RACK Boise State

420 · Post by **420** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:55 pm

My bad.

This has somehow turned into a College Basketball thread.

It's kinda like looking at the development of a cocoon, then realizing that it's opening, and saying to yourself... that's not a caterpillar.

Carry on.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:56 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote:They should have been able to play their way in through a playoff.
Why, so they can cheat their way through that, too?

At least in a playoff, they would be exposed for the powderpuffs they are, since I doubt after the physical beating the larger OU team put on them, they'd be in any shape to take the field against another real team.

The "larger" OU team?

Tears Jerry. Tears.

Look at the fucking rosters. The two team's interior linemen are damn near the same size. On defense, OU is 8 lbs heavier per man and on offense BSU is 6 lbs heavier per man. Hardly a physical mismatch.

420 · Post by **420** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:58 pm

Felix wrote:
420 wrote: Now take a look at what Cal did to Texas A&M...

If Cal played Boise State, they would have pulled the 1st team after the 1st quarter, because that's how Tedford rolls.

At halftime... Tedford would have sent the 1st and 2nd teams back to the hotel rooms, so they could watch the 2nd half beat down by the 3rd and 4th teams on TV.
that's it-the post that's convinced me.....

Cal should be the national Champions......

Well, if it's a choice between Cal and Boise State???

I'm going to have to agree with you.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:06 pm

BSmack wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote:They should have been able to play their way in through a playoff.
Why, so they can cheat their way through that, too?

At least in a playoff, they would be exposed for the powderpuffs they are, since I doubt after the physical beating the larger OU team put on them, they'd be in any shape to take the field against another real team.
The "larger" OU team?

Tears Jerry. Tears.

Look at the fucking rosters. The two team's interior linemen are damn near the same size. On defense, OU is 8 lbs heavier per man and on offense BSU is 6 lbs heavier per man. Hardly a physical mismatch.

Don't confuse Dins with facts. They only serve to screw up his brilliant theories (pronouncements).

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:08 pm

BSmack wrote:The "larger" OU team?

I see you didn't watch the game.

BSU was getting beaten senseless. OU ponied up turnovers, which gave BSU the game. But to say OU wasn't beating the ever loving fuck out of them would be inaccurate.

And I guess I have to spell out things that were implied, for the stupid people -- who played against bigger teams? OU going against Texas, Nebraska, Oregon(BIG team), and the like...or BSU, who played Darby, Montana City College 10 times?

Think hard now.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:19 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
BSU was getting beaten senseless. OU ponied up turnovers, which gave BSU the game. But to say OU wasn't beating the ever loving fuck out of them would be inaccurate.

I have to ask....did you watch the game.....because BSU wasn't getting beaten.....

they created those two turnovers you reference, the fumble was stripped from Thompson's hand and the interception for a touchdown was on a pass tipped at the line.....

Now on the other hand, at 28-10, OU got the most fortunate break of the game when the punt bounced off the BSU players foot....no fault of his, but that's just one of the breaks...but OU didn't create that turnover, it was handed to them.....

If BSU fields that punt cleanly, we're not having a discussion about the game being one of the best ever.....BSU runs another 5 to 6 minutes off the clock....even if they don't score, they pin OU deep in their own territory forcing them to drive the length of the field....they would have never been able to stage that remarkable comeback because they wouldn't have had time.....

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:23 pm

Really, Dins, you ought to check your facts before making a total idiot of yourself.

The starting interior O lines for Texas, Nebraska and Oregon average 302, 305, 316 (BIG team) while BSU averages 306 even with that punkazz 5'11" 288 lb center.

Sort of fucks up your know-it-all bullshit, doesn't it?

You can easily check any team yourself.

http://boisestate.rivals.com/cdepthtext ... am=BOISEST

420 · Post by **420** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:30 pm

Mikey wrote:Really, Dins, you ought to check your facts before making a total idiot of yourself.

The starting interior O lines for Texas, Nebraska and Oregon average 302, 305, 316 (BIG team) while BSU averages 306 even with that punkazz 5'11" 288 lb center.

Sort of fucks up your know-it-all bullshit, doesn't it?

You can easily check it yourself.

http://boisestate.rivals.com/cdepthtext ... am=BOISEST

Leave it to a furd... to leave out LB's and DB's. God knows they never come up on running plays or deliver blows on passing plays.

