Met Coach Hill @ the alma mater yesterday

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:02 am

X was in Fresno yesterday, business trip, went there to settle a civil case, looks like I got it done.

Anyway, drove over to Fresno State to revisit the past, stopped by the football field, walked up to coach Hill and told him that the SoCal alumni crew was supporting him for all things done.

To make a long story short, it was the highlight of my trip and LSU will be plunged by the Bulldogs this weekend.

War Bulldogs!!!!!!!

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:05 am

XXXL wrote: and LSU will be plunged by the Bulldogs this weekend.

Yeah, well, good luck with that.

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:33 am

Jsc810 wrote:Name your bet, bitch. :P

How does a sig bet sound, say one week.

In the spirit of good sportsmanship, I'm in if you are :)

Coach Hill did elaborate on the challenge we face going on the road this week, to play the Tigers, being that we had a tough go with the Rainbows last week.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:07 am

You know, for a big shot lawyer and all, XXXL comes off as pretty naive.

He seems like an easy sell too...Fresno in Baton Rouge and he doesn't even want points?

Straight up on that one?

That takes either a giant nutsack or a peanut-sized brain...and since I've seen his posts, I'm leaning towards the latter.

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:19 am

Jsc810 wrote:LSU favored by 32. I know Fresno has pulled off some upsets, but I really don't think that will happen this weekend.

I didn't check the line, however, we could do this better if I get the point spread. Suppose it will even the playing field. I'm still interested if that sits well with you, Counselor :)

Gotta stand by my team, thick and thin. If Sean Norton plays QB this weekend, it will be his first start. Tom Brandstater may have lost his starting position, so that is a major factor to overcome.

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:20 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:You know, for a big shot lawyer and all, XXXL comes off as pretty naive.

He seems like an easy sell too...Fresno in Baton Rouge and he doesn't even want points?

Straight up on that one?

That takes either a giant nutsack or a peanut-sized brain...and since I've seen his posts, I'm leaning towards the latter.

Whatever :)

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:37 pm

XXXL wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:Name your bet, bitch. :P

being that we had a tough go with the Rainbows last week.

Yeah... sounds like any team named the "Rainbows" would be a real challenge to get by.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:01 pm

Derron wrote: Yeah... sounds like any team named the "Rainbows" would be a real challenge to get by.

ask Alabama......

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:43 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Fresno in Baton Rouge

That's a H&H, right?

Sin,
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Jsc810 wrote:It will be interesting to read the comments of the players and coaches about the atmosphere, perhaps they've never played in front of nearly 100,000 drunken rabid fans who have been tailgating.

JSC knows what he's talking about.

Sin,
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:15 am

Jsc810 wrote:While I have no doubt that LSU could win by 32, the question is whether they will do so, at some point the starters will be pulled.

OK, just looked it up, LSU is favored by 32.5 or 33, and the total is 53.

You're talking about your QB situation as a major factor to overcome, ha. One of your major factors to overcome is that this will be a night game at LSU, which is how God intended football to be played in Baton Rouge. It will be interesting to read the comments of the players and coaches about the atmosphere, perhaps they've never played in front of nearly 100,000 drunken rabid fans who have been tailgating. :)

Methinks the best chance of Fresno beating the spread is for rain, which it has been doing this week. So in the spirit of sportsmanship, I'll give you 33 points for the one week sig bet, and hope that none of the players get hurt.

JSC,

Your on, that is I accept. I knew this (bet) was in the making when it was published last year the LSU was on the horizon.

The LA Times today had the spread at 33.5 and also published a brief comment that the trainers at LSU were stocking up on supplies. I guess they figured Fresno will put the hurt on them :)

Hey, its just a game. I'm looking forward.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:58 am

Jsc810 wrote: One of your major factors to overcome is that this will be a night game at LSU, which is how God intended football to be played in Baton Rouge. It will be interesting to read the comments of the players and coaches about the atmosphere, perhaps they've never played in front of nearly 100,000 drunken rabid fans who have been tailgating. :)

Actually, Fresno plays most of its games at night and I don't know if you've ever looked at who they play, where, and when, but at least that will not be a factor of any kind.

The simple truth is this year's Fresno team sucks ass and prolly won't win another game. Pat Hill is stubborn and has chased away talent because he wants to play "smash mouth" ball against better athletes. He loses his best athletes in these games due to injury and they have no depth. LSU is going to crush the worst Fresno defense that has sucked on the field in20 to 30 years. They are fucking horrible defensively and are predictible on offense.

