UFO at O'Hare

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:30 pm

Some United Airlines employees, some of them pilots, insist they saw a mysterious, saucer-shaped UFO hovering low over Chicago's O'Hare Airport last fall.

The Chicago Tribune reported that an object without lights was reported hovering over the terminal for several minutes before shooting up through the clouds. The paper said the workers are upset that their bosses and the government refuse to take them seriously. The workers reported that the saucerlike object left a hole in overcast skies after bolting through thick clouds with intense energy.

"To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.

Sincerely,

Goober42

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:33 pm

Make your time.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:47 pm

That wasn't a UFO, that was just another errant pass from Rex Grossman.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:49 pm

It's like Deja Vu, but with less cowbell.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:55 pm

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:07 am

Uh....I think what should give everyone a slight chill is the fact that the witnesses aren't rubes from trailor parks, but PILOTS and jet maintainance mechanics. I mean, are we really ready to entrust our next flight to folks who are hallucinating? The ONLY alternative to having them suspended for observation is to accept their testimony. Nice.

Personally, I'd love to believe in UFO's and hope for their beneficent interdiction in our disasterous stewardship of the planet, but really, one would have to land on my fucking lawn for me to completely buy in.

"trust us"

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:09 am

Shoalzie wrote:That wasn't a UFO, that was just another errant pass from Rex Grossman.

Bobby42 · Post by **Bobby42** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:28 am

I saw Bigfoot once! It made a sound that I don't care to hear twice in my life.

Sin
Dinsdale

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:17 am

I once reeled Nessie in.

Let 'er go.

~ Dins

p.s. You all suck

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:05 am

....yeah...but, you clowns aren't servicing, let alone flying, commercial jet airliners...right?

Apparently, though, a couple of the O' Hare witnesses were Christers--and were reportedly "very upset" by the...uh, implications. Ever read "Childhood's End," by Arthur C. Clarke? Basically, the UFO's show up in a massive holding pattern, and the world's religions just evaporate in a few weeks. Ever read "Behold A Pale Rider"? This work purports to be non-fiction, describes meetings between the Eisenhower administration and ALIENS, etc., and goes on from there (pssst...THEY'RE HERE!!!), including the assertion that the CIA was established in effect for damage control on this issue.

Carry on.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:22 am

The fact that a group of people saw a 'UFO' does nothing to shoot down the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:11 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:....yeah...but, you clowns aren't servicing, let alone flying, commercial jet airliners...right?

Apparently, though, a couple of the O' Hare witnesses were Christers--and were reportedly "very upset" by the...uh, implications. Ever read "Childhood's End," by Arthur C. Clarke? Basically, the UFO's show up in a massive holding pattern, and the world's religions just evaporate in a few weeks. Ever read "Behold A Pale Rider"? This work purports to be non-fiction, describes meetings between the Eisenhower administration and ALIENS, etc., and goes on from there (pssst...THEY'RE HERE!!!), including the assertion that the CIA was established in effect for damage control on this issue.

Carry on.

So "they" are here eh? The CIA was created due to UFO's eh? Let me guess, L. Ron Hubbard is God as well, right?

LTS TRN 2 at the latest "Conspiracy meeting."

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:59 pm

C'mon, wad, if you're willing to do the work of doctoring up a photo of Cindi Sheehan (a true American patriot, btw), well you can certainly bother to actually read the fucking post which you're attempting to lampoon. If you do you'll see I clearly qualify my support for the UFO believers by wanting such evidence as presented by a flying saucer landing on my lawn, etc.

The book "Behold A Pale Horse" is by William Cooper, is quite famous, and here's some interesting info on it and his assertions. Enjoy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:13 pm

poptart wrote:The fact that a group of people saw a 'UFO' does nothing to shoot down the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Of course it doesn't P-tart. Nor does it invalidate the Ascension of Mohammed, the Easter Bunny, The Return of Quetzalcoatl, or any of the mass weddings conducted by Sun Myung Moon.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:13 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:C'mon, wad, if you're willing to do the work of doctoring up a photo of Cindi Sheehan (a true American patriot, btw), well you can certainly bother to actually read the fucking post which you're attempting to lampoon. If you do you'll see I clearly qualify my support for the UFO believers by wanting such evidence as presented by a flying saucer landing on my lawn, etc.

