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Mississippi Neck wrote:
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Cuda wrote:Technically, the Chefs are still behind Denver due to the fact that ALL of their losses are in conference and only 3 of the Donkeys losses are.
Wrong... Division records come before Confrence records KC is 3-1 Denver is 3-2

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Ol' sCuds has never been one to allow something like a passle of messy facts to get in the way of a series of ill-informed and truly ignorant football takes.
Zilla wrote:Looks like Chef Fan had fun last night…fuckers!
Unseasonably nice weather and a charged-up house made for a really good night of ball, Z. Other than the score, I would imagine that you too would've had a pretty good time. HeeHawFan represented well, and no one in Mule gear was used as a urinal, despite the lines. I've found that a shared hatred of all things Primer and Grease makes for fast friendships - ok, tolerance - between Chief- and DonkFan.

Think you, Cat, and IfOnlyIHadaBrain might just be a bit premature calling for the Dawn of the Cutler Era. Clearly, The Schnook is no bargain. But the Joke didn't lose last night's game. Like Herm sez, "you pass to score points; you rush to win games." And your rushing attack wasn't worth a bucket of warm piss last night. You gotta get T. Bell healthy....

With three of the next five on the road, the Chiefs are only a Conference loss-or-two from putting channel-locks on third place in the West. Meanwhile, the Blots game in 'Eggo is the toughest game remaining on the Mister Ed's schedule. You get a fading Cincy at home, and a Seachicken team that hasn't won a game in Elwayville since Morton was your quarterback. As for the Tards and Whiners... Put it to you this way, put Chuckland in the NFC West, and they threaten for the Division. Do you really want to subject JC to the Crow's defense come January?!

While I don't see a Lombardi with 2006-2007 stamped on the side collecting dust in Pat Bolen's office any time soon, I think that the Mules D, a healthy running game, and yes, an efficient, don't-put-him-in-a-position-where-he-has-to-win-the-game Jake Plummer oughtta be good enough to buy a ticket to the dance.

Hate to say it, but we probably won our playoff game last night. Sad to admit that the highlight of the season will probably be the Turkey Night torching of the hated HeeHaws and the fact that your town woke up grumpy this morning. Here's hoping that Herm proves this take wrong....
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atomicdad wrote:It's the beginning of the end of the NFL as we know it. The greedy bastards are slowly pushing to have all games on PPV or in an upper tier cable package at the least. To get the NFL network I would need to shell out extra bones to upgrade to digital cable then pay for a premium tier service. Sorry, I don't watch enough TV or give a big enough fuck about the game to shell out the extra $80 or so a month just to watch a few extra games during the season. The NFL can go fuck themselves over this one as far as I care.
Second.
Third. I listened to Mitch and Len (Chiefs radio network) on Sirius at my relatives' place last night. It was by far better than nothing.
Truman wrote:Beg pardon if my typing appears to be a bit hoarse... Just returned home from a glorious evening at Arrowhead!
I hate you.

It sounded even louder than usual on the radio last night. I was trying to explain to my folks what it's like ... no way to explain it unless you've been.

RACK e. Nice pics. I'm fucking jealous.
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RadioFan wrote:
Truman wrote:Beg pardon if my typing appears to be a bit hoarse... Just returned home from a glorious evening at Arrowhead!
I hate you.

It sounded even louder than usual on the radio last night. I was trying to explain to my folks what it's like ... no way to explain it unless you've been.
Trust me, RaF, it sounded even louder than usual in person last night. Oh, don't get me wrong: e's take on gold-level seating is dead-on. The local gentry that occupy said seats are usually too busy manifesting corporate takeovers while sipping Chardonney and sucking crab legs to bother themselves with anything as mundane as a football game... As for the Great Unwashed who actually gave a flip: The House flat rocked!

