Iverson traded

Quad McWheels · Post by **Quad McWheels** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:28 pm

Denver Noggets.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:10 pm

Does he get suspended by proxy?

The Sixers got ripped off in the deal unless the one of the first rounders ends up in the lottery. The Nuggets will be nice when Carmelo's suspension ends.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:03 am

Shoalzie wrote:Does he get suspended by proxy?

The Sixers got ripped off in the deal

Really? How do you figure?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:10 am

Obviously the nugget GM didn't get my memo about cornrow dude. Now he got himself a pair of corn rowed mvscal book ends. Better ad a few hundred thou to the team fine budget.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:37 am

I thought for sure that Minney would find a way to land him.

Cue Kevin Garnett whining like a vag now to be traded to the Lakers in 3.......2.........1..........

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:48 am

Shoalzie wrote:Does he get suspended by proxy?

The Sixers got ripped off in the deal unless the one of the first rounders ends up in the lottery. The Nuggets will be nice when Carmelo's suspension ends.

Not really. AI does not play well with others... only so many balls to go around, so he and Carmelo will have issues over who is getting the ball more. Sixers got a legitmate starter that can produce for them now... and they got a couple more picks in a very deep draft next year. I'm pulling for this guy to end up in Philly -

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:19 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
Raydah James wrote:I thought for sure that Minney would find a way to land him.

Cue Kevin Garnett whining like a vag now to be traded to the Lakers in 3.......2.........1..........
And you'd really hate that BECAUSE.......????

Because Lamar Odom is a excellent fit in the triangle offense, plays the scottie pippen role to a tee, and is a close friend of Kobe. Thier chemistry is nothing short of awesome on the fucking court.

Last thing any Laker fan wants to see is Odom moved (Minny has stated that he would have to be included in the deal-thats what held it up last year)

Phil has nearly all the pieces in place toward building another 90's bulls-like team. No way us lakerfans want to see that fucked with.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:07 am

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:This JUST in: KG is TEN TIMES the baller L. Odom ever THOUGHT of being. Fuck friendship BTW- Kobe and Shaq proved they don't have to be best buddies to reel in championship hardware.

Lamar Odom 2006 Stats:

PPG: 17.5
APG: 4.9
MPG: 37.9
RPG: 8.7
FG%: .474

Kevin Garnett 2006 Stats:

PPG: 21.7
APG: 3.8
MPG: 38.3
RPG: 11.9
FG%: .500

Ten times better?

Not a fucking chance.

Factor in that we're comparing the #2 option of the Lakers to the #1 option of Wolves, and KG's numbers look that much less impressive.

KG would have to get aquainted with the triangle (which usually takes a year or so), and has not only shown he isnt a pressure player, he has shown he wants nothing to do with the ball in the last few minutes.

Odom is quite the opposite. Dude can do so much on the court that one cant help but throw down the 'Scottie' label on him, including PJax. He routinely brings the ball upcourt, has handles like a motherfucker, and can knock down the 3 often. His defensive presence is outstanding as well (Riles considered him one the better defenders in the league)

Big ticket is a great player-but i'll take the current lineup as is, thank you.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:16 am

I didn't realize that Lamar Odom and Oscar Robertson were one and the same.

Dyin' over here.

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:17 am

Raydah James wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:This JUST in: KG is TEN TIMES the baller L. Odom ever THOUGHT of being. Fuck friendship BTW- Kobe and Shaq proved they don't have to be best buddies to reel in championship hardware.
Lamar Odom 2006 Stats:

PPG: 17.5
APG: 4.9
MPG: 37.9
RPG: 8.7
FG%: .474

Kevin Garnett 2006 Stats:

PPG: 21.7
APG: 3.8
MPG: 38.3
RPG: 11.9
FG%: .500

Ten times better?

Not a fucking chance.

Factor in that we're comparing the #2 option of the Lakers to the #1 option of Wolves, and KG's numbers look that much less impressive.

KG would have to get aquainted with the triangle (which usually takes a year or so), and has not only shown he isnt a pressure player, he has shown he wants nothing to do with the ball in the last few minutes.

Odom is quite the opposite. Dude can do so much on the court that one cant help but throw down the 'Scottie' label on him, including PJax. He routinely brings the ball upcourt, has handles like a motherfucker, and can knock down the 3 often. His defensive presence is outstanding as well (Riles considered him one the better defenders in the league)

Big ticket is a great player-but i'll take the current lineup as is, thank you.

