Lamar Hunt 1932-2006

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:55 am

RIP

(be prepared for the Super Bowl to last yet another hour so they can give tribute to him before the game starts...I'm sure Hunt would tell the league to get rid of the shitty half time entertainment and get back to the game)

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:56 pm

Sure Lamar made a lot of money. He also helped make KC a major league city. Without him this town might be Omaha. His ventures here have created thousands of jobs and tax revenue for the city. He's stayed loyal to the city when he could have moved the team to a larger market. He really believed in diversity and was one of the first to bring black players into the league. The list goes on. Anyone who wants to look at how much money he gave to charities, etc. and judge him simply based on that is a certified fucking moron.

Not to mention the Chiefs as an organization has produced millions of dollars for charities over the years. I guess Lamar deserves no credit at all for that. Fuckin' haters. :roll:

420 · Post by **420** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:39 pm

Nixhex wrote:Sure Lamar made a lot of money. He also helped make KC a major league city. Without him this town might be Omaha. His ventures here have created thousands of jobs and tax revenue for the city. He's stayed loyal to the city when he could have moved the team to a larger market. He really believed in diversity and was one of the first to bring black players into the league. The list goes on. Anyone who wants to look at how much money he gave to charities, etc. and judge him simply based on that is a certified fucking moron.

Not to mention the Chiefs as an organization has produced millions of dollars for charities over the years. I guess Lamar deserves no credit at all for that. Fuckin' haters. :roll:

I think you're lost...

You're home

You're welcome.

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:52 pm

420 wrote:
Nixhex wrote:Sure Lamar made a lot of money. He also helped make KC a major league city. Without him this town might be Omaha. His ventures here have created thousands of jobs and tax revenue for the city. He's stayed loyal to the city when he could have moved the team to a larger market. He really believed in diversity and was one of the first to bring black players into the league. The list goes on. Anyone who wants to look at how much money he gave to charities, etc. and judge him simply based on that is a certified fucking moron.

Not to mention the Chiefs as an organization has produced millions of dollars for charities over the years. I guess Lamar deserves no credit at all for that. Fuckin' haters. :roll:
I think you're lost...

You're home

You're welcome.

Nice take faggot. You want to refute what I posted or just act like the ignorant motherfucker you are.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:57 pm

Nixhex wrote:
420 wrote:I think you're lost...

You're home

You're welcome.
Nice take faggot. You want to refute what I posted or just act like the ignorant motherfucker you are.

It's m2, what did you expect?

420 · Post by **420** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:12 pm

Nixhex wrote:
420 wrote:
Nixhex wrote:Sure Lamar made a lot of money. He also helped make KC a major league city. Without him this town might be Omaha. His ventures here have created thousands of jobs and tax revenue for the city. He's stayed loyal to the city when he could have moved the team to a larger market. He really believed in diversity and was one of the first to bring black players into the league. The list goes on. Anyone who wants to look at how much money he gave to charities, etc. and judge him simply based on that is a certified fucking moron.

Not to mention the Chiefs as an organization has produced millions of dollars for charities over the years. I guess Lamar deserves no credit at all for that. Fuckin' haters. :roll:
I think you're lost...

You're home

You're welcome.
Nice take faggot. You want to refute what I posted or just act like the ignorant motherfucker you are.

I already did, you dipshit!

Too bad you can't read a few posts up!

I think... LoganFan is looking for you

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:24 pm

BSmack wrote:
Nixhex wrote:
420 wrote:I think you're lost...

You're home

You're welcome.
Nice take faggot. You want to refute what I posted or just act like the ignorant motherfucker you are.
It's m2, what did you expect?

It all makes sense now. His wind chime receptacle is obviously still sore from the buttfucking the Chiefs gave his 49ers earlier this season.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:41 pm

War Wagon wrote:Why the fuck do you care what it means, Coods?

I appreciate the respect from the fans of opposing teams being shown to one of the founders of the AFL. You have an issue with that?

We here in KC gave an enormous amount of respect, admiration and appreciation for his accomplishments. You don't have to be a member of his family to understand that.

Well, maybe YOU do.

So what you're saying is that you feel validated as a human being because somebody from another city admits admiration & respect for the deceased owner of your city's NFL team- someone to whom you're in no way related, and in fact don't even know personally?

Is everybody in KC as huge a loser as you?

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:36 pm

Just because I didn't mention you, doesn't mean I wasn't thinking of you, Paula.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:22 pm

Cuda wrote:Just because I didn't mention you, doesn't mean I wasn't thinking of you, Paula.