The book "Behold A Pale Horse" is by William Cooper, is quite famous, and here's some interesting info on it and his assertions. Enjoy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper

The really funny part about your response cumstain, is that you gave me credit for the wytch-work on that photo. It's called a Google search, look into it!

Cindi who?

And I did read your blathering of a post troll, and you did a very nice job of riding the fence on the issue. First it's "yeah, I need one to land on my dome to prove it". Fair enough, most of us feel the same way. However, you then go right ahead and make analogies to "Childhood's End" and "Pale Rider", suggesting there may be some "hidden truth" in those works. And yes, I read both of them...in fucking high school, where they belong. As fiction...science-fucking-fiction. EOS.

So you carry on L. Ron. Enjoy your tinfoil toupee.

Fruitloop.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:26 pm

What, that's NOT Cindi Sheehan? It's a MAN? Oops, my bad.

So what bile and disdain do you maintain for the pilots and jet mechanics? William Cooper was certainly shooting from the hip with an Uzi, as it were, but...if you're so derisive of "leaving the door open," do you matter of factly insist NO UFO's? Why? And why, after all, shouldn't we trust a commercial airline pilot to offer a clear, no bullshit account? Especially when he would know full well that such an assertion would cause serious scrutiny as to his psychological health.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:15 pm

So you fell off the fence and knocked what little sense you had left out of your head. You might want to have yourself checked for a concussion, 'cause you're clearly delirious.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:What, that's NOT Cindi Sheehan? It's a MAN? Oops, my bad.

Ahhh, a spot of clarity, very good. You haven't flatlined yet.

Yet.

So what bile and disdain do you maintain for the pilots and jet mechanics? William Cooper was certainly shooting from the hip with an Uzi, as it were,

Ooops...fuzzieness setting back in. Get the paddles ready...

Where did I say anything about the pilots, or anybody for that matter except for you. Just you, pinhead and only you.

but...if you're so derisive of "leaving the door open," do you matter of factly insist NO UFO's? Why?

Damn it, he's flatlining! Clear...!

You can't be seriously asking that question. But for the sake of sanity, let's just say that there have been occasions where observed and/or photographed objects..or phenomena if you will, have appeared in the sky or on the ground, with seemingly no explanations. If you take things like swampgas, weather balloons, aircraft, flares, clouds, sunspots, meteorites, lightning, military testing, birds and the Wicked Witch of the West out of the equation however, you're left with about one-half of one percent of genuinely unexplained "UFO" sightings. And no, that doesn't mean I'm leaving the backdoor open for E.T.'s glowing finger the way you are proby, I just acknowledge that there are Unidentified Objects that occur once every blue moon...you know, like a blue moon.

And why, after all, shouldn't we trust a commercial airline pilot to offer a clear, no bullshit account? Especially when he would know full well that such an assertion would cause serious scrutiny as to his psychological health

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Dammit, he's dead Jim.

People see funny things when they knock themselves in the head falling off fences. Go figure.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:38 am

Okay, you had me at "swamp gas." This one's solved. But don't kid yourself, your omssion of ANY critique of the witnesses indeed invites--DEMANDS--the probing fingers of the pilots themselves. And the mechanics. And they'll know what to do with them, and how to best implore upon your smug but fragile perch of haughty reason (i.e., the shoddy juggling of figures as though dazzling some children at a carnival).

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:40 am

It was just the Biaviian Mothership.

sin,

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:45 pm

I...don't think you're getting it.....

WE'RE FUCKING HERE AND WE COME IN PEACE, NOW LET US HELP YOU!!!

Husker4ever · Post by **Husker4ever** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:13 pm

If you consider the number (infinite) of galaxies in the universe you have to conclude that we are not alone. If you believe that the grain of sand we occupy here on the beach of the universe has no other like it (supports life), you are ignorant.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:51 pm

until we actually have proof of alien technical intelligence in the form of say radio emissions
then to say we are not alone is just an opinion or
theory at best---
certainly in our proximity, the lack of radio signals
shows that at least, there is no one in the "hood" !

and that is my opinion

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:43 pm

Mace--
reminded me of this:

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/apri ... ments/921/

btw--- Joe Mauer is already working out here
1/13 I get my tickets to the Twin's spring games !!

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:00 pm

was that around the same time Jimmy was fighting off
the viscious rabbit of Caerbannog ???