Many people are still pissed that Cal's coach didn't get the job he deserved at Fresno when Sweeney retired. Pat Hill sucks.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:13 am

Atomic Punk wrote:Actually, Fresno plays most of its games at night and I don't know if you've ever looked at who they play, where, and when, but at least that will not be a factor of any kind.

Hence my "BWAHA"s at JSC. And it's certainly not like Fresno has visited Oregon, Washington, and a whole host of pretty large, rowdy venues in the last couple of years...many of which were night games.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Fresno has much of a chance...although I'd take +33.5 all day long, and twice on saturday. They've only put up that margin of victory twice so far this year, and the teams they did it against aren't anywhere near as good as Fresno...at least not the Fresno I saw play Oregon...although the Oregon game was the one that took the fight out of them for all the rest of the games they've played so far.

And frankly -- I hate LSU, so gooooo Bulldogs! Nice road schedule, LSU. Two whole road games so far this year, and lost both of them. Absolute powderpuff OOC schedule, and insulted the CFB institution by playing them all at home...what a joke.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:28 am

I have to hand it to Bellotti for creating a dominant program. He took Tedford and one or two other FSU coordinators as the younger coaches move up. The difference with Bellotti is that he knows how to run a program and reload.

Pat Hill gets blasted by guys like this receiver that plays for the Chicago Bears... Bernard Berrian. Berrian was telling potential recruits not to come to Fresno because Hill wants to run the ball. Fresno was known for setting up the pass with trick plays and misdirection. Hell, Trent Dilfer and Lorenzo Neal are still in the NFL.

Dins, I don't think LSU will beat Fresno by the spread either due to Fresno having a better QB going in and the team responds to big plays. I'll say LSU beats Fresno by 3 scores due to not knowing what to expect and that LSU will look ahead to the next game.

Chip, you DO watch football outside of your state right? I would ask that of XXXL also... but that's just my insight.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:36 am

Atomic Punk wrote: Dins, I don't think LSU will beat Fresno by the spread either due to Fresno having a better QB going in and the team responds to big plays.

Plus, while I'll admit to only seeing one full FSU game and a few minutes of a couple of others(WAR West Coast night games) -- for better or for worse(generally 'worse' this season), Fresno likes to grind it out in the trenches to an extent. While this kind of plays into a typical SEC team's hands, it also tends to keep scores from completely running away. Sure, LSU rung it up against Arizona (nice OOC schedule, LSU BWAHAHAHAHA...hope it bites your ass come Bowl Season), but Arizona...when they actually figure out what kind of offense they're trying to run, tends to open things up a little, which plays into LSU's ball-control strategy.

Of course, now that I've called my shot, go ahead and assume the opposite will come to fruition.

Bellotti is a very good recruiter. Add to that that the program has "modernized" its image a little, and is catering to today's kids a little more (sup plasma TV and XBOX in every locker), don't underestimate what a gaudy budget can do.

socal · Post by **socal** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:39 am

But what if Pat Hill took an SC transfer into Norman, OK?

:P

TenTallBen · Post by **TenTallBen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:45 am

I'm in with LSU-20
Sig bet with me if you'd like.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:46 am

There is this guy that is the CEO of Nike that has something to do with U of O, or so I've heard.

Dins, this is the wrong thread to admit this, but I now have cordless power tools: Ridgid (don't mock as there is a lifetime warrantee on everything including normal wear on batteries) 1/2" Hammer Drill, Impact Drill, and the new Dual Voltage Reciprocating Saw that uses both lithium ion and Ni-Cad 18V to 24V. Very happy with how they tore apart my sister's garage with ease as I remodel. The price was right and the free impact drill didn't hurt.

Anyway, after Fresno lost to one of the worst teams at Utah State, you can't help but laugh.

Dennis Erickson goes up to Idaho with a new D-1 team and turned that around this fast? What a joke. They must have leanient DUI laws.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:58 am

TenTallBen wrote:I'm in with LSU-20
Sig bet with me if you'd like.

Why, that's pretty darn generous of you Benny...since the sportsbooks are giving 32.5.

:yup,that'sarolleyes:

Atomic Punk wrote:There is this guy that is the CEO of Nike that has something to do with U of O, or so I've heard.