Sometimes I feel I've got to
Run away I've got to
Get away
From the pain that you drive into the heart of me
The love we share
Seems to go nowhere
And I've lost my light
For I toss and turn I can't sleep at night

(chorus)
Once I ran to you (I ran)
Now I'll run from you
This tainted love you've given
I give you all a boy could give you
Take my tears and that's not nearly all
Oh...tainted love
Tainted love

Now I know I've got to
Run away I've got to
Get away
You don't really want IT any more from me
To make things right
You need someone to hold you tight
And you'LL think love is to pray
But I'm sorry I don't pray that way

(chorus...)

Don't touch me please
I cannot stand the way you tease
I love you though you hurt me so
Now I'm going to pack my things and go
Tainted love, tainted love (x2)
Touch me baby, tainted love (x2)
Tainted love (x3)

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:22 pm

Nixhex wrote:Sure Lamar made a lot of money. He also helped make KC a major league city. Without him this town might be Omaha. His ventures here have created thousands of jobs and tax revenue for the city. He's stayed loyal to the city when he could have moved the team to a larger market.

Kansas City in the late 50's early 60's rivaled St. Louis & Chicago for growth.
This made KC a very attractive market - Why do you think Charley Finley moved the A's here?
As for "staying loyal" to the city did you not hear the veiled threats of relocation broadcast when they pushed the stadium hike down Jackson county's throat?

BTW - Just as I said then, it was a bullshit threat beacuse there sure as fuck wasn't another market that could have supported the Chiefs the way KC has. Jackson county voter just caved to the threat.

He really believed in diversity and was one of the first to bring black players into the league.

You sure your not thinking of the Rams and Browns in the 40's

The list goes on.

Anyone who wants to look at how much money he gave to charities, etc. and judge him simply based on that is a certified fucking moron.

Well then I'm your huckleberry - feel free to list all the glorious contributions to society Lamar made.
Then explain how he even gets in the same conversation as Ewing Kauffman.

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:48 pm

KC Scott wrote:
Nixhex wrote:Sure Lamar made a lot of money. He also helped make KC a major league city. Without him this town might be Omaha. His ventures here have created thousands of jobs and tax revenue for the city. He's stayed loyal to the city when he could have moved the team to a larger market.
Kansas City in the late 50's early 60's rivaled St. Louis & Chicago for growth.
This made KC a very attractive market - Why do you think Charley Finley moved the A's here?
As for "staying loyal" to the city did you not hear the veiled threats of relocation broadcast when they pushed the stadium hike down Jackson county's throat?

BTW - Just as I said then, it was a bullshit threat beacuse there sure as fuck wasn't another market that could have supported the Chiefs the way KC has. Jackson county voter just caved to the threat.

He really believed in diversity and was one of the first to bring black players into the league.
You sure your not thinking of the Rams and Browns in the 40's

The list goes on.

Anyone who wants to look at how much money he gave to charities, etc. and judge him simply based on that is a certified fucking moron.
Well then I'm your huckleberry - feel free to list all the glorious contributions to society Lamar made.
Then explain how he even gets in the same conversation as Ewing Kauffman.

Ewing Kauffman was an amazing man himself. Sure Lamar may not have been the philanthropist Ewing was. That doesn't make him any less of a man. Like I stated earlier. The Chiefs organization has given and produced millions of dollars for charity over the years. Lamar being the Chiefs owner deserves some credit for that.

He was a businessman first. I agree with that. But to paint him as the fucking Grinch isn't right. That's all I'm trying to say.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:09 pm

e wrote: take a look across lot M.

Bless our little team and its HUGE Gil Meche and Octavio Dotel signings.

Just what our staff needed ... two more gas cans for the fire.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:53 pm

e wrote: if the team were to sink into a period of crappiness like they did in the 80s, you'd stop seeing sold-out games and the references to being the toughest place in the league to play a road game would dry up and blow away.

Disagree, to the point we'd ever get back to the level we were in the 70's when You'd have 35-40K per game.
The popularity of Chiefs games as a "destination event" (Read Tailgate Cotillion) continues strong.
Credit Carl Peterson for one thing, and that is he put butts in the stands
As for an extended period of mediocrity, what do you call the last 8 years?

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:00 pm

Nixhex wrote:
Ewing Kauffman was an amazing man himself. Sure Lamar may not have been the philanthropist Ewing was. That doesn't make him any less of a man. Like I stated earlier. The Chiefs organization has given and produced millions of dollars for charity over the years. Lamar being the Chiefs owner deserves some credit for that.

He was a businessman first. I agree with that. But to paint him as the fucking Grinch isn't right. That's all I'm trying to say.

And all I'm trying to say to those cannonizing him, both in the media, and on this thread is let's look at Lamar for who he really was. A Savy Businessman who started a rival league and owned the Chiefs.

