk.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:35 pm

Texas is better team than OU, congrats.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:40 pm

i wish Griese would shut up. this game is not on Paul THompson.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:54 pm

not happy with the outcome but Texas made plays when they had the opportunity.
congrats UT fan.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:55 pm

Paul has played a heck of a game. Texas made some big plays in the 2nd half to blow the game open.

The big difference in this game, McCoy played a mother of a 2nd half. Texas play after play knocked the shit out of the Sooners. There are going to be some sore sooners in the training room tomorrow. Peterson got his like I thought he would, atlease he can say he once scored a TD against Texas. Good luck the rest of the year we need the quality points if we are going to move up in the polls.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:12 pm

The difference in the game was the adjustments that Texas made at half time. We were really biting on the play action in the first half. That changed in the 2nd. The defense played well and basically shut down adrian peterson.

Here are a few observations:

Colt is getting better. He ain't Vince but he doesn't need to be. Both TD passes were really nice. Great throws and better touch. He is going to be a good one.

Paul McGuire sucks. Every time they handed the ball to adrian he screamed "He's gone!!!!"

How many times do they have to show Colt's dad? Dude is getting more airtime that Greg Davis.

Is it just me or do the Sooner players talk shit after every play?

Stoops needs to start drinking Sanka. Man does he bitch about everything.

As much as OU fan doesn't like the call, the pass was a lateral.

I am going to have a corndog.

Props to Texas. They are the better team.

I have a feeling that we may be starting a long streak against OU.

Corso and Craig James can eat a big dick.

I am heading to Vegas next week for a convention and plan on picking against every game that Jon=Bitch chooses. I am going to be RICH!!!!!!

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:40 pm

Props to the OU fans for taking their lumps instead of bashing the officiating. I really couldn't blame them at times as some of the calls could have gone either way. If Thompson doesn't over throw some receivers in the 1st half then the game would be a different story. I'm pretty impressed Texas was able to "contain" AD. He got some yards but nothing big and not so much in the 2nd half. The turnovers were a real killer. Always are in this game.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:46 pm

Texas took it to OU, who couldn't capture the halftime momentum, coming out in the 2nd half.

FIRE STOOPS.

Sincerely,

Myopia.

Nice game by Texas. Unrack OU's secondary, with no safety help. The touchdown pass to Sweeny turned the game.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:51 pm

RadioFan wrote:Texas took it to OU, who couldn't capture the halftime momentum, coming out in the 2nd half.

FIRE STOOPS.

Sincerely,

Myopia.

Nice game by Texas. Unrack OU's secondary, with no safety help. The touchdown pass to Sweeny turned the game.

Soonerscoop is going bananas, some of those guys need a hobby that does not involve the Sooners.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:55 pm

Props to the 'Whorns.

Better team won today.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:51 am

Three things I took from the game...
1. Feels kind of screwed up when I feel Colt played a good game, yey threw for only like 99 yards.

2. The Texas defense laid out some vicious hits.

3. Thompson is a senior and AD may turn pro after this year. How will OU recover from that?

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:12 am

Same way OU always recovers ... reload.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:25 am

campinfool wrote:How will OU recover from that?

Pretty much the same way you might recover from an actual pileon, in here.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:09 am

Since they got blasted by USC in the NC game they haven't quite "recovered" yet. They went from a feared and physical team with a swagger and mystique to one that I know OU fans are not satisfied with. I want to know who the next great thing is.

Moby Dick · Post by **Moby Dick** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:24 am

rack the whorns

helluva game

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:38 am

The Texas' D. stuffed A.D., for the most part.

And Texas' special teams were better, without a doubt. OU couldn't get anything going, even with good field position ... i.e. Paul Thompson getting sacked ... and sacked. The sack putting OU out of field goal range hurt, in particular.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:21 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:
There's a lot of noise about a QB who's committed elsewhere who's going to switch, but I can't say who.

I about 90% sure you are talking about Brantley, all the spooners seem to be talking about him switching.