Bobby42 · Post by **Bobby42** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:54 pm

..and it set off the near catastrophe known as the Night of the Lepus.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:57 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, you had me at "swamp gas." This one's solved. But don't kid yourself, your omssion of ANY critique of the witnesses indeed invites--DEMANDS--the probing fingers of the pilots themselves. And the mechanics. And they'll know what to do with them, and how to best implore upon your smug but fragile perch of haughty reason (i.e., the shoddy juggling of figures as though dazzling some children at a carnival).

Okay, now that I've had a little fun with you, here is the "omission" you requested.

First things first. As a point of clarification, while I remain a fairly ardent skeptic, I don't outright dismiss the possibility or even the probability of life elsewhere. The fact that the right combination of elements fell into place under the right conditions here on Earth one random millenium ago, means that the odds are almost certain of it having happened elsewhere. Lighting does indeed, upon occasion, strike twice. That on the table, if said other life forms have come to pass, and if said life forms have evolved to point of interplanetary or interdimensional travel, given the vastness, the almost limitless scope of space, the odds of them stumbling upon this mudpuddle is astronomically, staggeringly remote at best. And so far, there remains no proof that "they" are out there.

Now then, on to your witnesses.

The Federal Aviation Administration acknowledged that a United supervisor had called the control tower at O'Hare, asking if anyone had spotted a spinning disc-shaped object. It said controllers didn't see anything, and a preliminary check of radar found nothing out of the ordinary. The FAA acknowledged the incident was reported, but it is not investigating. They're chalking it up to weather conditions.

There you go. Nothing on radar, no photographic evidence. And bear in mind, the right sort of atmospheric conditions and possible refracted sunlight, can cause just such a "disc-like" effect in the sky. They're called clouds, and they move and spin. They're even sometimes round.

Ooooooh creepy.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:51 pm

Jay, your weasally spin-job is straight out of Rusp Limpdick's auto-blather reflex.

First, our own earthly technology has already developed radar-proof aircraft. Gee, do you think a inter-galactic species could have developed that a long time ago?

Clouds? You're kidding, right?

Look, clown, you once again have completely failed to address--evaded--the basic point. We have PILOTS who say they say a SAUCER-SHAPED object. A pilot knows a cloud from a disk.

As far as your juggling of "odds," this is meaningless tripe. We know reletively NOTHING about our own planet's recent history, let alone of astronomy, etc.

Any squirrely evasions on the Nazca Lines in Peru? How about the similar (and completely unaccounted for) set of perfectly straight ancient roads running plumb north-south discovered in the Ohio valley?

You're a joke--just like Limpdick.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:47 pm

You know LTS TuRD, here I was, tryin' to be all nice and let you off the hook, and lookee what happened...you done gone and impaled yourself through your eye and into your little pea-sized fish-brain. Ah well, so be it.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Jay, your weasally spin-job is straight out of Rusp Limpdick's auto-blather reflex.

What spin job? I said there is no proof of alien life and that is that. Where is the spin, other than in your own imagination?

First, our own earthly technology has already developed radar-proof aircraft. Gee, do you think a inter-galactic species could have developed that a long time ago?

Dumbass, if your E.T.'s were so effing advanced, why are they bothering to hover over airport, in full view of witnesses and yet go to all the trouble of covering their gray asses up on the radar? What's the point of being seen and then not interacting? And again, with the bajillion and one cell-phone cameras out there, and given that anybody working in the tower or on the ground at an airport or anywhere nearby, why wasn't there a photo? They have multi-angle views of the planes going into the Towers, from dozens of cameras, yet our alien friends are camera shy......righhhhht.

Clouds? You're kidding, right?

No, I'm not. :wink:

Look, clown, you once again have completely failed to address--evaded--the basic point. We have PILOTS who say they say a SAUCER-SHAPED object. A pilot knows a cloud from a disk. As far as your juggling of "odds," this is meaningless tripe. We know reletively NOTHING about our own planet's recent history, let alone of astronomy, etc.

Look dumbfuck, you once again have displayed an utter lack of any degree of logic and comprehension. Okay...snap-snap...here's a hint. A pilot also knows how to use a camera. Where're the photos? And the odds are only meaningless to you due to your inability to understand the obvious. Like ghosts, like Nessie, like Bigfoot and like the Tooth Fairy you love to dress up as on Halloween, there never has been a shred, not one iota, of physical evidence to support any claim of the existnece of UFO's. Until someone can manifest a piece of spacecraft or a shiny-suited little gray man or Sasquatch's porn stash, you and the rest of the Trekkies need to, as William Shatner once pleaded, "get a freaking life!"