Well, maybe on the farm they don't.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:34 pm

420 wrote:
Mikey wrote:Really, Dins, you ought to check your facts before making a total idiot of yourself.

The starting interior O lines for Texas, Nebraska and Oregon average 302, 305, 316 (BIG team) while BSU averages 306 even with that punkazz 5'11" 288 lb center.

Sort of fucks up your know-it-all bullshit, doesn't it?

You can easily check it yourself.

http://boisestate.rivals.com/cdepthtext ... am=BOISEST
Leave it to a furd... to leave out LB's and DB's. God knows they never come up on running plays or deliver blows on passing plays.

Well, maybe on the farm they don't.

Look up the numbers yourself. I'm sure your edition of Windchime Navigator supports web searches.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:36 pm

420 wrote:
Mikey wrote:Really, Dins, you ought to check your facts before making a total idiot of yourself.

The starting interior O lines for Texas, Nebraska and Oregon average 302, 305, 316 (BIG team) while BSU averages 306 even with that punkazz 5'11" 288 lb center.

Sort of fucks up your know-it-all bullshit, doesn't it?

You can easily check it yourself.

http://boisestate.rivals.com/cdepthtext ... am=BOISEST
Leave it to a furd... to leave out LB's and DB's. God knows they never come up on running plays or deliver blows on passing plays.

Well, maybe on the farm they don't.

Dumbfuck. The argument was about "big" vs. "not big" teams, and Dins was bullshiting about how small BSU's O line was.
You do read, right?
If you're interested in comparing the DBs and LBs them be my guest. The numbers are all there behind that link.
I'll be interested to see what you come up with, but based on your history of never coming up with anything, I won't hold my breath.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:38 pm

Mikey wrote:Really, Dins, you ought to check your facts before making a total idiot of yourself.

I've got to be honest here......

I've never seen anyone so desperate to discredit a win......

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:45 pm

Mikey wrote:Dins was bullshiting about how small BSU's O line was.

Oh, I see Mikey has now gone to the ever-popular "lying to try and get over on Dinsdale" route. Hasn't ever worked for anyone in the past(and I don't think the whole "lying" strategy has worked against anyone else, either).

I believe the only specific position I mentioned was center. If you're arguing that BSU's starter isn't undersized by D1A standards, than you are truly a fucking idiot.

I also mentioned defensive ends weighing in under 230. I don't believe they are starters.

But gee, I don't know where I could ever have gotten the idea that OU was a physically superior team(which they were, even in victory). Wait...maybe it was here --

Felix wrote:
Boise State-OU-without Peterson, I think it would be a pretty decent game until the fourth quarter when OU's physical supeiority would take over.....

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:49 pm

Is the U&L for some reason developing an inferiority complex to a state full of potato farmers, survivalists, white power militias and aging Hells Angels?

...I wonder how long it will take for m2dumb to produce a brilliant analysis comparing the mean, median, mode and rank order of playing weights for defensive backs and linebackers vs. offensive lines for the top 10 teams compared to Boise State.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:54 pm

Additionally, on the absolutely stupid fucking tangent the "must-refute-what-Dins-says-even-if-it-involves-water-being-wet" crowd --

Maybe a story problem will help?

Kinetic energy is half the mass times velocity squared, or some shit like that, right?

High school recruit A weighs 300 pounds, and runs a 4.9 40, while bench-pressing 500 pounds. Recruit B weighs 300 pounds, and runs a 5.9 40, while bench-pressing 390 pounds.

OK, for the big bonus -- which recruit ends up playing at USC, and which recruit ends up at BSU?

Think it over carefully, and show your work.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:09 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Mikey wrote:Dins was bullshiting about how small BSU's O line was.

Oh, I see Mikey has now gone to the ever-popular "lying to try and get over on Dinsdale" route. Hasn't ever worked for anyone in the past(and I don't think the whole "lying" strategy has worked against anyone else, either).

LOL. I really hate to pull the KYOA card, but you are so K'ing YOA

Dinsdale wrote:

Maybe you haven't heard, but the cream of the crop large athletes go to the big name football schools, the also-ran overachievers go to mid-majors. When a team is overmatched by an average of 20+ pounds at the "power positions," there's no way they get through a 9 game conference schedule without physically breaking down.