Forget it, he is solid as a rock, he and his father love Texas and want to go to a school that will allow him to redshirt and ease his way into the starting spot.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:24 am

Al that i know is that I was robed today... not of a win, but of myY liver.r I drankl a LOt of Seargrams anD just now got nowme. F'cuk.

the_ousku'l.

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:34 am

the_ouskull wrote:Al that i know is that I was robed today... not of a win, but of myY liver.r I drankl a LOt of Seargrams anD just now got nowme. F'cuk.

the_ousku'l.

post of the year!!!!1

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:38 am

Props to Texas for winning this years edition of the most overrated rivalry in college football. To me, good college football rivalries are between teams that actually play good games. When was the last competitive or exciting OU-Texas game? In the last 10 years, has any game even been competitive? The closest one I can think of is that 14-3 game where the only excitement the entire game was when Roy Williams made that play for a TD. I think I speak for everyone that is not an OU-Texas fan when I say that this rivalry is no longer exciting. It's a boring game every year that forces non-Texas or OU viewers to change the channel by halftime. RIP Red River Shootout

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:14 pm

TheJON wrote:Props to Texas for winning this years edition of the most overrated rivalry in college football. To me, good college football rivalries are between teams that actually play good games. When was the last competitive or exciting OU-Texas game? In the last 10 years, has any game even been competitive? The closest one I can think of is that 14-3 game where the only excitement the entire game was when Roy Williams made that play for a TD. I think I speak for everyone that is not an OU-Texas fan when I say that this rivalry is no longer exciting. It's a boring game every year that forces non-Texas or OU viewers to change the channel by halftime. RIP Red River Shootout

I think you just scored about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 board bitch points for that post. How fucking stupid are you Jon? Do you actually believe the shit you type. Does any thought go into your posts? A rivalary is more than a close game. It is the traditions. Let's see, since you root for a team that sucks balls I guess your rivalry game with Iowa State isn't a good rivalry?

Name a better rivalry game. USC/UCLA? Based on your thought process, if there is such a thing, since UCLA sucks and USC blows them out it is no longer a good rivalry. OSU/Michigan? During the Cooper era, Michigan won 7 of 10 games, so that is a shitty rivalry. Florida/Tennessee? Nope. Florida won too much under Spurrier so that one sucks too.

Last competitive game. Let's see. This game was pretty close until the 4th quarter. Last years game was a big Texas win. 2004 was 3-0 at half time and 9-0 going into the 4th quarter. OU won 12-0. It was very competitive. The only 2 that weren't were 2003 and 2000. 2002 was 14-11 at the half.

If you had a clue about passion and winning you would understand what goes into a game of this magnitiude. I guess that when every reporter that covers the game says it is the best they are full of shit.

How did you do on your locks?

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:40 pm

Man, my fuckin' head is KILLIN' me.

Quick thoughs on the game while the dog is marking his territory...

1) The fact that our players can't wrap up, aren't swarming to the ball, and can't hang on to the fuckin' ball is inexcusable. In addition, we had too many penalties. When you're playing your #1 rival in the most important game of the year, it's as good a time as any NOT to do so with your head up your ass.

A LOT of that is on the coaching.

2) How come every time, for the last two years now, that I've looked up at an opponent catching a long TD pass, the crimson jersey that's running about 3 steps behind him is #25. The D.J. Wolfe Experiment is working ALMOST as well as the Pee Wee Woods Experiment. Get and keep his ass off of the field.

3) Reggie to safety? Fuck that. I'd rather watch Reggie try to lock up a team's #1 and see Marcus Walker try to outjump their #2 than D.J. try to run with their #2. Our secondary is KILLING us this year... KILLING us. At this rate, I don't see how we're going to be able to beat Nebbish and Tech.

4) How many seasons like this will put Bob on the hot seat? This is two sub-par seasons in a row with one of the best ever in the backfield. (No, not Matt Clapp.) And, unlike the Nate Hybl era, circa 2002ish, it's the fault of the defense as much as anything else. The D that Bob Stoops is known for hasn't been here since 2004. If that doesn't get corrected, we're not going to be able to take our seat back at the top.

