The call.....

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:11 am

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20061022_PHI@TB

Under video highlights....Deckerhoff's call on the 62 yarder is a must hear if ytou haven't already.

Not much else to cheer for down here in Tampa.

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:36 am

Fuck off... :)

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:58 pm

I have never sen a team hold as much and not get called as the eagles. There were numerous takedowns. The one on Hovan was the worst non-call I have ever seen. He was actually tackled from behind....no call. McNabb throws a TD.

No wonder you have the best offense in the league. You hold on every play. Terrible.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:26 pm

T REX wrote:I have never sen a team hold as much and not get called as the eagles. There were numerous takedowns. The one on Hovan was the worst non-call I have ever seen. He was actually tackled from behind....no call. McNabb throws a TD.

No wonder you have the best offense in the league. You hold on every play. Terrible.

Holding happens all the time in the NFL.. it's all about technique and not getting caught.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:03 pm

If Philly has the 'best offense' it's because they have the best O-line.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:28 pm

poptart wrote:If Philly has the 'best offense' it's because they have the best O-line.

Please tell that to Andy Reid who refuses to run the ball and control the game clock. Explain to me how a team out-gains another team by over 300 total yards but loses the time of possession??

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:49 pm

That sort of thing used to happen to Oakland sometimes when they ran the west coast offense.
The west coast's short pass is essentially it's version of running the ball.
You can't milk the clock as effectively with that style, and you tend to foster an offensive line that is more 'soft' than a grind-it-down-their-throat line.
Myself, I had a love-hate relationship with the west coast offense.
There's some good and bad that comes along with it.

Bill Parcells says that the most telling stat line in an NFL game is rushing attempts.
He's probably right.
Last week, for example, the team that had the most rushing attempts won 13 games out of 13 played.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:13 am

jiminphilly wrote:
T REX wrote:I have never sen a team hold as much and not get called as the eagles. There were numerous takedowns. The one on Hovan was the worst non-call I have ever seen. He was actually tackled from behind....no call. McNabb throws a TD.

No wonder you have the best offense in the league. You hold on every play. Terrible.
Holding happens all the time in the NFL.. it's all about technique and not getting caught.

Ok.....being completely objective.....Hovan was tackled from behind by an Eagle o-lineman(Runyan I think). No...literally dragged down from behind right in front of McNabb who danced away(probably saying what a great block). It happened repeatedly all game. I hope they crack down on that unit.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:56 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:Holding happens all the time in the NFL.. it's all about technique and not getting caught.
Sin,
The Donkeys' Offensive line since 1996

and the queefs never got away with holding during Priest Holmes big years? Put down the box of cupcakes and be objective.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:59 am

T REX wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:
T REX wrote:I have never sen a team hold as much and not get called as the eagles. There were numerous takedowns. The one on Hovan was the worst non-call I have ever seen. He was actually tackled from behind....no call. McNabb throws a TD.

No wonder you have the best offense in the league. You hold on every play. Terrible.
Holding happens all the time in the NFL.. it's all about technique and not getting caught.
Ok.....being completely objective.....Hovan was tackled from behind by an Eagle o-lineman(Runyan I think). No...literally dragged down from behind right in front of McNabb who danced away(probably saying what a great block). It happened repeatedly all game. I hope they crack down on that unit.

I honestly didn't notice it and the Eagles have been flagged for quite a few penalties this year (at least it seems that way) so I'll take a game where they get some breaks for once.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:04 am

Just watch a replay of the TD he scrambles to his right and hits brown(i think) in the endzone. Hovan comes right up the middle breaks free and then is flat out tackled. Everyone near us in teh stadium were screaming for the obvious hold. No call. This happened at least 5-7 times on key plays. I understand if it has no affect on the actual play but these are times when a sack likely would have occured. Oh well...I'll take the hail o'field goal.

godzilla2002 · Post by **godzilla2002** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:25 am

jiminphilly wrote:and the queefs never got away with holding during Priest Holmes big years?

Nope! And they never got away with any illegal blocks during Danta Hall’s big returns either!

godzilla2002 · Post by **godzilla2002** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:50 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
godzilla2002 wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:and the queefs never got away with holding during Priest Holmes big years?
Nope! And they never got away with any illegal blocks during Danta Hall’s big returns either!
NOPE, just the one against your Donkeys in '03. Shit happens.

"just the one" Try at least two! On one play! Maybe more, but not a single person including the refs missed the 2 that happened right in front of them! But I digress…Shit does happen!

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:00 am

T REX wrote:Just watch a replay of the TD he scrambles to his right and hits brown(i think) in the endzone. Hovan comes right up the middle breaks free and then is flat out tackled. Everyone near us in teh stadium were screaming for the obvious hold. No call. This happened at least 5-7 times on key plays. I understand if it has no affect on the actual play but these are times when a sack likely would have occured. Oh well...I'll take the hail o'field goal.

Your fucking team won on a demoralizing 62 yard field goal. Shup up and enjoy it ok? ;)

BTW, how'd you like Westbrook's run at the end? Pretty sweet, huh?

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:03 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote: Sin,
The Donkeys' Offensive line since 1996

and the queefs never got away with holding during Priest Holmes big years? Put down the box of cupcakes and be objective.
Tell me you're kidding.

No I'm telling you to take the blinders off and put the box of sugar down and realize your team got away with as much holding as anyone.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:11 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote: Sin,
The Donkeys' Offensive line since 1996

I thought you said they were always guilty of chop blocking......

make up your mind bud.....

it can't be both.....

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:51 am

jiminphilly wrote:
T REX wrote:Just watch a replay of the TD he scrambles to his right and hits brown(i think) in the endzone. Hovan comes right up the middle breaks free and then is flat out tackled. Everyone near us in teh stadium were screaming for the obvious hold. No call. This happened at least 5-7 times on key plays. I understand if it has no affect on the actual play but these are times when a sack likely would have occured. Oh well...I'll take the hail o'field goal.
Your fucking team won on a demoralizing 62 yard field goal. Shup up and enjoy it ok? ;)

BTW, how'd you like Westbrook's run at the end? Pretty sweet, huh?

It was great outside of all the holds.

Headhunter · Post by **Headhunter** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:00 pm

Felix wrote: I thought you said they were always guilty of chop blocking......

make up your mind bud.....

First he's gonna shit... Then he's gonna kill us!

Headhunter · Post by **Headhunter** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:02 pm

And BTW, Trexie is right. I know it'll sound like sour grapes, so there wasn't any reason to bring it up, But Ellis & Ware were held the same 5-7 times at least. Ellis in particular

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:44 pm

Headhunter wrote:
Felix wrote: I thought you said they were always guilty of chop blocking......

make up your mind bud.....

First he's gonna shit... Then he's gonna kill us!

RACK all FTARH resets......