I've attended almost 200 Chief games in my lifetime. Atmosphere alone would rank last night's game in my personal top five. No excuses, RaF - your crib is exactly 250 miles from mine. Anytime you want to experience it for yourself - instead of living vicariously through the KC clones - lemme know.
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Truman wrote: Think you, Cat, and IfOnlyIHadaBrain might just be a bit premature calling for the Dawn of the Cutler Era. Clearly, The Schnook is no bargain. But the Joke didn't lose last night's game. Like Herm sez, "you pass to score points; you rush to win games." And your rushing attack wasn't worth a bucket of warm piss last night.
Scoring ten points/game isn't going to win anything.......

regardless of how good your defense is...
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Truman wrote:Anytime you want to experience it for yourself - instead of living vicariously through the KC clones - lemme know.
How about the Baltimore game? :twisted:

Actually, I don't know if I can get off from work that Sunday, but if so, I'll fucking sit in the parking lot at Arrowhead, if need be.
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poptart wrote:I don't believe tossing a 1st yr QB into the Denver offense is going to help matters a whole lot.
so you think Cutler would hurt the Broncos worse than Plummer.....

:lol:
Worse ... ?
Is that what I said ... ?

I say what I mean.

Cutler isn't going to help Denver's offensive matters a whole lot.

I don't think it's 'wrong' to have him take over now though.
Reason being, he will get valuable experience.
When he is THE GUY at the start of the season in '07 he won't be doing so with -- zero -- NFL experience at the position.
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Truman wrote:I went to the game and then showed up late in here. Why Wags has an oz. of patience with me right now is beyond benevolence.
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Rack Truman!
The local news channel had a live pre-game report from the parking lot at Arrowhead stadium before the game; it was cool as hell to see support from Bronco fans. They also showed several KC fans having fun and kidding around with Broncos fans. The biggest rivalry in the AFC west is Denver/KC it’s been that way for a few years now. The loss to SD was hard to take; in fact, it should have hurt more than the loss to you guys but it just doesn’t! The hate and respect for each other is huge. Rack the Chef fans for showing class to the Bronco fans at Arrowhead!!!

As far as me wanting Cutler in… I don’t think he will make the team better, but I do believe he is the future QB for the Broncos. I want to see him get experience. If we stick with Plummer I think our chances of making it to the playoffs are better, but been there done that! I feel it’s time to rebuild and work towards more than just playoff appearances.
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mvscal wrote:
Felix wrote:so you think Cutler would hurt the Broncos worse than Plummer.....

:lol:
Yes. Quite a bit worse actually.
No real surprise. Feeldicks also believes Boise State could beat OU in the Fiesta Bowl. Must be the Thanksgiving sleepiness.
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RadioFan wrote: No real surprise. Feeldicks also believes Boise State could beat OU in the Fiesta Bowl. Must be the Thanksgiving sleepiness.
you know bud....

most of us try not to drag shit from other forums over here....
get out, get out while there's still time
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I don't know what's wrong with me, my brother.
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Peter King is clueless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvcvb4R2EhQ

~ You have a short leash when you play quarterback for Mike Shanahan. ~


HUH ... ?

The leash Elway dragged Rat around on for 3 excellent seasons, I guess he is referring to, because since Horseface retired Rat has basically gone with Griese for 4 straight seasons and then Plummer for now 3 1/2 seasons.

Doesn't look like a short leash to me, particulary in light of the fact that neither one of those dudes has done much for Rat in post-season (1-4 record).



Whatever.
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what we all know was coming is now official.


Updated: Nov. 26, 2006, 11:25 AM ET
Cutler to replace Plummer as Broncos' starting QBESPN.com news services


The Denver Broncos quarterback controversy is headed for a resolution.


Cutler

Head coach Mike Shanahan will turn to rookie Jay Cutler to replace incumbent Jake Plummer for the rest of the season, starting with the team's Dec. 3 game against Seattle.

The Denver Post first reported the change Sunday, and team sources confirmed to ESPN's Chris Mortensen that Cutler will take over. ESPN.com's John Clayton said there's "no question" Cutler will be the starter against the Seahawks.