You, and only you, would consider Lamar Odom to be comparable to Kevin Garnett. They don't even play in the same universe. Sorry, but it's true.

Feel free to spin some fucking stats to placate your idiotic argument. No one is buying it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:22 am

I dunno...when it comes to being complete fucking idiots, they're close...although Kevin "I should be getting the other players' and coaches salaries too, since I'm the only one who does anything" Garnett has at least managed to keep himself in the league continuously...there is that.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:28 am

Dinsdale wrote:I didn't realize that Lamar Odom and Oscar Robertson were one and the same.

Dyin' over here.

Please excuse Blazertard, as they got the older 'scottie' that was abused like a rented mule whenever Kobe and co. came to thier backyard to school them on how championship players throw it down.

When PJax related Odom to Pip, he meant the one he coached that didnt get his ass tapped weekly by the rest of the fucking league.

Even though Odom is out for a month, the team is in a very good position to do damage this season and beyond.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:32 am

Rack Fu wrote:
Raydah James wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:This JUST in: KG is TEN TIMES the baller L. Odom ever THOUGHT of being. Fuck friendship BTW- Kobe and Shaq proved they don't have to be best buddies to reel in championship hardware.
Lamar Odom 2006 Stats:

PPG: 17.5
APG: 4.9
MPG: 37.9
RPG: 8.7
FG%: .474

Kevin Garnett 2006 Stats:

PPG: 21.7
APG: 3.8
MPG: 38.3
RPG: 11.9
FG%: .500

Ten times better?

Not a fucking chance.

Factor in that we're comparing the #2 option of the Lakers to the #1 option of Wolves, and KG's numbers look that much less impressive.

KG would have to get aquainted with the triangle (which usually takes a year or so), and has not only shown he isnt a pressure player, he has shown he wants nothing to do with the ball in the last few minutes.

Odom is quite the opposite. Dude can do so much on the court that one cant help but throw down the 'Scottie' label on him, including PJax. He routinely brings the ball upcourt, has handles like a motherfucker, and can knock down the 3 often. His defensive presence is outstanding as well (Riles considered him one the better defenders in the league)

Big ticket is a great player-but i'll take the current lineup as is, thank you.
You, and only you, would consider Lamar Odom to be comparable to Kevin Garnett. They don't even play in the same universe. Sorry, but it's true.

Feel free to spin some fucking stats to placate your idiotic argument. No one is buying it.

Who's spinning stats, dumbfuck?

Show me where the numbers lie, old man.

Until you can, shut your fucking cock polishers bitch.

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:44 am

Raydah James wrote:
Rack Fu wrote:
Raydah James wrote: Lamar Odom 2006 Stats:

PPG: 17.5
APG: 4.9
MPG: 37.9
RPG: 8.7
FG%: .474

Kevin Garnett 2006 Stats:

PPG: 21.7
APG: 3.8
MPG: 38.3
RPG: 11.9
FG%: .500

Ten times better?

Not a fucking chance.

Factor in that we're comparing the #2 option of the Lakers to the #1 option of Wolves, and KG's numbers look that much less impressive.

KG would have to get aquainted with the triangle (which usually takes a year or so), and has not only shown he isnt a pressure player, he has shown he wants nothing to do with the ball in the last few minutes.

Odom is quite the opposite. Dude can do so much on the court that one cant help but throw down the 'Scottie' label on him, including PJax. He routinely brings the ball upcourt, has handles like a motherfucker, and can knock down the 3 often. His defensive presence is outstanding as well (Riles considered him one the better defenders in the league)

Big ticket is a great player-but i'll take the current lineup as is, thank you.
You, and only you, would consider Lamar Odom to be comparable to Kevin Garnett. They don't even play in the same universe. Sorry, but it's true.

Feel free to spin some fucking stats to placate your idiotic argument. No one is buying it.

Who's spinning stats, dumbfuck?

Show me where the numbers lie, old man.

Until you can, shut your fucking cock polishers bitch.

What next, Paul Mitchell? A diatribe about how Jermaine Dye would be a better fit for the White Sox than Albert Pujols just because Dye had one season where his stats where in the same "ballpark" as Pujols' stats.