5) Finishing a fifth of Seagrama before halftime is bad. Going to get another is worse. Just because a liquor store is within walking distance does NOT mean it's a good idea to go there.

the_ouskull

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:16 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Something that's been bugging me.

Best hit from anyone wearing crimson yesterday was dished out by Adrian Peterson.

That's fucking terrible.

I rewatched the game today, wow Texas put on a hitting clinic. Every blOwU receiver took atlease one big shot yesterday. The best shot was delivered to Smith via Erick Jackson, I'm surprised either got up. I really think that the main reason we had two picks at the end of the game was because the Texas DBs got in the heads of the Wrs.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:34 pm

Weird deal about this Texas-OU game. All the OU Honks here are tipping their hats to Texas, saying Texas clearly handed them their asses. Obviously, Texas Honk seems to agree.

The final score definitely agrees.

Thing is...

Team Stat Comparison

1st Downs
Texas: 13 OU: 13

3rd down efficiency
Texas: 3-10 OU: 8-16

4th down efficiency
Texas: 0-0 OU: 1-1

Total Yards
Texas: 232 OU: 333

Passing
Texas: 108 OU: 209

Comp-Att
Texas: 11-18 OU: 15-27

Yards per pass
Texas: 6.0 OU: 7.7

Rushing
Texas: 124 OU: 124

Rushing Attempts
Texas: 32 OU: 36

Yards per rush
Texas: 3.9 OU: 3.4

Penalties
Texas: 3-30 OU: 11-72

Turnovers
Texas: 0 OU: 5

Fumbles lost
Texas: 0 OU: 3

Interceptions thrown
Texas: 0 OU: 2

Possession
Texas: 27:51 OU: 32:09

...it really appears that once you dig beneath the surface of this game you'll discover that OU did in fact outplay Texas all over the field...

...with the exception of OU's eleven (!!) penalties and five turnovers.

Sure looks like OU was able to handle Texas, no problem there. They obviously shut Texas down. Problem was, they beat both Texas and OU in a single game.

Is it possible to cockblock one's self? I think OU just managed it.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:49 pm

Yeah, OU's offense dominated yesterday. Sadly, they dominated Texas' defense as well as our own.

the_ouskull

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:01 pm

skull, it also looks like your defense fairly well dominated the Texas offense. Your offense didn't thoroughly dominate the Texas defense but yep, they did handle them pretty well.

This one looks squarely like you beat yourselves. Sorry to say it too, 'cause it probably hurts more that way than just getting your ass kicked by a superior team, like last year.

Right about now you guys could've easily been all over the "See! Mack can't beat us without VY!" bandwagon and instead you're staring down the barrel of a young Texas team getting better and growing in confidence as a program. You're now staring at the distinct possibility of Texas building their own winning streak against you...

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:34 am

Van wrote:skull, it also looks like your defense fairly well dominated the Texas offense. Your offense didn't thoroughly dominate the Texas defense but yep, they did handle them pretty well.

This one looks squarely like you beat yourselves. Sorry to say it too, 'cause it probably hurts more that way than just getting your ass kicked by a superior team, like last year.

Right about now you guys could've easily been all over the "See! Mack can't beat us without VY!" bandwagon and instead you're staring down the barrel of a young Texas team getting better and growing in confidence as a program. You're now staring at the distinct possibility of Texas building their own winning streak against you...

Stats can be misleading. If they had like 500 yards of offense and we had 202 then it would seem like they beat themselves. Obviously you didn't watch the game. If you had you would be going with the "OU beat themselves and Texas didn't win" bullshit.

