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Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:57 pm

Drank some Jubelales last night.

Yummy.

YD · Post by YD » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:17 pm

I pulled the old "sixer mixer"

2 Jubels (good this yr, btw)
2 mirror ponds
2 Porters

had a rehearsal so it was great fuel for the rock machine

bwahahahaha @ the midwesterners

I think what professor dinsdale is trying to get across is....well........

see how fes wrote about all the local beers he thought sucked, in that post up there?

there aren't that many shitty micros in the whole state of Oregon*

*as long as you dont count faggy project/fruit concoctions (sup ruby)

bwah

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:07 pm

Recently, somebody claimed there were approximately 1000 different micros made in the Portland metro area.

One fucking thousand.

Number sounds awfully high to me, but still...

one thousand.

There's bound to be a few dogs in there...like just about anything made by Rogue(who isn't originally from Portland, but rather Newport. They're just trying to step to McMenamin's gig, by opening brew pubs in the metro area, and doing a poor job of it, quality-wise).

But it's obvious the Flyovers don't have any grasp of the scope of the industry. Or where they get their business model and hops from.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:18 pm

I once visited Eugene to meet up with an old girlfriend and we traveled all over the place, up the coast, over to Mt. Bachelor to ski, even to some of the lumberjack bars.

A lot of the restaurants and bars brewed their own beers and some of them were fantastic. Good beer was everywhere.

And PSU, that picture of the old Hamm's plant is like a dagger to my heart. If I put away enough Hamm's 30-packs, maybe they'll re-open and give me a job in the tasting department.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:23 pm

Fes has at least a grasp...but as vibrant as the industry is in Eugene and Bend, neither is even a drop in the bucket compared to the Portland area...not even close.

Although I think it's the Eugene City Brewery, that instead of passing out bottle openers or that kind of stuff as promo gear, they actually hand out Eugene City Brewery condoms. Little ducks on the wrapper and stuff.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:31 pm

The two things I remember most about Oregon:

Great coffee
Great beer

Also, the people tend to violate your personal space for some reason. The hippies in Eugene were always crowding me, man.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:40 pm

Fester,

Your post about Wisconsin beers read like a tour of mediocre Wisconsin breweries. You hit most of the low points, other than Pabst, Schlitz and Miller.

Next time you’re in town, chase down any of the Lake Louie beers. Excellent stuff. The Great Dane also brews excellent beer. J. T. Whitney’s on the west side and Grumpy Troll in Mt. Horeb have good reputations, though I’ve not tried either one. Tyranena in Lake Mills makes some very good ales, and Sand Creek Brewery in Black River Falls makes an excellent IPA.

A few of the guys from Angelic opened up a new brewpub on the East Side (about freaking time), they’re making very good stuff and they’re starting to bottle it. It’s about a mile from my house, so if you’re going to be in town, PM me and we might meet up there. And my favorite neighborhood sports bar recently added Summit Extra Pale Ale to their tapper lineup.

I also like some other regional breweries like Three Floyd’s in Indiana and Kalamazoo Brewing (Bell’s) in Michigan. For my money, all of the above are superior to Capital or New Glarus.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:52 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:The two things I remember most about Oregon:

Great coffee

Best in the country. http://www.roastmagazine.com/backissues ... ear06.html

Great beer

Best in the country, probably the world.

Also grows the best weed in the world, and has the highest concentration of "silly mushrroms" in the world.

Seeing a trend here?

Oregonians -- Masters of the buzz.

Also, the people tend to violate your personal space for some reason. The hippies in Eugene were always crowding me, man.

Uhm, that's not an "Oregon" thing, Fes...it's a "gay" thing. Quite a few of those bumping around Eugene...mostly chicks, but plenty of Ciceros, too.

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:12 pm

Hammerhead
A classic Northwest pale ale and McMenamins top selling beer. This rich chestnut colored gem is a model of harmony between hops and malted barley. Hammerhead's signature Cascade hop nose and intense hopped flavor blend nicely with the caramel tones from the crystal malt. This beer has a vocal following. To run out is an unforgivable sin.
Malts: Pale Malt; Crystal Malt
Hops: Cascades
Specifications: Original Gravity: 1.056; Terminal Gravity: 1.010; Alcohol by Weight: 4.7%
Calories/pint: 241

Poker was Saturday and I felt like I should drink beer. I went over to McMenamins and dragged in my old large glass jar that used to hold pepperoncini. McMens will pretty much fill up anything, so I used that. Hammerhead isn't necessarily my favorite, but it has been around for years and is always a great staple beer. I found out though that HH is really good with cigars.

