Chiefs....Bwahahahah

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:40 am

you just got colonoscipied.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:37 am

It's the drugs.
They were administered a prophylactic dose of LT to help them relax.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:57 am

What do you guys think of that punt call. I know it was the correct call according to the rule book but I don't really agree with the rule. If you can't correctly execute a punt I don't think you should get the ball back.

To clarify, if SD had recovered the ball beyond the 1st down marker maybe it could be considered a 1st and 10 for SD. However there was no change of posession so I don't know why it isn't considered to be a loose ball/fumble.

Thoughts?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:04 am

At first it logically didn't seem like the Bolts should be able to recover with a first down, hence the colonoscopy reference.

But if you really think about it, the Chiefs player who touched the ball beyond the LOS is equivalent in every way to a receiver muffing the kick. Change of posession, live ball. No other way to fairly interpret it.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:06 am

I see your points but realistically it didn't even cross the line of scrimage w/o being touched by KC. I think it should go as a blocked kick and the best the SD could do would be to down the ball. Correct me if I am wrong here but when a FG or XP is blocked, the offense can't recover it and advance it, correct? I guess the FG would have to be on 3rd down or something like that but the offense can't pick up a blocked XP and run it in can they?

I just think this is a stupid rule that benefits the kicking team all too often. While it was the correct call it doesn't make any sense.

By the way here, I am not a KC fan at all, just trying to understand.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:20 am

Sky wrote:I see your points but realistically it didn't even cross the line of scrimage w/o being touched by KC.

Not sure exactly what you mean by this.

Here is what happened:

Ball was blocked by KC.
Ball passed LOS.
Ball is touched but not recovered by another KC player past the LOS. At that point it becomes a free ball.
Ball is recovered by SD. SD ball.

If the ball had not been touched by the second KC player SD would not have been able to recover and regain posession, and it would have been downed when they touched it. Look at it this way. What if the ball had been barely touched by the first KC player and travelled, say, 30 yards downfield where the KC kick returner tries to catch it but drops the ball. Shouldn't the kicking team then be allowed to recover?

Different situation you may say, but it's exactly the same in every respect except for the distance the ball travelled. So where do you draw the line? It might be more fair if a rule said it has to pass the first down distance, but apparently that's not the way it's written. What if it's 4th down and 30 to go and the situation I posited happens. Ball is barely touched by the rusher, ball is dropped by the kick returner 29 yards downfield. Ball is recovered by kicking team. Shouldn't the kicking team get posession? When you make a rule it has to apply in every situation that it technically covers. Sometimes weird things happen that make a rule seem unfair, but you have to consider other situations that would also change if the rule is changed.

Like I said before, it did seem at first like KC should have gotten the ball. But I think that this is a lot more clear cut than the forward pass or fumble play that the Bolts lucked out on against the Raiders a couple of weeks ago. Luckily for the Chargers, when things are going your way you seem to get the breaks. Or maybe vice versa.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:18 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Then the rule in college and the NFL is different. Not sure why they would be, but I accept that.

Many college/pro rules are different. I could name 10 easy ones off the top of my head...

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:06 am

mvscal wrote:My thought is that you don't know much about football.

It was a muff. It doesn't matter if it goes four feet or forty yards past the LOS. Once it passes the LOS and is touched by the receiving team, it is a live ball.

Hey fucko, it wasn't a muffed punt, it was a blocked punt. KC touched the ball before it ever crossed the LOS so it isn't like a really really short kick.

My point is this, SD failed to properly execute a punt. Why should they have equal opportunity to recover the ball. Yes a KC lineman tried to pick it up but it could have just as well hit off his back or helmet unintentionally. Why does SD deserve the same chance to recover the ball when they couldn't even get the punt off.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:05 am

Dude is either not reading, not thinking or just a dumbfuck.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:54 am

mvscal wrote: That makes it a muff.

muff (mŭf) pronunciation

v., muffed, muff·ing, muffs.

v.tr.

1. To perform or handle clumsily; bungle. See synonyms at botch.
2. Sports. To fail to make (a catch).

v.intr.

To perform an act clumsily.
n.

1. A clumsy or bungled action.
2. Sports. A failure to make a catch.

Explain that to me again. How does a block become a muff?

So if I miss a FG because my holder mishandles the snap, what would you call that? A block?

I don't think it should be a free ball. I guess I just don't agree with the idea that my team blocks a punt, it ricochets off our lineman's helmet and now the kicking team can recover the ball. What benefit comes from this?

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:02 am

mvscal wrote:Blocked punts do not cross the line of scrimmage, you stupid fuck.

Give it up. It isn't going to get any better for you.

Hmm, is that why the NFL scored it as a block?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:48 am

Sky wrote:
I don't think it should be a free ball. I guess I just don't agree with the idea that my team blocks a punt, it ricochets off our lineman's helmet and now the kicking team can recover the ball. What benefit comes from this?

Unfortunately, there's a difference between what you "think it should be" and what the rules say. The officials are actually paid to call the game by the rules and not by what you "think it should be".

The sooner you come to terms with these facts of life, the happier you will be as you grow into adulthood.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:02 am

They got the call right. Chief fan would be in here raisng hell otherwise.

Hell of 4 yard punt, considering the result of the next play.