Remember writing that earlier in this thread? Think...really hard now...or go back a page or 2.

So, genius, show me a team, any team that outweighs BSU by "20+ pounds at the power positiong" (maybe you should get together with mfool and peruse the stats).

I believe the only specific position I mentioned was center. If you're arguing that BSU's starter isn't undersized by D1A standards, than you are truly a fucking idiot.

Go to the site I linked above. Weights of some starting centers:
USC: 280
Oklahoma: 278
Nebraska: 300
Ohio State: 295
Oregon: 299 (BIG team)
Tennessee: 290
Michigan: 297
Notre Dame: 279
Boise State: 288

Is 288 undersized by D1A standards. If you say so.

(Who's the fucking idiot here, idiot?)

I also mentioned defensive ends weighing in under 230. I don't believe they are starters.

So, you're basing your comparison on 2nd and 3rd stringers?
Why didn't you say so in the first place.

BTW, BSU's starting DEs weigh 261 and 244.

Since I've already shown with facts how wrong you are on everything else, I'll leave it up to you to show how that's small "by D1A standards".

But gee, I don't know where I could ever have gotten the idea that OU was a physically superior team(which they were, even in victory). Wait...maybe it was here --

Felix wrote:
Boise State-OU-without Peterson, I think it would be a pretty decent game until the fourth quarter when OU's physical supeiority would take over.....

Aha, so Felix is full of shit....until you want to use his quote to...ummm...attempt...to prove your point.
Brilliant.

420 · Post by **420** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:15 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
High school recruit A weighs 300 pounds, and runs a 4.9 40, while bench-pressing 500 pounds. Recruit B weighs 300 pounds, and runs a 5.9 40, while bench-pressing 390 pounds.

Stop confusing the furd.

He'll start to melt at any moment.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:16 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Additionally, on the absolutely stupid fucking tangent the "must-refute-what-Dins-says-even-if-it-involves-water-being-wet" crowd --

If what you're saying here is that showing Dins to be full of shit is like showing that water is wet, then I'll finally have to agree with you.

In the meantime get out there and find those 40 yard times (not just your speculative bullshite) and actually prove your point instead of deflecting everytime somebody calls you out for your unmitigated puffed up crap.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:17 pm

420 wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
High school recruit A weighs 300 pounds, and runs a 4.9 40, while bench-pressing 500 pounds. Recruit B weighs 300 pounds, and runs a 5.9 40, while bench-pressing 390 pounds.
Stop confusing the furd.

He'll start to melt at any moment.

You got those LB and DB stats yet, fool?
Didn't think so. Why don't you give us a few pics of the Golden Gate Bridge in the meantime to keep us occupied.

Jerkovich · Post by **Jerkovich** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:23 pm

Mikey wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Additionally, on the absolutely stupid fucking tangent the "must-refute-what-Dins-says-even-if-it-involves-water-being-wet" crowd --
If what you're saying here is that showing Dins to be full of shit is like showing that water is wet, then I'll finally have to agree with you.

In the meantime get out there and find those 40 yard times (not just your speculative bullshite) and actually prove your point instead of deflecting everytime somebody calls you out for your unmitigated puffed up crap.

Yikes Mikey, you need to save Zydins the disfranchisement amongst his 'BOYZ'. He'll have to make up some more of his half baked bullshit to get over on you.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:25 pm

Mikey wrote:In the meantime get out there and find those 40 yard times (not just your speculative bullshite) and actually prove your point instead of deflecting everytime somebody calls you out for your unmitigated puffed up crap.

So, does this mean that the athletes going to BSU are equal to those of USC, by your estimation?

That's the only logical conclusion one can find in this crap you're spewing.

You can dance around the point, and try to go off on tangents(since that's your only chance here), but bear in mind, that the road your going down only has one ending -- that you believe BSU's athlete's to be equal to USC.

Good luck with that.

To hell with that whole "5-star" thing...Mikey says they're all the same.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:29 pm

Dinsdale wrote:To hell with that whole "5-star" thing...Mikey says they're all the same.

Riddle me this. Who had "better" recruiting classes over the past 4 years? OU or BSU?

Maybe we should be saying to hell with the "5-star" thing.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:33 pm

I never said that, and you know I didn't. Talk about "liars".