Any squirrely evasions on the Nazca Lines in Peru? How about the similar (and completely unaccounted for) set of perfectly straight ancient roads running plumb north-south discovered in the Ohio valley?

Curious and mysterious ancient artworks they are, proof of Predator, not so much. Eric von Daniken probably didn't believe half of the crap he wrote, let alone the joke of a film that "In Search of Ancient Astronauts" truly was. Sorry to poop on your "Bible" tard, but you really do need a cold, shower blast of reality.

The joke is on you and your ilk dumbass. Now go find your tinfoil beenie and your Space Ghost decoder ring and place them up your tuckuss, it's time for that 5 o'clock probing.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:04 am

Sagan sure puts the kabosh to religion as an answer. And of course he's completely right. He built a persuasive argument against ANY UFO's, if fact. But he wasn't at O'Hara airport the other day either.

At least babs takes a stand--and is again ludicrous in his knee-jerk tunnel-vision. Lock up the pilot? And the mechanics? How about the astronaut (Cooper?)?

J-Pheonix, you are so determined to deny what a commercial airline pilot (and there were in fact more than one) saw, that you can't say yes or no--the witnesses should all be taken under observation. As for no cameras, I agree that the cell-phone digitals now almost demand a photographic record of basically every newsworthy human event. But, are you really ready to extend your argument so completely upon the simple Lack Of A Photgraph criteria? You mean ONE clear photo, video, or chunk of "spaceship" and you're on board with William Cooper? Cuz that's what I'm hearing from the corner into which you've painted yourself.

As for dismissing the Nazca Lines or the Ohio Valley roads as simply "ancient artworks," well this is just what I mean by a weasally spin-job. I'm not offering them as evidence for anything--except the REAL ignorance we maintain as to even the very recent history on this planet.

Comparisons and associations with "Predator" and "Easter Bunny" are similarly sleazy, a common approach of false analogies and smears used by such phonies and hacks as Dennis Miller, btw.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:45 pm

For the love of god LTS, if you are going to make such an impassioned argument for your "fringe" beliefs, at least come with some credibility...

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Sagan sure puts the kabosh to religion as an answer. And of course he's completely right. He built a persuasive argument against ANY UFO's, if fact. But he wasn't at O'Hara airport the other day either.

At least babs takes a stand--and is again ludicrous in his knee-jerk tunnel-vision. Lock up the pilot? And the mechanics? How about the astronaut (Cooper?)?

There you go, straddling that damn fence again. Figured the blow to your noggin would'a learned you something, but sadly, no...still a tard. First you're saying "Gee, that Carl Sagan sure has a good point about NO UFO's." Then you spin, yes SPIN around and beg, "..but what about what the pilots saw, the ground crew, wha-wha-wha!" Make up your mind dude, which side of the fence do you want to fall on, or are you just content to bounce up and down on a post, dreaming about you next abduction/deep finger exploration fantasy?

And what about Cooper? Which Cooper?

J-Pheonix, you are so determined to deny what a commercial airline pilot (and there were in fact more than one) saw, that you can't say yes or no--the witnesses should all be taken under observation. As for no cameras, I agree that the cell-phone digitals now almost demand a photographic record of basically every newsworthy human event. But, are you really ready to extend your argument so completely upon the simple Lack Of A Photgraph criteria? You mean ONE clear photo, video, or chunk of "spaceship" and you're on board with William Cooper? Cuz that's what I'm hearing from the corner into which you've painted yourself.

Painted into a corner? Says the loser in the rubber room dressed in a lovely biege straight-jacketed ensemble? Serious TuRD, look in the mirror. That ain't Michael Jackson's freaky-fucking face you're seeing reflected, but it might as well be.

I am not, repeat, not denying that the pilot or the grounds people saw "something". Clearly they did. Let me give you a little history lesson on perspective. It is a fact, that when the first native people of this country first saw a ship on the ocean's horizon, they didn't actually "see" anything. They had never seen a ship before, and had no reference point for one. So as far as this first "alien" encounter was concerned, all the native's saw, was a blob that was just another part of the sea. That is, until the ship was nearly on top of them, pulling up to the shore. Going back further into history, the first explanations for that glowing ball of fire in the sky was that it was God. Discover, the science magazine did an article on this a few issues back. Go find it and educate yourself.

