Happy MLK Day

[KC Scott]

I'm really sure what we plan to do to celebrate the holiday since we're iced in:

I guess BBQing some ribs on the deck is out of the question.
I may get the BB gun out and let son # 2 shoot at some crows in the backyard.



Hope y'all have a good un.

[Derron]

Shoot 4 more and take the whole fucking week off.

[Cuda]

Why was it that everywhere & every time MLK went to preach his philosophy of non-violence, the jigaboos went on a fucking rampage afterwards?

[Cicero]

^^ Cause they are hypocrites.

[Dinsdale]

Shoot 4 more and take the whole fucking week off.

I laughed.

[Dinsdale]

Why was it that everywhere & every time MLK went to preach his philosophy of non-violence, the jigaboos went on a fucking rampage afterwards?

Genetically predisposed.


**Runs for hills**

[KC Scott]

Shoot 4 more and take the whole fucking week off.

L-R; joke, Derron

[Mister Bushice]

Why was it that everywhere & every time MLK went to preach his philosophy of non-violence, the jigaboos went on a fucking rampage afterwards?

Not sure, but maybe it was the bomb threats, the beatings, the fire hoses, or perhaps the billy clubs?

I know it wasn't the hugging.

Good ol' 1960's era southern hospitality.

[Cuda]

This may come as quite a shock to you, Babshice, but MLK''s appearances weren't confined to the deep south- and neither were the riots that followed him.

And the fire hoses, dogs and billy-clubs: they were responses to the riots, not the causes of them.

Dumbfuck

[KC Scott]

Good ol' 1960's era southern hospitality.

The irony being, of course that more than 50% of today's black weren't around to experience it.

[BSmack]

This may come as quite a shock to you, Babshice, but MLK''s appearances weren't confined to the deep south- and neither were the riots that followed him.

And the fire hoses, dogs and billy-clubs: they were responses to the riots, not the causes of them.

Dumbfuck

Yea, and Mayor Daley's cops were like Mother Theresa. Let's let's not forget the good ol' LAPD. Fuckin idiot.

[Smackie Chan]

Shoot 4 more and take the whole fucking week off.

The Greaseman got two weeks off (involuntarily) when he ran that smack on the air here in DC the year MLK Day became a national holiday. He got fired and blackballed the day after Lauren Hill won all her Grammys, for playing music from her CD while cracking wise with, "THAT's why they get dragged behing pickup trucks!" He's back on the air out here now, though, albeit on AM.

[Cuda]

I realize that NewYorkers aren't the sharpest tools in the drawer, Monica, but neither Los Angeles, nor Chicago are even remotely considered to be parts of "the South"

[Mister Bushice]

This may come as quite a shock to you, Babshice, but MLK''s appearances weren't confined to the deep south- and neither were the riots that followed him.

And the fire hoses, dogs and billy-clubs: they were responses to the riots, not the causes of them.

Dumbfuck

Yeah, they always rioted for no apparent reason. Holy Christ are you ignorant.

May 4 1961

The first group of Freedom Riders, with the intent of integrating interstate buses, leaves Washington, D.C. by Greyhound bus. The group, organized by the Congress for Racial Equality (CORE), leaves shortly after the Supreme Court has outlawed segregation in interstate transportation terminals. The bus is burned outside of Anniston, Alabama on May 14. A mob beats the Freedom Riders upon their arrival in Birmingham, Alabama. The Freedom Riders are arrested in Jackson, Mississippi, and spend forty to sixty days in Parchman Penitentiary.

May 3 - 5 1963

Eugene “Bull” Connor, Director of Public Safety of Birmingham, Alabama, orders the use of police dogs and fire hoses against the marching protesters, including young adults and children.

September 15 1963

Four young black girls are killed in a Birmingham, Alabama church bombing by a white supremacist.

March 7 1965

A group of marching demonstrators (from SNCC and SCLC) led by SCLC’s Hosea Williams are beaten when crossing the Edmund Pettus Bridge on their planned march to Montgomery, Alabama, from Selma, Alabama. Their attackers were state highway patrolmen under the direction of Al Lingo and sheriff’s deputies under the leadership of Jim Clark. An order by Governor Wallace had prohibited the march.

March 9 1965

Unitarian minister, James Reeb, is beaten by four white segregationists in Selma. He dies two days later.

March 16 1965

Sheriff’s deputies and police on horseback in Montgomery, Alabama beat black and white demonstrators.