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2006 SEASON STATISTICS
Att Comp Yds TD Int Rat
315 175 1886 11 12 70.5


Plummer has struggled all season despite leading the Broncos to a 7-4 record. Denver ranks 26th in the NFL with 171.5 pass yards per game and is tied for 21st in the league with 17.7 points per game. Plummer's passer rating of 70.5 is 29th in the league, ahead of only Bruce Gradkowski (70.1), Drew Bledsoe (69.2), Matt Leinart (68.1), Vince Young (56.1), and Andrew Walter (55.0).

That's not the most prestigious list. Bledsoe was benched after six games for Dallas in favor of Tony Romo; Gradkowski, Leinart, and Young are all rookies; and Walter is in his first year as a starter.

Plummer, meanwhile, is in his 10th season and has started 46 straight games for the Broncos since 2003 but has been unable to get the offense moving in 11 games this year.



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I'll be waiting for all those who believe that starting Cutler over Plummer is a mistake to weigh in and explain to me how they know better than Shannahan what's best for the Broncos.....
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Felix wrote:I'll be waiting for all those who believe that starting Cutler over Plummer is a mistake to weigh in and explain to me how they know better than Shannahan what's best for the Broncos.....

What? Has Shannahan never made a mistake in his freakin life? You've NEVER questioned a coach's decision? Never? Get real.

Second guessing coaches in the NFL is..ahem....second only to watching the games. No big deal.
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Mississippi Neck wrote: Has Shannahan never made a mistake in his freakin life?
i'm sure he has......

who knows, this might be a mistake.......but at this point it seems shanny is willing to take the risk-win or lose......

I can live with it......
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Too bad Cutler doesnt get his first start against the Cardinals in a few weeks. That wouldve been better.

In the long run he's your answer..maybe
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Cutler is the right call.

You want your best players on the field... not on the sidelines holding paper and a pencil.

The kid is way more talented than Plummer... and he went to Vanderbilt, not Arizona State. I'm sure he probably knows more about the playbook than Plummer at this short time in his carrer. All he needs is experience.
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mvscal wrote:
montinelevin wrote:The kid is way more talented than Plummer...
Really? When was this established?

If you think it can't get worse than Jake Plummer, think again.

He clearly out played Plummer in the pre-season, and if you saw him play at Vandy... this wouldn't be up for discussion.
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montinelevin wrote:and if you saw him play at Vandy... this wouldn't be up for discussion.
Of course, because college success always translates to NFL success.
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What you talkin bout?

Sinc,

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I'll tell you what.

If the Bolts had lost today, I'd be calling for Whitehurst (or Volek maybe?). Rivers is OK as long as we're winning, but come on now.
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stuckinia wrote:
montinelevin wrote:and if you saw him play at Vandy... this wouldn't be up for discussion.
Of course, because college success always translates to NFL success.
Sometimes...



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...but what the fuck do I know about College Football and Pro Football???

There isn't a single person on this board that knows more about College and Pro football combined than me.

Not One!
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I don't post "normally" anywhere.
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montinelevin wrote:...but what the fuck do I know about College Football and Pro Football???

There isn't a single person on this board that knows more about College and Pro football combined than me.

Not One!
For each of the QBs whose image you have masturbated to, there are at least 10 or 15 losers that never made it. And, if you know so much about football, then why do you continue to post otherwise?
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montinelevin wrote:...but what the fuck do I know about College Football and Pro Football???

There isn't a single person on this board that knows more about College and Pro football combined than me.

Not One!
stuckinia wrote:For each of the QBs whose image you have masturbated to, there are at least 10 or 15 losers that never made it.
Name them... take your time.
stuckinia wrote:And, if you know so much about football, then why do you continue to post otherwise?
Once again... spending time in Iowa on purpose has fucked with your head. Please give me some example's.

Oh that's right, when I said Frank Gore was the steal of the NFL draft by the Niners getting him in the 3rd round???