What all this means, is that people see what they want to see...or not. The mind plays tricks with the eye, when the eye doesn't quite know what it is viewing. So yes, a swirling silvery disc-like mass in the sky could very simply be the clouds and sunlight. Has anyone established yet what the weather condistions were at O'Hare that day? And as far as that nutjob Cooper is concerned, he's more up your conspiricy back alley. Find more proof other than a bunch of people freaking out over their flashbacks from "Signs."

As for dismissing the Nazca Lines or the Ohio Valley roads as simply "ancient artworks," well this is just what I mean by a weasally spin-job. I'm not offering them as evidence for anything--except the REAL ignorance we maintain as to even the very recent history on this planet.

Comparisons and associations with "Predator" and "Easter Bunny" are similarly sleazy, a common approach of false analogies and smears used by such phonies and hacks as Dennis Miller, btw.

No spin dipshit. I suppose you're going to spout out your belief in alien crop-circles next. Oooooh M. Night Shysterlon proved that E.T. made'em in "Signs" right? Nah, crop-circles couldn't possibly be created by a couple of guys with sticks and ropes huh? Nah.....gotta be UFO's. Think about that for a second freak. You can't see what a crop-circle looks like from the ground, only by air. Same with the lines of Nazca. But crop-circles, like the lines, are only geometric shapes and patternes, easily made with said sticks and ropes, to be viewed by "Gods" in the sky. The Nazca lines may not have been etched with twine, but it's the same principle.

And thanks for the Dennis Miller compliment. Dude is smart, dude is funny, dude is an asshole. Thanks, thanks and thanks again.

Now run along and go wear out your VHS copies of "In Search Of". Thinking backward is always a good thing.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:12 pm

Jay wrote:Has anyone established yet what the weather condistions were at O'Hare that day?

It was completely overcast and nearing dusk.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:27 pm

And there you have it. Clouds and fading sunlight.

This round of charades is over LDS TuRD 2ool.

Thanks poptart.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:37 pm

My own read on the situation is that folks did see "something" in the sky that night.
There are a slew of credible witnesses to the same event.

In the year 2007 it's sort of curious that nobody got a pic of it.

Oh wellz.

No radar, no pic, but many credible witnesses.

Interesting.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:22 pm

And therein lies my point poptart. I have not denied that the witnesses saw anything, or that they were or were not credible. Sure, I'm having fun bopping TuRD in the head, however, something odd was observed. As to its' origin or nature, without that Orwellian hard evidence, what everyone saw is only conjecture.

However, odds are heavily in favor of it being a natural, rationally explainable event. Like clouds and skylight refracting a setting sun.

Again, how on earth can we have multi-angle views of the 911 planes going into the Towers, yet not one single reliable photo of a UFO over O'Hare on a busy day, when "it" was seen by so many people?

The answer...it wasn't a UFO.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:50 pm

The proliferation of cell phones with cameras makes
it even more unlikely that UFO's, alien vistors, Nessie,
Bigfoot, and even the Yeti exist.
Probably if 9/11 hapened today, we would have had
many more images of the tragedy.
Imagine if JFK's murder happened today ? The Zapruder film would have had multi angle shots to
back up what ocurred !

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:39 pm

Jay, while I'm not surprised you're a big fan of Dennis Miller, you're still in denial as to your REAL Ditto-head intellectual base. Your smear tactic applied again and again probably does in fact convinve YOU that you're somehow making sense. But you're not. You consistently evade and misapply clumsy comparisons while imputing positions that no one has advocated or implied.

No one is talking about the Easter Bunny, Crop Circles, or Milton William Cooper in connection with the sighting at O'Hara. (The astronaut who swore his Apollo craft was approached by aliens was ...Cooper as well, no?). All of this blathering smear is useless, hollow, and really just a dodge.

Your (really backpeddling) asertion of "primitives" being somehow unable to cognate new previously unexperienced images is TOTALLY speculation. And bullshit. While indeed there has been interesting observations about Africans being unable to absorb and psychologically adapt to the "modernity" of, say, King Leopold's fun new Belgian Carnival, the very idea that a Peruvian or Mexican seeing a ship of what...160'?...and somehow just drawing a mental blank is total nonsense. Moreover, the pilots and mechanics--and all of us--are plenty prepared. We've seen in movies and pictures pretty much every shape of alien craft we can imagine.

So, one picture and you're done. Okay.