August 5 1965

Dr. King is stoned in Chicago as he leads a march through crowds of angry whites in the Gage Park section of Chicago’s southwest side.

July 12, 1967

The Newark Riot of 1967 began with the arrest of a cab driver named John Smith, who allegedly drove around a double-parked police car at the corner of 7th St. and 15th Avenue. He was subsequently stopped, interrogated, arrested and transported to the 4th precinct headquarters, during which time he was severely beaten by the arresting officers.

July 23, 1967

The 12th Street Riot in Detroit began in the early morning hours. Vice squad officers executed a raid at a Party for two returning Vietnam war vets on the corner of 12th Street and Clairmount on the city's near westside. The police proceeded to arrest all 82 of the people there. The confrontation with the patrons then evolved into one of the deadliest and most destructive riots in modern U.S. history

You know how long I could go on with this?

Your white hood is showing, You ignorant racist fuck.

[smackaholic]

This may come as quite a shock to you, Babshice, but MLK''s appearances weren't confined to the deep south- and neither were the riots that followed him.

And the fire hoses, dogs and billy-clubs: they were responses to the riots, not the causes of them.

Dumbfuck

Yeah, they always rioted for no apparent reason. Holy Christ are you ignorant.

May 4 1961

The first group of Freedom Riders, with the intent of integrating interstate buses, leaves Washington, D.C. by Greyhound bus. The group, organized by the Congress for Racial Equality (CORE), leaves shortly after the Supreme Court has outlawed segregation in interstate transportation terminals. The bus is burned outside of Anniston, Alabama on May 14. A mob beats the Freedom Riders upon their arrival in Birmingham, Alabama. The Freedom Riders are arrested in Jackson, Mississippi, and spend forty to sixty days in Parchman Penitentiary.

May 3 - 5 1963

Eugene “Bull” Connor, Director of Public Safety of Birmingham, Alabama, orders the use of police dogs and fire hoses against the marching protesters, including young adults and children.

September 15 1963

Four young black girls are killed in a Birmingham, Alabama church bombing by a white supremacist.

March 7 1965

A group of marching demonstrators (from SNCC and SCLC) led by SCLC’s Hosea Williams are beaten when crossing the Edmund Pettus Bridge on their planned march to Montgomery, Alabama, from Selma, Alabama. Their attackers were state highway patrolmen under the direction of Al Lingo and sheriff’s deputies under the leadership of Jim Clark. An order by Governor Wallace had prohibited the march.

March 9 1965

Unitarian minister, James Reeb, is beaten by four white segregationists in Selma. He dies two days later.

March 16 1965

Sheriff’s deputies and police on horseback in Montgomery, Alabama beat black and white demonstrators.

August 5 1965

Dr. King is stoned in Chicago as he leads a march through crowds of angry whites in the Gage Park section of Chicago’s southwest side.

July 12, 1967

The Newark Riot of 1967 began with the arrest of a cab driver named John Smith, who allegedly drove around a double-parked police car at the corner of 7th St. and 15th Avenue. He was subsequently stopped, interrogated, arrested and transported to the 4th precinct headquarters, during which time he was severely beaten by the arresting officers.

July 23, 1967

The 12th Street Riot in Detroit began in the early morning hours. Vice squad officers executed a raid at a Party for two returning Vietnam war vets on the corner of 12th Street and Clairmount on the city's near westside. The police proceeded to arrest all 82 of the people there. The confrontation with the patrons then evolved into one of the deadliest and most destructive riots in modern U.S. history

You know how long I could go on with this?

Your white hood is showing, You ignorant racist fuck.

you forgot the rodney king debacle where they rioted because cops weren't convicted of ridiculously exagerated charges. Yeah, that was a completely justifiable riot.

[Cuda]

So far, all youve done, Babshice, is contradict your own earlier assertion that MLK related riots were a deep south phenomenon, and toss in a number of completely irrelevant incidents while doing nothing whatsoever to refute the fact that billy-clubs & water hoses were a response to civillian disorder

[BSmack]

This may come as quite a shock to you, Babshice, but MLK''s appearances weren't confined to the deep south- and neither were the riots that followed him.

I realize that NewYorkers aren't the sharpest tools in the drawer, Monica, but neither Los Angeles, nor Chicago are even remotely considered to be parts of "the South"

Were you born this stupid? Or did you just work REAL HARD at it?