Your whole argument was based on the assumption that BSU was undersized. And I showed you with actual numbers that they definitely are not.

But you obviously can't ever, ever admit that you might have been wrong. Instead you change the comparison.

I'll never argue that BSU's athetes are superior or even equal to those at USC. How would I ever know?
They may be equal. How do you know? How do you compare? You got those 40 times yet?
How much of the difference is in coaching?

Try sticking to the facts, though, and you'll look a lot less the fool. Now go along and play with mtool.

420 · Post by **420** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:40 pm

Mikey wrote:
I'll never argue that BSU's athetes are superior or even equal to those at USC. How would I ever know?

You wouldn't. You're a furd.

Mikey wrote:They may be equal. How do you know? How do you compare?

I did analysis on the previous page, but as a furd it just went over your head.

I think your friends... that like to bang their head's against the wall are looking for you in the Political forum.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:41 pm

Mikey wrote:But you obviously can't ever, ever admit that you might have been wrong.

Really? Would you like me to reset the 5 or more times I've posted "I was wrong," or "mea culpa" in the last week or so?

But no, really -- continue with that "lying to get over on Dinsdale" thing. If you got no game, I guess it's the only weapon in your arsenal.

Those that can, do. Those that can't, follow Dinsdale around making up lies the entire time, thinking that they're somehow "getting over" by doing so.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:45 pm

Dinsdale wrote:

Sorry, man. Really. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings so badly.

If it means that much to you I'll stop following you around and making you look bad in front of the girls.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:51 pm

Your definition of "making me look bad" is posting lies?

You GO, gurl!

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:52 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:a neutral site near the Zags like Seattle
Just an FYI -- Seattle is like 300 miles from Spokane. Doesn't meet too many people's definiton of "near," I'm sure.

Yes, but they have a (currently) ranked Memphis coming to Seattle. I'm calling that a home game for the Zags.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:55 pm

420 wrote:
I did analysis on the previous page,

uh....right. I think you're hallucinating again. Care to link that up, or maybe quote it, so we can be reminded of you awesome analysis?
Oh, I think I found it...

420 wrote: ... to leave out LB's and DB's. God knows they never come up on running plays or deliver blows on passing plays.

Brilliant!!

Or was it maybe here...

420 wrote:
It's kinda like looking at the development of a cocoon, then realizing that it's opening, and saying to yourself... that's not a caterpillar.

Either way, you've gotta be a fuckin' genius.
I can respect that.

Jerkovich · Post by **Jerkovich** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:58 pm

DAMN IT! MIKEY GOT ME. FUCKITSHITMOFOBITCH

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:59 pm

gotta love mikey kicking m2ool's ass with one foot and duncedale's ass with the other at the same time.

good fucking shit.

XXXL · Post by **XXXL** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:53 am

Fresno State Rules!!!!!!!

FLW Buckeye · Post by **FLW Buckeye** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:58 am

Regardless of how someone is melting at the mention of the school, or how much in someone's dome they may be, big RACKS go to the BSU squad for their performance against the Sooners. Hell of a game!

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:33 pm

Mikey wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Sorry, man. Really. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings so badly.

If it means that much to you I'll stop following you around and making you look bad in front of the girls.

FTFY

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:24 am

Felix wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
BSU was getting beaten senseless. OU ponied up turnovers, which gave BSU the game. But to say OU wasn't beating the ever loving fuck out of them would be inaccurate.
I have to ask....did you watch the game.....because BSU wasn't getting beaten.....

they created those two turnovers you reference, the fumble was stripped from Thompson's hand and the interception for a touchdown was on a pass tipped at the line.....

Now on the other hand, at 28-10, OU got the most fortunate break of the game when the punt bounced off the BSU players foot....no fault of his, but that's just one of the breaks...but OU didn't create that turnover, it was handed to them.....

If BSU fields that punt cleanly, we're not having a discussion about the game being one of the best ever.....BSU runs another 5 to 6 minutes off the clock....even if they don't score, they pin OU deep in their own territory forcing them to drive the length of the field....they would have never been able to stage that remarkable comeback because they wouldn't have had time.....

Best post in the whole thread.

So, m2, Cal gets wasted by Phil Fulmer

, who gets wasted by Penn State, who got wasted by Notre Dame, who got wasted by USC, who got wasted by Oregon State, who got absolutely obliterated by.......help me out here..........BOISE STATE. Using your demented logic of course. You may now exit stage left.