Adrian Peterson averages 160 a game. He had 109. Thompson was harrassed all day long. He did have a big 35 yard scramble at the end of the game. The deal was Texas took control in the 3rd quarter. They moved the ball at will. When the game was in hand they got conservative. It got to the point where OU had to pass. PT had 209 yards. The difference was we didn't need to pass in the 4th quarter. OU threw the ball 9 more times than we did. The also ran it 4 more times than we did. 5 turnovers were caused by good defense and great hits. Watch a replay and see how physical Texas was then tell me that OU beat themselves.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:11 am

Harv, regardless of the hits your defense put on OU your offense still only managed 232 total yards. 232 total yards doesn't indicate you merely shut it down in the fourth quarter, it indicates you didn't do much all day offensively, either running or passing.

OU had 11 penalties. 11 penalties is beating yourself. There's no getting around it. Those are unforced errors. 5 turnovers (including two picks) is beating yourself.

Hey, shit happens, but it's obvious most of it happened to OU and much of it was by their own hand.

No matter. The final scoreboard said 28-10 and that's all anybody will remember. I just know I'd be particularly bitter about this one if I were OU Fan. Not Oregon game bitter, no, but bitter nonetheless. I'd feel like if the refs hadn't fucked us in one game and we hadn't fucked ourselves in another we'd be staring at another title run right now. Instead, we're staring at another Consolation Bowl and the very real possibility of a brewing Texas winning streak against us...

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:33 am

If games were won and lost on total yards then OU would be the winners. They aren't.

When a receiver catches a ball takes 2 steps and gets plastered and fumbles, it is not doing it to yourself. If the defender doesn't hit him he makes the catch and OU moves the ball. When a RB is running and gets hit from behind and fumbles it is not doing it to yourself. The fumble doesn't happen unless he gets hit. When a team can bring enough pressure with their front 4 that is domination. We blitzed maybe 3 times the whole game. The bulk of their yards came on a few plays. AD had a run of 29 yards in the second quarter. They also had a big pass for 50+ in the 2nd quarter. PT had a scramble with less than 1 minute left in the game that netted like 30 yards. Our TD drives weren't long drives. I think the biggest was in the 3rd quarter when we had an 11 play 79 yard drive. We also had a defensive TD. They also had 2 INT's. 1 was late and a desperation pass at the end of the game. The other was a great play by Ross.

While OU did outgain us we absolutely kicked their ass. The better team won. I also have a feeling that OU is looking down the barrel of a long losing streak to Texas.....

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:35 am

The key is when Texas got those yards and when OU got their stats. All of Texas stats came via 3 drives in the 1st and 3rd quarter when they put the ball in the endzone. OU moved the ball from their goal line to our 20 all game long but had a lot of trouble in our redzone.

That is a gene Chizik defense, as the field gets shorter the plays he was willing to surreder in the first 80 yards are taken away and it becomes difficult to score. Peterson's TD was a 30 yard run where he broke a few tackles.

OU reminded me of Texas vs tOSU with the way they continually shot themselves in the foot with stupid penalities and costly turnovers. Without the penalities and turnovers this is probably a very very different score but I don't think the game outcome changes because Colt was on fire in the 2nd half and also because Texas was not going to give up lots of TDS. They probably give up a few more fieldgoals but not TDs

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:49 am

Texas won this game as much as OU lost it.
they outplayed OU plain and simple.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:11 am

I also have a feeling that OU is looking down the barrel of a long losing streak to Texas.....

Hmmm... I don't know how pissed this would make me. I mean, I HATE losing to Tejas, but we ususally bust out of those streaks with a championship, which is what's really important.

As for yesterday, I've already offered my opinions, but I'll say it again... they kicked the crap out of us. Stats aside, after Colt's second TD pass, I never felt like we had a chance to catch them.

Now, I'm gonna get back to the Bolts in the Baby Blues...

the_ouskull

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:21 am

As always, let me first offer congratulations to Texas and its fans, especially the ones who post here. As much as I hate to say it, UT is now becoming the program they always should have been. If OU can get some things corrected, this could be an unbelievable series for the next 5 to 10 years. If not, I may die of alcohol poisoning in the shadow of Big Tex.