[Cuda]

Same as with Babshice, Monica, you're trying to assert things while providing no back-up whatsoever.

[BSmack]

Same as with Babshice, Monica, you're trying to assert things while providing no back-up whatsoever.

If you seriously think police brutality was a southern phenomena, then we are going to need the Jaws of Life just to get your head out of your ass. Look it up bitch.

[Mister Bushice]

So far, all youve done, Babshice, is contradict your own earlier assertion that MLK related riots were a deep south phenomenon,

Not one place in that initial post did I make that claim. You made that assumption. I made three statements, one of which included a "southern hospitality" slam.

and toss in a number of completely irrelevant incidents

They were all relevant because they pointed out how blacks were persecuted for peaceful marches and daring vehicle manuvers (like passing on the left)

while doing nothing whatsoever to refute the fact that billy-clubs & water hoses were a response to civillian disorder

Then there's this:

May 3 - 5 1963

Eugene “Bull” Connor, Director of Public Safety of Birmingham, Alabama, orders the use of police dogs and fire hoses against the marching protesters, including young adults and children.

You know where they planned AHEAD to use the hoses and the dogs on people marching?

[Kansas City Kid]

I am celebrating his famous, "I have a drink......." speech.

[Cuda]

So far, all youve done, Babshice, is contradict your own earlier assertion that MLK related riots were a deep south phenomenon,

Not one place in that initial post did I make that claim. You made that assumption. I made three statements, one of which included a "southern hospitality" slam.

The Southern Hospitality crack WAS your assertion that it was a deep south phenomenon, dumbfuck.

Not that it isn't standard procedure for you to imply things in such a way that you can later attempt to deny the implication

[KC Scott]

I am celebrating his famous, "I have a drink......." speech.

I liked the Chis Simm's Version:

"I had a Spleen"

[Cuda]

Nice job outing yourself as a Friend of Dorothy, Mace

[Mister Bushice]

So far, all youve done, Babshice, is contradict your own earlier assertion that MLK related riots were a deep south phenomenon,

Not one place in that initial post did I make that claim. You made that assumption. I made three statements, one of which included a "southern hospitality" slam.

The Southern Hospitality crack WAS your assertion that it was a deep south phenomenon, dumbfuck.

According to you, you mean. It was the one aspect of the post you're desperately clinging to because the rest of your racist views have been exposed as false.

[Mister Bushice]

you forgot the rodney king debacle where they rioted because cops weren't convicted of ridiculously exagerated charges. Yeah, that was a completely justifiable riot.

That was a cluster fuck on both sides. Those cops were convicted of nothing when there should have been some punishment given to some of them, considering the beating they gave him, and the South central LA black community suffered ( is still suffering) from that idiocy they perpetrated. Insurance companies and white corporate america basically shunned the entire area for years development-wise because of the risks that riot created. Some properties are STILL vacant lots or are boarded up buildings. No one wants to invest in that shithole, and the blacks living there have themselves to blame for it.

But that had nothing to do with the civil rights movement of the 1960's. The RKR was just pure stupid anger.

[Bizzarofelice]

I'm surprised they didn't riot over those Duke players that beat up and raped that poor innocent girl. Sure, they threatened the lives of the players and the families, even did so while in the court room, but at least they didn't riot.


Two things that allowed the population boom in the south:
1) air-conditioning
2) fire hoses

[Cuda]

Not one place in that initial post did I make that claim. You made that assumption. I made three statements, one of which included a "southern hospitality" slam.

The Southern Hospitality crack WAS your assertion that it was a deep south phenomenon, dumbfuck.

According to you, you mean. It was the one aspect of the post you're desperately clinging to because the rest of your racist views have been exposed as false.

Gibberish much, Babshice?

Try to follow your own fucking arguments, doucheous.

You made 2 assertions:

1, that the riots that occured everywhere MLK gave a speech were caused by the police, and

2. that the police actions were "good old southern hospitality"

The clear argument you were making is that the riots were a southern phenomenon- which you then proceeded to contradict by mentioning Chicago & Newark. Additionally, you didn't even make the attempt to back up your contention that the cops caused the riots rather than responded to them. You're trying to claim that these innocent nogs were just minding their own business when the cops just sarted beating on them for no reason and they responded by rioting & looting. Do you even stop to think of just how fucking idiotic that sounds? The much more resonable explanation is that mobs of nogs were either actively rioting, or on the verge of it, and had to be dealt with harshly to protect the safety & property of the rest of the public.