Garnett is a first ballot HoF player (and still playing like one). Odom will have to pay admission to get into the HoF just like I would. Decent career, good player but he couldn't hold KG's jock on his best day.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:45 am

Dinsdale wrote:I dunno...when it comes to being complete fucking idiots,

Cant......Stop.......Laughing.......

Sincerely,

Rashweed, Damon, Randolph, Bonzi, Q Woods, Patterson, ect. ect. ect.

Jailblazer dumbfuck talking about other teams' players being complete fucking idiots is the absolute height of hilarity.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:53 am

Is KG a great player? Most definitely.

Phil said that his unwillingness to include Odom in a deal last year cost him getting KG...........

That tells me phil obviously see's some sort of great value in the type of player he is.

I mean, Are you really stupid enough to think that you're a smarter basketball mind than a 9 time champion coach? There's a fucking reason he didnt pull the trigger on it last year.

Rack Fu wrote:
What next, Paul Mitchell? A diatribe about how Jermaine Dye would be a better fit for the White Sox than Albert Pujols just because Dye had one season where his stats where in the same "ballpark" as Pujols' stats.

What kind of dipshit would relate a team sport like B-Ball to a much more individualistic sport like Baseball?

Oh wait............

Ever get tired of being a fucking idiot?

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:19 am

Did Tawanna tell you that??

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:47 am

Raydah James wrote:Is KG a great player? Most definitely.

Phil said that his unwillingness to include Odom in a deal last year cost him getting KG...........

That tells me phil obviously see's some sort of great value in the type of player he is.

I mean, Are you really stupid enough to think that you're a smarter basketball mind than a 9 time champion coach? There's a fucking reason he didnt pull the trigger on it last year.

Rack Fu wrote:
What next, Paul Mitchell? A diatribe about how Jermaine Dye would be a better fit for the White Sox than Albert Pujols just because Dye had one season where his stats where in the same "ballpark" as Pujols' stats.

What kind of dipshit would relate a team sport like B-Ball to a much more individualistic sport like Baseball?

Oh wait............

Ever get tired of being a fucking idiot?

Fine, feel free to find any decent athlete in any "team" sport that you'd like that has two-thirds the stats of a superstar player. Would that make it easier to comprehend for you, dolt?

All KG has ever done is complile MVP awards, All-NBA honors, All-Defensive team honors & close to ten All-Star game appearances. I can see how Lamar Odom is every bit as valuable. After all, his resume supports your moronic argument, right?

Trust me, if Phil had a legit shot at getting KG, he'd send Odom packing so fast that it might spin the world in the opposite direction and cause us to go back in time. Phil may have made that statement but that was just his politically correct way of saying that any negotiations with the T-Wolves went south and I'm gonna give some love to my player. KG for Odom is a no-brainer for anyone. A 9 time champion coach is well aware of that.

Myopic jackass.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:40 am

Raydah James wrote:Cant......Stop.......Laughing.......

Me either...since this "Jailblazer dumbfuck"* knows who the Lakers GM is, and apparently Lakerfan doesn't.

"Phil wouldn't make the deal blah blah blah..."

Uhm...coaches devise gameplans and coach players. If they're keeping track of who makes how much, they're not doing their job right.

"Minny has stated that he would have to be included in the deal-thats what held it up last year."

Tears, Jerry. Tears.

Yeah, buddy -- the Timberwolves were going to part with their franchise player for Cryin Grant (might have been tough to trade Cryin last season, eh?)and Radmanovic. Or Radmanovic, Kwame, Mihm, and McKie(a Blazer draft pick from way back when, and Clyde's Boy)...because the Wolves would have been allllll over that, right?

Laughing quite hard at you.

Yeah, because the Lakers saved the Wolves life back in 'Nam, right?

"Phil wouldn't make the deal because it included Lamar"...can't...stop...laughing.

Uhm...who else on the Laker roster were you planning on trading for KG, dumbfuck?

Stop trying to play armchair GM...since we all know that Phil Jackson is the Lakers GM, not you.

* -- A "Jailblazers" reference in the thread about Lamar Odom is pretty much priceless

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:04 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Raydah James wrote:Cant......Stop.......Laughing.......