Just the Chairman, now. No longer President or CEO.

Impact Drill

Put a square-drive in that badboy, and you're laying decking like it's going out of style. Booyah.

Cordless ricip saws pretty much blow ass, unless it's really what you need for the spot you're in. Not as bad as a cordless chain saw or anything, but pretty lame. All just depends where you're using them, though. If you're standing next to a gangbox, the cordless shit loses some worth. If you've got no electricity...whole different story.

Erickson has had an impact pretty much everywhere he's gone...it usually doesn't last, though.

But now that Junebug has Glanville on board, I'm thinking Hawaii is going to take ownership of that conference in the coming years. I guess that football-mad state got tired of watching so much talent head for the West Coast to play. WAR -- the last of the Run-and-Shoot(which have I mentioned lately the run-and-shoot came from my high school, as did June Jones?)

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:14 am

The hi-jack fix is in...

I got the cordless recip over a Milwaukee 360 due to me needing it right now and the fact Ridgid dropped the price to $99. I already have the dual charger and batteries so it was a good deal. I use the DeWalt nut drivers for the sheet metal screws and the DeWalt square #1's, 2's, and no need for 3's yet. I took a good look at those razor sharp square screws' points, and they are nasty. The prices are actually reasonable as they are made for wood that tends to split... I think. Then there are the coated Deckmate screws with the blue annodized bits for basic fencing. Of course, I don't have the need for a compressor for using air tools. Naw, I'm happy with the convenience of these tools I just bought.

Now if I had a job site portable generator, then getting the Milwaukee 360 recip would be the way to go. Idid buy their blade pack which ran around $30. Great buy for what you get.

Erickson and Sweeney had a big history coaching together at WASU or Idaho, Montana, or something like that. Erickson and Bellotti have been good about H&H's with Fresno. Last time Dennis brought his OSU team down here as the #7 team, David Carr and Berrian dropped 63 on their 7 or something like that. Oh, but the tables do turn over time like now. This is hard to watch.

Well, June doesn't have anymore 6 year QB's like Timmy Chang, but this new kid is supposed to be better.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:37 am

Atomic Punk wrote:Now if I had a job site portable generator

Not something I ever really deal with anymore, but if I did...if it comes to using a generator for hand tools, I'll take the cordless stuff and extra batteries.

Erickson and Bellotti have been good about H&H's with Fresno.

I think Fresno has always been considered a "friend" by Oregon, especially in the Bellotti era. U of O understands what it's like trying to get bigger name opponents on their schedule, who tend to duck-and-run from up-and-comers.

Last time Dennis brought his OSU team down here as the #7 team, David Carr and Berrian dropped 63 on their 7 or something like that.

Being a Beaverhater, I thought that was pretty awesome. Erickson took the team that Riley built, and took it into the toilet. Then Riley returned, and took Erickson's team and took it deeper into the toilet. But there was a brief stretch where not-THE-OSU forgot they were Oregon State for while...but the natural order of things has been restored. I believe they were coming off the longest losing-season streak in D1 history when Riley came the first time.

Well, June doesn't have anymore 6 year QB's like Timmy Chang, but this new kid is supposed to be better.

Yeah, wasn't Chang like 35 years old by the time he graduated? What, does Hawaii think they're Florida State or something?

But, Junebug(I'm allowed to call him that) will always be my man. They pretty much had to build a new trophy case for what he did at my old school, and he was integral to Portland State's rise from D2 to D1AA. Neil Lomax finished the job of elevating the program, which is finally getting back to playing decent ball after the jump to the Big Sky a few years back.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:57 am

Hawai'i has too much speed for mid-major teams. Chang and Bradlee Van Pelt were fun to watch as they could just hit a long pass or just run. I think the reason they aren't starting QB's in the NFL is because they were able to scramble against mid-major defenses.

June and Jerry will cause damage if they start scheduling tougher OOC games. Their defense isn't locked up yet, but they can move the ball and that QB looks damn good... for a white guy.

If you look at the Portland State coaching staff, you can see many fine young talented coached that will end up at D-1.

U of O understands Fresno and Fresno is cool with Oregon with mucho respect. Too bad my former starting QB and linebacker Tyler Clutts made a crucial mistake up there a few years ago and gave Oregon a 1st down when the game could have been won up there.