The argument AGAINST Boise is much, much simpler. They had to get up for ONE game. And had several weeks to do so. Florida on the other hand had to play an SEC Schedule which meant they got their asses pounded on HARD every freaking week by top level quality talent and freaking won. How would Boise have fared in the SEC? I hate making an argument in favor of big conferences because I hate the arrogance of the big conferences. But there can be no argument against what I just typed. None. So, moronSQUARED, if you want to shoot down the Boise honks, bring a measure of common sense to your freaking argument.

420 · Post by **420** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:57 am

Hey, shit for brains(also known as the redneck pig from Houston) rozytard.

Care to explain this gem...

rozy wrote:
Vent all you want, but Utah and Auburn each would wipe out this Boise team.

Psst... Boise State actually played Utah this year. They even went to Utah to do it.

Let me explain the outcome to your white-trash, neckcar ass!

Boise State 36 Utah 3

I don't expect you to come back to this thread... since you, like most on this board have been so embarrassed by the truth in the past, that they constantly do hit and runs with the King.

Unfortunately, this hit and run... just went right back up your ignorant redneck ass!!!

If you have the ball's, which we all know you don't!

Come back in... and let us know how it felt.

P.S. You toothless, backwoods motherfucker...

rozy wrote: So, moronSQUARED, if you want to shoot down the Boise honks, bring a measure of common sense to your freaking argument.

Shit for brains... should be your permanent nic!

I was the only one on this board that predicted that Boise State would win, you fucking mental midget!

NjSooner · Post by **NjSooner** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:01 am

420 wrote:
Boise State 36 Utah 3

2004 Utah and 2004 Auburn, dickhole. You cant compare teams from different years, you gotta leave that to ESPN to fuck up.

420 · Post by **420** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:17 am

NjSooner wrote:
420 wrote:
Boise State 36 Utah 3

2004 Utah and 2004 Auburn, dickhole. You cant compare teams from different years, you gotta leave that to ESPN to fuck up.

My god... do 99% of all Sooner fans inhale dirt for subsentence???

What the fuck is your mentally retarded brain trying to say???

rozy · Post by **rozy** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:03 am

Actually, Dumbass, I can't substantiate it here, but every football friend I have at work would tell you I also picked Boise St. to win that game. That of course having absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand as well as being completely irrelevant.

Now, as Nj pointed out, and as anyone else with the ability to rub more than 3 brain cells together simultaneously saw as obvious, I was clearly referring to the '04 Utah and Auburn teams. Teams exponentially superior to this Boise team. Glad I could clear that up for you since I know context seems to kick your ass with almost as much fervor as you spend kicking it yourself.

Your attempted deflection is now made moot. Care to address the content of the other post or is concession to be inferred?

Your premise was that since Cal beat aTm...handily, and since aTm is considered a top 4 team in the Big 12...by you... that, by some osmosis of the hempfried San Francisco brain means that BSU beating Oklatucky by 1 would OBVIOUSLY...to you... mean that Cal would beat Boise by...as much as they feel like. How then do you explain Cal losing to Tenn who lost to PSU who lost to ND who lost to USC who lost to Oregon St. who got gangbanged by who were we talking about again? Oh yeah, Boise State. So, by using YOUR logic, bounced first off of 3 windchimes, 4 boxes of Rice a Roni, 3 pole smokers climbing Golden Gate bridge, and 7 long haired friends of Jesus in that old chartreuse microbus, OBVIOUSLY Boise would beat Cal somewhere in the neighborhood of 77-3. Using your logic...of course.

420 · Post by **420** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:21 am

rozy wrote:Actually, Dumbass, I can't substantiate it here, but every football friend I have at work would tell you I also picked Boise St. to win that game.

You're absolutely pathetic!

rozy wrote:I was clearly referring to the '04 Utah and Auburn teams. Teams exponentially superior to this Boise team.

What the liar actually wrote...

rozy wrote:Vent all you want, but Utah and Auburn each would wipe out this Boise team.

Do they teach you pigs to lie without consequence?

Nice spin, pig!

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:54 am

jtr wrote:...much more closer.

watch out jess, when dins' mom sees this, she's gonna kick your ass.