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Terry in Crapchester wrote:Upon further review . . .
Terry in Crapchester wrote:I can understand that as a fan you'd like to see more California products play college ball in state, but there's no realistic way to accomplish that.
If the California legislature sees that as a problem, they could do something about it. After all, IIRC, Cal State-Fullerton, Cal State-Long Beach and Pacific all had 1-A programs within the past 10-15 years, and Pacific is the only one of those that might be a private school. Having said that, the California legislature probably has more important things to worry about.
title ix isnt something that the state can change
Maybe I'm missing something here. How did Title IX require these schools to deemphasize football?

IIRC, Title IX was around a long time before these schools dropped out of 1-A.
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Fullerton and Long Beach both have women making up over 60% of their student body. Girls dont have a sport that takes 85 scholarships. Pacific is a private school with more than 50% of their students being female.
Title ix has killed off more California based football programs than anything else.
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Although it's asinine, I like SocalBadEducation's plan -- since fair id fair, and he really seems to be picking on Oregon here...Portland Interscholastic League sports are now funded by private individuals(Damon Stoudamire and Terrell Brandon being big contributors) and entities, as is mega-powerhouse Jesuit, by SoCal's logic, any recruits from any of those schools shouldn't count anything against Oregon's scholarship allotment(unless he thinks it should be a one-way street that only benefitd california schools).


Me rikey this plan very much. U of O could have about 200 redshirts, and just pick out the best of the bunch for next year's roster.

Yup, sounds perfectly "fair" to me. Bring it on. I'm tired of watching all the best local talent leave the state because Bellottti has such a hardon for trumping USC and UCLA in their own recruiting zone.
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SoCalTrjn wrote:Fullerton and Long Beach both have women making up over 60% of their student body.
Is that a new development, or was Title IX amended at a later date to require athletic scholarships to match the male-female ratio of the student body?

As a sidenote, when I was at ND, student body was about 75% male. I remember receiving a survey through the Alumni Association shortly after graduating. The survey was unremarkable except in one respect -- the final question asked for suggestions on how to make Notre Dame better. The most popular answer, by an overwhelming margin, was to make the student body closer to 50/50. The Administration actually listened to us (for once), and lo and behold, the combined student body ratio at Notre Dame and St. Mary's (a small all-girl college supposedly across the lake, but actually across the highway, from ND) is now 50/50.

Put our football program in jeopardy by suggesting that, did we?
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Actually, I found something on the demise of Fullerton's program:

http://calstatefullerton.scout.com/2/567516.html
A new stadium was built for the Titan football team as the program died in 1992, so what was the cause for the team's demise?

CSUF Associate Athletics Director of Media Relations Mel Franks says it was a lack of interest that eventually caused football to disappear at the Cal State Fullerton campus.

In the January of 1991 CSUF announced they were facing a budget crisis and that money would be tight for the college. CSUF left it up to the fans on whether or not they would want to keep the program afloat.

There was no fan response or influx of donation money for the program, so the college had to make a choice whether to allocate the little funds they had for classrooms and students or for the football program.
It's obvious they chose the former.

CSUF's football program started in 1970.

For players and fans, it might have been a case of so young, so soon for the football program to come and go at Fullerton.

"The reality of it is [CSUF] doesn't have the infrastructure to support a football team," CSUF Associate Athletics Director of Marketing Steve DiTolla said. "To play at a Division 1 level you need 30,000 seats…we would need 85 scholarships and 10 full-time coaches on staff, plus money for equipment. We don't have the means to support that."
No mention of Title IX. Football obviously is an expensive sport to maintain (sin, Marcus). No getting around that, and Title IX doesn't have anything to do with it.
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