I just sat there with my Ashton cigar and my glass tub of beer and couldn't have cared less. I lost money that night and I didn't really give a shit. When I was in China I drank their swill (about a quarter a can) from the local markets. But you ended up drinking them warm, which I got used to. China basically sucked in the booze department. Israel had their two beers which were pretty decent. Oddly, I was sitting in a hotel lobby drinking a Macabbe Israeli beer and I spotted this Israeli guy sitting across from me. He spoke a little English and he said he was a businessman just staying the night. He asked how I liked their beer and I said they were just fine. He laughed and looked around the room. He then reached into his bag and showed me a six pack of Bud. Bud? He said he loved it when he was in the states and only drinks this now.

I should have brought along a can of chew and gave it to him so he could really feel like an American.

Rip City

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:18 pm

Loves me some Hammerhead. I think I even own some Hammerhead gear, somewhere.

But in the last coupla years or so, McMenny's switched up their yeasts(I believe they bred their own proprietary yeasts, actually), and something about the yeasts(I'm guessing) in "new" HH gives to me the poo, if I drink too much of it. But dammit, if I'm playing 17 holes at the pitch-and-putt(one hole got waxed for the amphitheater, but rumor has it they're building ten more, since they purchased the jail next door), I'm going to toss back some Hammers, runny shits be damned.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:36 pm

I'm sure if I got my grimy paws on some PA methamphetamine, it would pale in comparison to that of the U&L. I'd like my chances if I had to do a piss test the next day, though.

--PSUFAN, from the land of Microwave Penis

YD · Post by YD » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:37 pm

Hammerhead is my current fav in town here

then Mirror Pond

then BBC's Elk Lake IPA (hoppier'n shit)

all beer gives me poo btw. I deal

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:48 pm

PSUFAN wrote:I'm sure if I got my grimy paws on some PA methamphetamine, it would pale in comparison to that of the U&L.

I think it's all mexican brown dope these days. They really went scorched earth trying to cut off the local manufacture(bringing Estacada's economy to a screeching halt). Can't buy any efedrin or psuedoefedrin products OTC, and many bars are even hesitant to pass out free matches anymore, since free red phosphorus is too much for the tweekers to resist.

Sounds good on paper, but all it's done is effectively greatly increased mexican organized crime, while doing little-to-nothing to get the tweekers to stop tweeking. And it's quite possible the price incease has increased property crimes...way to go, Governor Douchebag.

One of these days, the tweekers will get crafty, and start growing ma huang on public lands, which I believe is a temperate plant, and will therefore grow like a weed here(like poppies do).

If I wasn't such a law-abiding citizen, I'd probably get that ball rolling, and get rich. Not even sure if there's a law against it. If there is, might take the FuBI quite a while to figure it out, what with their track record on matters requiring intelligence and stuff.

Hobbes · Post by **Hobbes** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:35 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Drank some Jubelales last night.

*bump*

Dins, I hope you get something good in your stocking this year. A new liquor store opened up about 10 minutes from my house. The largest in Colorado. I went up there this weekend to check it out and asked if they had any thing from Deschutes, and found out that my choices were Black Butte, Mirror Pond and......Jubelale. I bought 2 cases on the spot. That was some good shit. I'll be going back there to clean out their stock of Jubelale before Christmas, I'm sure.

Merry Christmas, you know-it-all bastard. :laff:

SaladTosser · Post by **SaladTosser** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:38 pm

I'll sum up my take on this entire tread;

If you pay more than $9.99 for a 30-pack, you're an idiot.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:44 pm

tosser, I get cheap beer drinkers. I have killed more than my fair share of beast cases, and I do agree that if you pay the extra money for coormiller busch mass produced shit, you are an iodot, but, if you go ahead and spend even more for some quality suds, it is money well spent.

Just make sure it is 100% wheat free or, apparently, you like the caaaahk, or so says dins, official know it all of everything in the universe 'cept recent sitcoms.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:46 pm

I'll disagree.

$25-$30 for a reasonably good case of beer - no problem.

