Trent Green v. Damon Huard- WEIGH IN

drummer · Post by **drummer** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:00 pm

mvscal wrote:Huard is doing nothing that Green hasn't done better and for a longer period of time. That being said, Huard is playing well enough so there is no need to bring Green back until he is 100% and looking sharp in practice.

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:03 pm

As soon as Green is 100%, he should play. End of fucking story. That being said, Huard deserves a chance to compete next year for the starting job. He's earned that.

See You Next Wednesday · Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:57 pm

mvscal wrote:Sure toss Green aside. What has he ever done for the Chiefs? I mean besides throw for over 20,000 yards in the past five years and lead one of the league's most explosive offenses.

Huard is doing nothing that Green hasn't done better and for a longer period of time. That being said, Huard is playing well enough so there is no need to bring Green back until he is 100% and looking sharp in practice.

Exactly right. You can close this thread now.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:33 pm

losing ones starting job while nursing an injury is probably not the message coaches/owners want to be sending to the other players on the team........

BSmack wrote:Huard deserves a chance to compete next year for the starting job. He's earned that.

yep.......

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:24 pm

mvscal wrote:
Green's production over the last five years clearly puts him in the elite category and those guys don't lose their jobs until they can't play anymore...or they blow up their teams cap whichever comes first.

Belichick would disagree.......

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:57 pm

mvscal wrote:
Drew Bedsore has never been mistaken for an elite quarterback at any point in his career.

so you're saying that New England was paying him 11.5 million/yr. for being a scrub......

gotcha.........

MDTerrapins · Post by **MDTerrapins** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:24 pm

There's an unwritten rule about not giving away a guy's job while he's hurt, but that's pretty much what happened with Drew Bledsoe/Tom Brady... The problem is you can't give him the job back with a short leash because that looks bad too.

I agree with BSmack. It's Green's job this season, then open competition next summer.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:02 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:Has Damon earned the right to rip the yob from Trent, or should Trent get it back as soon as he is cleared by his doctors for full contact?

And if it isn't too much to ask, tighten it up a bit and post a straight opinion on this.

Tighten it up?

But aren't you the guy who said that Trent was the starter when ready? "PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION". Yeah, that's what you said.

So now you've changed your mind and want to discuss it some more, but "tighten it up", eh?

What the hell does this mean, Paul?

Oh, and being as how there was a perfectly good topic that somebody started about TWO WEEKS ago to address this very question... where folks had already weighed in with their opinions... why did you feel the need to start another thread asking the very same question?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:16 pm

mvscal wrote:Sure toss Green aside. What has he ever done for the Chiefs? I mean besides throw for over 20,000 yards in the past five years and lead one of the league's most explosive offenses.

Huard is doing nothing that Green hasn't done better and for a longer period of time. That being said, Huard is playing well enough so there is no need to bring Green back until he is 100% and looking sharp in practice.

No, you don't toss Green aside. You get him plenty of reps in practice, and make sure that he's 100% physically ready. But there's no way you can simulate the speed and hitting of a real game in practice, so you won't really know that he's game ready until you put him back into the fray.

So therefore, you don't fix what ain't broke and Huard remains the starter until such time as he starts struggling and losing games.

Then, you have an Ace in the hole that you can just pull out when and if needed.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:02 am

mvscal wrote:
War Wagon wrote:So therefore, you don't fix what ain't broke
Exactly. Green isn't broken. If he was struggling or playing poorly before he got hurt, you would have a point.

He is a much better quarterback than Huard...you do realise that, don't you?

Green is potentially damaged goods. There's no reason to risk losing a game over what he did over the past 5 years. This year is the only one that matters. Correction: The next game is the only one that matters.

And to tell the truth, there is no way to say that Green is better. You make that judgement based solely on the overall numbers you've observed. I've watched every play of every game for 5 years. Green has under thrown receivers at times. His arm strength is questionable compared to Huard.

As well, Huard has never really been given the opportunity to show what he can do, and now that he has, there's no way in hell it should taken away unless or until he starts showing a weakness that may not even exist.

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:01 am

When Green is healthy and ready to go...you stay with Huard.*

*if he's still winning games.

If he's losing, you throw Green in there.

Under no circumstances do you replace Huard if he's winning, unless you want to make me very, very happy. Let's face it, Green should be ready to go for Sweep Week.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:24 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
mvscal wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote: need I remind y'all what the Chiefs' record against the Mules at home is when I attend that game? :twisted:
So what you're saying is that your mass is large enough to warp gravity at one end of the field thus providing a secret advantage for the home team?
Whatever it takes to help out the home team.

Paul,

Could you please come to Pittsburgh and sit in the end zone behind where I'll be returning punts? With your emense gravitational pull, I'll never fumble again.

sin

Cueball · Post by **Cueball** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:32 pm

Way to keep things tight Paul.
The way I see it, you need to go with the guy that gives you the best chance to win. Right now that's Huard. Jax was faced with a very similar situation last year going into the playoffs and going with the "starter" that hadn't played was the wrong decision. This year DelRio is taking the right appraoch. Huard isn't the answer for any teams future, but he is a serviceable backup when needed.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:35 pm

Mvscal is dead on. Green has been the face of that Franchise and a Pro Bowler. Give him reps in practice and make sure he is healthy, but when he is, he deserves to be the starter.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:13 am

mvscal wrote:He deserves to keep the starting job for the rest of the season.

He'll be week to week from this point on.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:54 am

mvscal wrote:No sense messing with chemistry. Huard has got a good thing going and most importantly he isn't turning the ball over. He deserves to keep the starting job for the rest of the season.

Sincerely,

Just Signed Him Off The Waiver Wire

Fuck you.

sin

Signed Trent Green to IR and am waiting for him to play so I can modify my other Fanball league lineup again

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:56 am

Wagon, what does Huard's performance Sunday do for your take ... ?

Still standing firm, or do you soften a bit and reconsider ..... ?

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:49 pm

R-Jack.

Green was cleared to play last week. Hence him being the emergency quarterback who was dressed on the sidelines.

Jus sayin

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:40 pm

R-Jack wrote:
DallasFanatic wrote:R-Jack.

Green was cleared to play last week. Hence him being the emergency quarterback who was dressed on the sidelines.

Jus sayin
Hey, don't go mudding up the waters with your "facts". Irresponibly spouting off "truths" like this is no way for me to keep my head in the sand. Fuck you for trying to help me figure things out.

Your welcome

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:15 am

poptart wrote:Wagon, what does Huard's performance Sunday do for your take ... ?

Still standing firm, or do you soften a bit and reconsider ..... ?

Huard's performance yesterday was entirely attributable to a broken dick O-line that included the likes of Chris Bober and Kyle (chop block) Turley and clueless WR's like Sammie Parker and Dante Hall who don't even turn their goddamn head to see if just maybe, possibly, a pass might be headed their way after Tony G is left standing on the sideline with a broken wing. :mad:

Never thought I'd say it, but I-65 Jordan Black would be an improvement over those two clowns.

Huards lucky he didn't get IR'ed yesterday. He had somebody in his face every goddamned time that he dropped back to pass. If the KC O-line (loose term) can't protect the QB better than they did at Miami, then it doesn't really matter who starts. He's going to get kilt.

That said, my last word on this was that it'll be a week to week decision.

I'm good with whatever Herm decides at this point.

T1B

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