Me either...since this "Jailblazer dumbfuck"* knows who the Lakers GM is, and apparently Lakerfan doesn't.

"Phil wouldn't make the deal blah blah blah..."

Yeah, buddy -- the Timberwolves were going to part with their franchise player for Cryin Grant (might have been tough to trade Cryin last season, eh?)and Radmanovic.
Laughing quite hard at you.

Stick to what you know best-collecting bail to spring out the latest dipshit player, sucking off the youngins the failblazers draft in hopes of them becoming anything more than a bust, and being the Lakers perrenial bitch.

'Cause as it stands, im enjoy a hearty laugh at the expense of your jurrassic ass right now.

Lets start with the obvious: Do you really think Jackson has no say in who gets moved/signed and reports to Mitch?

buwahaha.

Yeah, cause we all know how many championship squads have been put together due to mitch's deft hand.

Phil has the final fucking say in who comes and goes-period.

Yeah, buddy -- the Timberwolves were going to part with their franchise player for Cryin Grant (might have been tough to trade Cryin last season, eh?)and Radmanovic.

You've got this whole "dumbfuck" thing on lockdown, huh?

Rad was a fucking Clipper last season, tard.

And it was the unwillingness to part with Bynum and Odom that killed the deal. Phil stated it in the paper last year.

I'd tell you to back away from the fucking keyboard at this point, but it'd take away the best laugh i've had in awhile.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:11 pm

Raydah James wrote:And it was the unwillingness to part with Bynum and Odom that killed the deal. Phil stated it in the paper last year.

Dude...you're absolutely killin' me over here.

You're making it pretty fucking obvious that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

And I'm not even going to bring up why, since I'm having an awfully good laugh watching you try and go down this road.

But I will tell you this -- just shutting the fuck up and walking away would probably be your best bet to mitigate this one.

Yeah, buddy -- you were going to trade Bynum and Lamar for KG....BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Just...stop.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:24 pm

Contenders in the West, if the Wolves could stomach that, would be lining up as well: Phoenix, Dallas and certainly others. The Lakers' interest, furthermore, is no secret, with Kobe Bryant and Garnett seemingly an ideal tag team given KG's well-chronicled unselfishness … and Garnett maintaining an offseason residence in Malibu … and two tantalizing big men (Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum) for the Wolves to go after

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime ... -061118-19

Almost any deal for Garnett would have to include Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum. Based on Bynum's play earlier in the season and his long time horizon (he's only 19), he won't be going anywhere, probably for a long while.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-la ... ome-sports

Yep, you've definitely got the 'dumbfuck' thing on lockdown.

You can type KG for Odom and Bynum in google and pull up a ton of articles/blogs on it. Among them are ESPN, LA times, and Minnessota's paper.

Heres an idea: Try knowing what the fuck you're talking about before hitting submit, bitch.

jtr · Post by **jtr** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:29 pm

chris mullin must be crying into his wheaties this morning.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:57 pm

Newsflash -- the papers can spew all the bullshit they like, just as Phil Jackson routinely does.

They also have very strict rules about trades in the NBA.

Granted, neither you nor I are fully familiar with them (in the peak of thew Nitwit era, the Blazers had three lawyers on staff, just to reasearch trades), but I'm reasonably certain that a trade of Odom at $11.4 mil and Bynum at $1.9 mil would bring a response of "uhm, read the rules lately, dumbass?" from the League Office. $13.3 X 1.25 < 18...and if my understanding of these ultra-complicated rules is correct, the Lakers wouldn't qualify for the exemption to make it happen, and none of the involved players' salaries are anywhere near close enough to make it a multi-tiered deal.

And this season, that deal is even less plausable, since Garnett's salary went up $2 mil more over last year.

Maybe that's why Kumchick is the GM, and not Phil Doucheson.

I'd say a Zach Randolph and Arius Miles(who would eventually get cut) for KG deal is more likely to happen than anything the Lakers could come up with. And without Odom's salary(or Kobe's, but that ain't happening) in the deal, if the Lakers did trade for KG, they'd have a roster of about 4 players, since only two guys on the entire Lakers roster(not counting Cryin Grant, who I believe they're still paying...but Blazerfan feels your pain) make any sort of money whatsoever(by NBA standards).

Sure makes for good sensationalized news stories and compelling water coller discussion though, eh?