Yeah, that must be it.
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montinelevin wrote:Name them... take your time.
You listed some of the best QBs in NFL history. No 20/20 hindsight there. But here are a few, Ryan Leaf , Jim Druckenmiller, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich, Andre Ware. This is simply 1st round shit since 1990.
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stuckinia wrote:And, if you know so much about football, then why do you continue to post otherwise?
Once again... spending time in Iowa on purpose has fucked with your head. Please give me some example's.

Oh that's right, when I said Frank Gore was the steal of the NFL draft by the Niners getting him in the 3rd round???

Yeah, that must be it.
OK monkey boy. Your shit stuck to the wall that time. Congrats. I am not positive, but you named some practice squad fodder to be the next TO.
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montinelevin wrote: There isn't a single person on this board that knows more about College and Pro football combined than me.

Not One!
So what's your record in the picks game?

From where I'm sitting, Luther and Big Daddy (fuckers) know more about Pro football than you or I do.
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War Wagon wrote:
montinelevin wrote: There isn't a single person on this board that knows more about College and Pro football combined than me.

Not One!
So what's your record in the picks game?

From where I'm sitting, Luther and Big Daddy (fuckers) know more about Pro football than you or I do.
Are you kidding me?

Not that mtubesock knows shit about shineola, but picking games?
Give me a fucking break. You pulled this one out a few weeks ago, and picking games has very little to do with "knowledge".
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montinelevin wrote:There isn't a single person on this board that knows more about College and Pro football combined than me.

Not One!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Au contraire, Mikey.

It's the only measure of knowing what the fuck you are talking about.

The peeps who don't participate can rant all they want about this and that, but put up or shut up.

Mealy mouthed cowards like you are a dime a dozen.

Play the picks game, or be relegated to having your worthless opinions dismissed out of hand.
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Dismissed by well known board bitch.

Lord help me.
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stuckinia wrote:
montinelevin wrote:Name them... take your time.
You listed some of the best QBs in NFL history.
No shit.

stuckinia wrote:No 20/20 hindsight there. But here are a few, Ryan Leaf , Jim Druckenmiller, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich, Andre Ware. This is simply 1st round shit since 1990.
You said there were 10-15 great college qb's that sucked in the NFL for each great NFL qb.

I'll still be waiting for that list...
montinelevin wrote:
stuckinia wrote:And, if you know so much about football, then why do you continue to post otherwise?
Once again... spending time in Iowa on purpose has fucked with your head. Please give me some example's.

Oh that's right, when I said Frank Gore was the steal of the NFL draft by the Niners getting him in the 3rd round???

Yeah, that must be it.
stuckinia wrote:OK monkey boy. Your shit stuck to the wall that time. Congrats. I am not positive, but you named some practice squad fodder to be the next TO.
Yep, Maxwell turned out to be a bad seed.

So I wasn't to far off... when it comes to character.
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War Wagon wrote:if the shoe fits...
It only fits in your ass.
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montinelevin wrote:
stuckinia wrote:No 20/20 hindsight there. But here are a few, Ryan Leaf , Jim Druckenmiller, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, Dan McGwire, Todd Marinovich, Andre Ware. This is simply 1st round shit since 1990.
You said there were 10-15 great college qb's that sucked in the NFL for each great NFL qb.

I'll still be waiting for that list...
I am not going to make a list. I simply gave you 1st round busts since 1990. That does not include latter rounds of the draft. That also does not include all of the losers drafted since 1979, when Montana was drafted in the 3rd round. You listed 4 great QBs. I listed 8 losers (1st rounders since 1990). Maybe my 10-15 guess was overzealous, but I doubt it.
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Very true.
Most QBs who come into the league as supposed ... hot shit on a silver platter ... end up to be cold crap on a paper plate.

That's why when you DO get one who can really play you nurture him, take good care of him, keep him healthy, pay him, and never let him go.
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