Texas was the better team yesterday but the game was just another head-scratcher for OU fan who used to expect OU to play its best on the biggest stages. It's amazing how much the OU / K-State Big XII championship game changed the Oklahoma program. It reminds me of the race car driver who has a near-fatal wreck and is never the same. The swagger is long gone and I don't think Bob Stoops knows how to get it back.

Is the staff the problem? Maybe. Leach/Mangino and Mike Stoops were about a gajillion times better than Long/Wilson and Venables. The performance of Venables has been particularly disappointing because he showed so much promise. Now, he seems to be in way over his head. Ultimately, even staff problems land at the feet of the head coach. Bob Stoops needs to find some humility and make some changes. Otherwise, 9-3 will be the norm.

Personnel evaluation would be a nice place to start. Not only has Stoops had some issues with the character of some of the players he's recruited, but he's also repeatedly made questionable decisions on whom to play and where to play them. Lewis Baker at free safety? DJ Wolfe AND Lendy Holmes over Marcus Walker? Why was Wolfe moved to corner in the first place instead of redshirting as a tailback, which would have left him two years of eligibility post-Peterson? Why is Reggie Smith playing a different position every week? Why is OU perpetually starting a young and below-average offensive line?

I'm hopeful that Stoops can turn things around. It might take a couple of years, primarily due to the Bomar bombshell, but Stoops has the ability. In the meantime, I'll be rooting for whomever is playing Arizona.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:45 am

Totally. The fact that DJ Wolfe is still seeing ANY time as a corner makes me sad. Hell, make HIM a safety and make him play either run blitz or deep coverage. Don't give him anything in-between to screw up. Let Reggie have the corner back. Him on one side and Walker on the other would be a great start.

the_ouskull

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:16 pm

It seems that players are the problem. During the "hey day" OU took Blake leftovers, JUCO transfers, and sometimes "lesser" recruits and coached them up into ferocious beasts. Now they they seem stuck on the level of many UT teams used to be. Plenty of star recruit power that don't produce on the field. Don't know if it is coaching because it was not Venables getting burned in the secondary and there was no coach on the playing field in the 4th quarter that stopped on a play before the whistle and gave up a defensive touchdown to the Horns.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:58 pm

Who didn't produce for the Sooners?

QB - Thompson did his job until the end with a couple of passing trying to make something happen

RB - Peterson was Peterson

WR - they made a few big plays

Oline - Now we got someplace on offense to put the blame. But they did a little better than I thought they would. Biggest screwups was all the penalities, for a team dependant on the run to setup the pass that is a killer deal.

DE - played pretty well
DT - got blown off the ball a lot but htey made a play here and there. Good sack on McCoy.

LBs - played pretty well after the first quarter

S - out of position on passing plays a lot in the 2nd half, did well on run support zero big plays

CB - got whipped a lot

about the only place where I would lay blame is the oline and the DBs. The rest played pretty good

Texas made about 5 big plays that became the difference in the game.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:49 am

Yes their players produced, but in years past they produced, kicked ass, and dominated whatever Texas threw at them. I'm not saying they are bad, but there is a noticable difference in their play. For example in the 3rd quater McCot threw a pass to the sideline that old Sooners would have stepped in front of and taken the other way.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:37 am

Yeah, Harvdog, my team reeaaaallllly sucks balls! After this year it will be our 4th 10+ win season in the last 5 years. Man, that is fucking pathetic!

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:37 am

Enjoy these years Jon, because when Kirk finally leaves its back to being Indiana's bitch for you and the hawkeye nation.

But please dont stop with the locks of the week, you just might get Texas another MNC.

campinfool · Post by **campinfool** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:36 am

TheJON wrote:Yeah, Harvdog, my team reeaaaallllly sucks balls! After this year it will be our 4th 10+ win season in the last 5 years. Man, that is fucking pathetic!

10 wins must be real freaking tough when you have to play the likes of Indiana, Purdue, Northwetern, Illinois, Michigan State. Please. Your team gets stuck at 10 wins because once you play a good team they never can handle it and fold and crack like china doll pussies.