Meanwhile, explain these "giant" skulls from a museum in Peru. The arriving Spanish were told of the "giants," how they'd arrived long before on huge rafts, how they were finally killed by "an angel of God," etc. I DON'T CLAIM to know what the fuck these people were, or where they came from, but it's always fun to see some incorrigible rationalist twist himself into a self-fellating postion just to....well, what is it you are trying to do? Besides blowing yourself, I mean

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:09 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Meanwhile, explain these "giant" skulls from a museum in Peru.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:15 pm

That's...what we WANT you to believe...

Hey, seen my ship?...Oh, there it is...

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:19 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Jay, while I'm not surprised you're a big fan of Dennis Miller, you're still in denial as to your REAL Ditto-head intellectual base. Your smear tactic applied again and again probably does in fact convinve YOU that you're somehow making sense. But you're not. You consistently evade and misapply clumsy comparisons while imputing positions that no one has advocated or implied.

Holy fuck dude, you just don't know when to quit do you. Even when nothing, absolutely nothing about the O'Hare story has any validation whatsoever. And pray tell genius, what exactly is it that I'm smearing, eh? Belief in tall tales told by people who haven't the capacity for a single rational thought? Smearing brain-dead crazies who still harbour their Star Trek fantasies sadly into adulthood? All right, fuck it...bring on the bread, 'cause here comes some a massive smearing of jam up your central probe port.

No one is talking about the Easter Bunny, Crop Circles, or Milton William Cooper in connection with the sighting at O'Hara. (The astronaut who swore his Apollo craft was approached by aliens was ...Cooper as well, no?). All of this blathering smear is useless, hollow, and really just a dodge.

No, most people would call it analogous thought designed for contrast against your von Daniken delusions. As to the Cooper footage, it's just space detritus, like what is between your ears.

Your (really backpeddling) asertion of "primitives" being somehow unable to cognate new previously unexperienced images is TOTALLY speculation.

I did no such thing. You're just projecting. What I said was that the images, the enormous drawings on the Nazca plains could have been done in the same manner as crop circles are formed. Who the hell knows what the drawings mean or who they were meant for. For all that anyone can conjecture, it is simply what it is...ancient art, nothing more.

If you can establish one single shread of certifiable connection between a Kachina-like figure to an alien being, or a series of lines as some sort of ancient runway, we can have a discussion. So far, all you've done is bitch and whine that nobody believes you, especially me. You've offered zero evidence into this thread. Just a preponderance for incoherent ramblings. Come back to me when you have something to offer.

While indeed there has been interesting observations about Africans being unable to absorb and psychologically adapt to the "modernity" of, say, King Leopold's fun new Belgian Carnival, the very idea that a Peruvian or Mexican seeing a ship of what...160'?...and somehow just drawing a mental blank is total nonsense.

Absolutely-fucking-a-incorrect shithead. You want to call out the authors of Discover magazine, go for it. I'm sure they are just a tad-more researched into the field of a primitive mind's ablility to perceive. Hell, you were their case-study sporto. They (the indians) didn't draw a blank, they had nothing to referecne the object, the ship, to. Go back a read it again dunce.

Moreover, the pilots and mechanics--and all of us--are plenty prepared. We've seen in movies and pictures pretty much every shape of alien craft we can imagine.

DING DING DING!!! Congratulations on deflating your own pathetic argument. So you've seen "Independence Day" and "Star Wars" so you all know every single possible configuration of what an "alien" craft might look like. You've seen E.T. and know you're prepared for alien contact. Do you realize just how big of a dork you sound like? Sci-fi convention much? Jerk off to pictures of Bat-Boy? God what a loser you are. And yes, those pilots and mechanics were so very very prepared that they have all those pictures to show us....no they don't.

And why....once again....there was NO FUCKING U-F-O!

And now, here comes the best part!

So, one picture and you're done. Okay.

Meanwhile, explain these "giant" skulls from a museum in Peru. The arriving Spanish were told of the "giants," how they'd arrived long before on huge rafts, how they were finally killed by "an angel of God," etc. I DON'T CLAIM to know what the fuck these people were, or where they came from, but it's always fun to see some incorrigible rationalist twist himself into a self-fellating postion just to....well, what is it you are trying to do? Besides blowing yourself, I mean

Yeah...that one did me in alright.

Allow me to offer a modern day counterpoint.

Pinhead.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:20 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Meanwhile, explain these "giant" skulls from a museum in Peru.

PERFECT

RACK and thanks for the lol'r