Then this year, another ex-Clovis High QB dumbass (Jordan Christensen) tried to down the ball at the 1 and pulled it in for a touchback. Embarrassing to say the least. Of course I only coached Tyler when he was in 6th grade, so I blame Bush for their fuckups.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:17 am

Rack XXXL

Good times
Bad times

Go Dogs!

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:53 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:
Chip, you DO watch football outside of your state right? I would ask that of XXXL also... but that's just my insight.

I tend to surf between the scheduled games, keep an eye on the top 25, but for me, nothing tops Bulldog football, and yes I'm biased.

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:11 pm

An upset would fortify the record books that the mighty Dawgs are known to accomplish.......

War Bulldogs !!!!!!!

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:15 pm

This is going to be great!

Sin,
Flounder

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:01 am

Rack my former QB and LB in Tyler Clutts from my teaching and coaching days. Making up for former mistakes.

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:47 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Big props to Fresno, beating the 33 point spread, 38-6. :)

Awaiting my new sig........

Here it is ;)

"Beware of the Fresno State Bulldogs, they rumble wherever they go, including the Bayou State of Louisiana"

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:51 pm

Comments at the bottom of that page you've linked:

Pat, your biggest problem is you are too loyal to a fault. Your marriage to Dan Brown; WILL COST YOU YOUR JOB, IF YOU DO NOT CUT HIM LOOSE (NOW).. Ravens & Cardinals.

OUR defense?, our NO-defense... poor tackling, no-adjustments,etc. 3rd and long...1st down! GREAT TACKLING TEAMS IN THE PAST NFL PRACTICED TACLKING EVERY WEEK DURING THE WHOLE SEASON. JUST A TIP!!!

Our offense is, run,run on 1st & 2nd down... 3rd and long pass. My 11 year old daughter can come up with a better game plan. Throw deep on 1st down or 2nd..get a flag?

There are great asistance coaches (Boise State, USC, CAL, Auburn, LSU, Texas out there that President Welty can get OVERS on his mistake from 11 years ago when he did not hire Tedford.

Pat, you can fire and hire as the CEO of Fresno State football. You should look for a moving company sooner then later, because someone like the Raiders may still want to hire you since you are a GREAT HC.

Please make changes... So that I can renewal my tickets in 2007.
Billy Lopez
Turlock CA

//////////////

Pat Hill has at least wanted to play the big boys, but his coaching staff and his decisions have caused many of the losses. Piss poor play calling and the defense doesn't know how to tackle. So Jsc, here is the sig I would want you to wear for at least one day after your sig bet expires:

"Fresno State Football? They suck!"

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:31 am

Jsc810 wrote:"I think [LSU] is a heck of a football team … and can play with any team in the country," said Hill

;)

What would my sig have been had the Bulldogs not covered the spread?

Archive :)

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:11 pm

And for the record -- LSU's cheerleaders can't hang with ANY of the PAC10 schools.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:47 pm

And we're just supposed to take your word on that?

pron · Post by **pron** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:16 pm

Dinsdale wrote:And for the record -- LSU's cheerleaders can't hang with ANY of the PAC10 schools.

Rules, bitch. :x

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:34 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, wasn't Chang like 35 years old by the time he graduated?

Maybe, but I think Carlos Huerta still has the record.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:59 pm

XXXL wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:Big props to Fresno, beating the 33 point spread, 38-6. :)

Awaiting my new sig........
Here it is ;)

"Beware of the Fresno State Bulldogs, they rumble wherever they go, including the Bayou State of Louisiana"

I'm assuming that since your an avid Dog supporter and me being an avid Bronco supporter, coupled with the fact that this is Bulldog/Bronco week, we're on for a sig bet?

and don't be asking for any points....

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:23 pm

Felix wrote:
XXXL wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:Big props to Fresno, beating the 33 point spread, 38-6. :)

Awaiting my new sig........
Here it is ;)

"Beware of the Fresno State Bulldogs, they rumble wherever they go, including the Bayou State of Louisiana"
I'm assuming that since your an avid Dog supporter and me being an avid Bronco supporter, coupled with the fact that this is Bulldog/Bronco week, we're on for a sig bet?

and don't be asking for any points....

What is the line?

T1B

Met Coach Hill @ the alma mater yesterday

Met Coach Hill @ the alma mater yesterday

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