Nothing more, nothing less.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:39 pm

KC Scott wrote: And all I'm trying to say to those cannonizing him, both in the media, and on this thread is let's look at Lamar for who he really was. A Savy Businessman who started a rival league and owned the Chiefs.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Nobody is trying to cannonize him. He was a visionary and a leader with remarkable ability to get things done. That is a rare commodity. His positive influence has and will be felt by many for years to come, and long after we're dead and gone. He deserves his props and his acclaim after passing, not snide remarks about his perceived faults. If you were expecting Mother Teresa to own your local NFL franchise, I guess you're disappointed. The other 99.9% of us who proudly call ourselves CHIEFS fans will simply RACK! Lamar Hunt.

And that's all I'm saying.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:59 pm

KC Scott wrote:
Nixhex wrote:
Ewing Kauffman was an amazing man himself. Sure Lamar may not have been the philanthropist Ewing was. That doesn't make him any less of a man. Like I stated earlier. The Chiefs organization has given and produced millions of dollars for charity over the years. Lamar being the Chiefs owner deserves some credit for that.

He was a businessman first. I agree with that. But to paint him as the fucking Grinch isn't right. That's all I'm trying to say.

And all I'm trying to say to those cannonizing him, both in the media, and on this thread is let's look at Lamar for who he really was. A Savy Businessman who started a rival league and owned the Chiefs.

Nothing more, nothing less.

He wasn't THAT savy.

sin

The silver market

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:59 pm

War Wagon wrote: If you were expecting Mother Teresa to own your local NFL franchise, I guess you're disappointed. The other 99.9% of us who proudly call ourselves CHIEFS fans will simply RACK! Lamar Hunt.

And that's all I'm saying.

Lamar Hunt should be remembered for what he contributed to the game of Football.
If that's all there is to it, then I'm good with that.
If he had been more than that, which he easily could have, then he'd warrant more.

Maybe you should toss a Rack! on for someone like Mr. K, who really deserved it.
But then that would mean Mr. K and Lamar Hunt would be on the same level, huh?

Now see how silly that sounds?

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:01 am

BSmack wrote:
He wasn't THAT savy.

sin

The silver market

That was his dad - Nelson Bunker Hunt.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:51 am

KC Scott wrote:
BSmack wrote:
He wasn't THAT savy.

sin

The silver market

That was his dad - Nelson Bunker Hunt.

Nelson was his brother. All 3 Hunt brothers took a bath in that debacle.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:56 am

e wrote: if the team were to sink into a period of crappiness like they did in the 80s, you'd stop seeing sold-out games and the references to being the toughest place in the league to play a road game would dry up and blow away.

All you need to do to avoid that is take up a collection to buy season tix for Paul.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:52 pm

R.I.P. Mr. Hunt

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:11 pm

Goodbye Mr. Hunt. RIP.

The story of Hunt and Bud Adams getting thrown out of Papa Bear's office is still funny.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:56 pm

I did find something in today's KC Star about Lamar's Philanthropy:

Charity
Truly the heart of a champion
Hunt was a benefactor of causes from art to music to education.
By RANDY COVITZ
The Kansas City Star

Lamar Hunt donated his time and his money to several philanthropic endeavors, both in his hometown of Dallas and his adopted home of Kansas City.

Hunt was a supporter of the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art and Starlight Theatre in Kansas City, and was a benefactor of the Dallas Museum of Art, the Dallas Symphony Orchestra and several causes related to education, children’s charities and fine arts.

Two of the projects closest to his heart were his alma mater — Southern Methodist University — and a middle-school program, Heart of a Champion, which is a nonprofit entity that focuses on character development.

Hunt was co-chairman of SMU’s campaign to build a new, 32,000-seat on-campus football stadium that opened in 2000 and helped raise $60 million in 18 months for the project. Hunt and his wife, Norma, contributed $5 million.

“He wrote letters, he talked to people, he was very active,” said former SMU athletic director Jim Copeland. “He wasn’t just a figurehead.”

Hunt also was a 1973 recipient of SMU’s highest honor, the Distinguished Alumni Award, and he and Norma are one of nine donors listed in the scholarship category of SMU’s donors, which includes those who give $30,000 annually to fund scholarships.

The Heart of a Champion Foundation is based in Dallas, where the program was launched in 2001, and Hunt introduced it in Kansas City, where it helps about 10,000 middle and junior high students at 17 schools in the metropolitan area.

“Lamar was one of the wonderful individuals who has from the very beginning believed in the program and believed in its necessity in terms of how valuable character development is for kids today,” said Steve Riach, chairman of the Heart of a Champion Foundation

Heart of a Champion is a nine-month program that is taught in class during school hours or in an after-school setting such as the Boys and Girls Clubs. The program includes an in-class curriculum in which students have workbooks, watch videotapes and go through exercises that develop character.

“I have met fewer finer men than Lamar,” Riach said. “Heart of a Champion would not be having the impact we’re having today were it nor not for the efforts of Lamar Hunt and his family.”

I had never heard of the Heart of a Champion Program, so props to him for that.