Last week I paid $18 for a 6 pack of Mad Elf. I thought twice about it, but it was well worth it.

I recently paid $48 for a case of Unibroue Maudite. Worth every stinking penny, I might add.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:51 pm

3 bucks a bottle? That shit better be real good. I can't imagine it being much better than something in the buck fitty a bottle range.

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:51 pm

SaladTosser wrote:I'll sum up my take on this entire tread;

If you pay more than $9.99 for a 30-pack, you're an idiot.

Eh,I dont know. After reading this thread I went out and bought the Sam Adams and then the JUbalae.Beats the shit out of the Keystone Light I usually down. Downright tasty I say.

Of course this is coming from a guy that owns the detested Four Non Blondes tape discussed in the other thread.Its cataloged right below the fine works from Enuff-Z-Nuff.

Might have to have an Oregon Beer tonight to toast those frozen dudes.

SaladTosser · Post by **SaladTosser** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:57 pm

I just don't get it.

First of all, I've documented that I used to average over one 30-pack per day. To drink anything other than Milwaukee's Best Light or Natural Light made no sense for two reasons; 1. Sheer cost. 2. After 8 - 10, what's the fucking difference. Also, just my opinion, but it sounds awfully fucking gay to talk about the "wonderful Summer Pale Wheat Blueberry Ale" that you just drank. When it comes to stereotyping this type of beer drinker, I picture a few guys going to one of those trendy fucking micro brew bars and each drinking 2, maybe 3, of these faggoty beers and then going home. Conversely, I want to go to a sports bar, already smashed, and then drink another dozen 99 cent drafts until I get kicked out for taking off my shirt.

Different strokes, I guess.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:57 pm

smackaholic wrote:3 bucks a bottle? That shit better be real good. I can't imagine it being much better than something in the buck fitty a bottle range.

It was real good. These days, most bars are going to charge at least 3-4 bucks a bottle. I was at a bar where Mad Elf was $9 for a 12oz. draft.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:58 pm

Currently working on a 12-er of this:

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:12 pm

SaladTosser wrote:I just don't get it.

First of all, I've documented that I used to average over one 30-pack per day. To drink anything other than Milwaukee's Best Light or Natural Light made no sense for two reasons; 1. Sheer cost. 2. After 8 - 10, what's the fucking difference. Also, just my opinion, but it sounds awfully fucking gay to talk about the "wonderful Summer Pale Wheat Blueberry Ale" that you just drank. When it comes to stereotyping this type of beer drinker, I picture a few guys going to one of those trendy fucking micro brew bars and each drinking 2, maybe 3, of these faggoty beers and then going home. Conversely, I want to go to a sports bar, already smashed, and then drink another dozen 99 cent drafts until I get kicked out for taking off my shirt.

Different strokes, I guess.

Theres no way your more then about 28 years old. That heavy, heavy drinking gets old no? All of a sudden it will hit you that drinking 4-6 beers is just as enjoyable as 12-20.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:13 pm

PSUFAN wrote:
smackaholic wrote:3 bucks a bottle? That shit better be real good. I can't imagine it being much better than something in the buck fitty a bottle range.
It was real good. These days, most bars are going to charge at least 3-4 bucks a bottle. I was at a bar where Mad Elf was $9 for a 12oz. draft.

paying three bucks for a quality beer in a restraunt/bar is acceptable. But in my living room?

And rack tossers take. if the sole purpose of drinking beer is to get drunk, shirtless and maybe oven arrested, you don't need to be doing it on something with anything that has fruit or spices in it. My choice for this is natti ice. Most cost effective drunk going, imho.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:16 pm

if the sole purpose of drinking beer is to get drunk, shirtless and maybe oven arrested

Understood. In my youth, that was also often the goal, and inebriates were chosen for their efficiency, rather than their quality.

Busch Pounders went $3 a six in my days of ribaldry.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:32 pm

PSUFAN wrote:
if the sole purpose of drinking beer is to get drunk, shirtless and maybe oven arrested
Understood. In my youth, that was also often the goal, and inebriates were chosen for their efficiency, rather than their quality.

Busch Pounders went $3 a six in my days of ribaldry.

even in my teenage shirtless binge drinking days busch was undrinkable. this coming from a guy who could and did choke down cases of schaefer long necks (4.99 case).

Something tells me that last sentence is gonna get an edit or three.