[Mister Bushice]

The clear argument you were making is that the riots were a southern phenomenon-

Again, that was YOUR interpretation, but that was NOT how I intended it. have you got that now?

The much more resonable explanation is that mobs of nogs were either actively rioting, or on the verge of it,

OH? And how exactly can planning ahead with dogs and fire hoses to deal with the menacing mob of marching women and children be considered reasonable?

and had to be dealt with harshly to protect the safety & property of the rest of the public.

You were there? You're absolving the white race of that era completely for their atittudes towards blacks because the blacks were being "Uppity", right? Segregated buses, restrooms, clubs, restaurants, those were all justified too, I suppose?

Were you even born before 1964? You should have been around then. You have the right attitude for that time.

Do you have any idea how racist you sound?

[smackaholic]

you forgot the rodney king debacle where they rioted because cops weren't convicted of ridiculously exagerated charges. Yeah, that was a completely justifiable riot.

That was a cluster fuck on both sides. Those cops were convicted of nothing when there should have been some punishment given to some of them, considering the beating they gave him, and the South central LA black community suffered ( is still suffering) from that idiocy they perpetrated. Insurance companies and white corporate america basically shunned the entire area for years development-wise because of the risks that riot created. Some properties are STILL vacant lots or are boarded up buildings. No one wants to invest in that shithole, and the blacks living there have themselves to blame for it.

But that had nothing to do with the civil rights movement of the 1960's. The RKR was just pure stupid anger.

The problem is, the idiot LA DA's office went for trumped up charges like attempted murder or aggravated assault, rather than something lighter that might have actually stuck.

Then, a far larger tragedy occured. The absolute worst case of double jeopardy evah. The feds spinelessly caved the the nog horde and went to their old standby civil rights charge.

Every single whitey in the country should have went out and burned some shit over that, but, that's not how we roll.

[Dinsdale]

Do you have any idea how racist you sound?

No worse than you, really.

Remind me again when was the last time a city didn't have police on standby when there was going to be a large group of people marching in protest?

Let's see -- they do it for the anti-war/anti-Bush rallies around here...every...single...time.

So, are Cuda's statements really any less judgemental than yours, which are based on the assumption that because a police department readies riot police, they've obviously planned a massive assault on the public?

[Cuda]

that was NOT how I intended it.

However that IS how you presented it.

And how exactly can planning ahead with dogs and fire hoses to deal with the menacing mob of marching women and children be considered reasonable?

In your usual hysteria, you're confusing MLK riots with non-MLK events.

and had to be dealt with harshly to protect the safety & property of the rest of the public.

You were there? You're absolving the white race of that era completely for their atittudes towards blacks because the blacks were being "Uppity", right? Segregated buses, restrooms, clubs, restaurants, those were all justified too, I suppose?

In 1964, and even longer ago than that, they had these thingies called "TV cameras", and other thingies called, I believe, "film" and "videotape machines". They used them to document riots, among other events. Non-violent protest is a myth

Parades, marches... any assemblage of a large number of people, and especially protests have always held the potential for danger to the public and typically require a permit and a fee to pay the extra cost of protecting both the protesters and the general public. Even a peaceful mob of nogs (sure, there were some of those) has to expect to comply with permit laws- which exist, in part for their own protection. But really, the vast majority of race riots in the 60's started for no other reason than the fact that a mob of nogs got to be big enough that they felt free to riot & loot & stand a good chance of getting away with it

Do you have any idea how racist you sound?

Do you have any idea how hysterically stupid you sound?

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

I have celebrated MLK Day by praying for Qualcomm and Pantalones.

Come home.

[Mister Bushice]

I had the displeasure of working in that area the year following the riots, and everywhere I went even the local black businessmen were still pissed at the rioters.

It was mostly the unemployed poor and gang members who went apeshit that day, but the entire community suffered the consequences.

[Dinsdale]

It was mostly the unemployed poor and gang members who went apeshit that day, but the entire community suffered the consequences.

Offering proof that whites have taken Dr. King's message to heart much better than their black counterparts...sad.


The man fought for the nogs' right to assualt and rob people in the front of the bus.

[Mister Bushice]

that was NOT how I intended it.

However that IS how you presented it.

How about letting it go already?

And how exactly can planning ahead with dogs and fire hoses to deal with the menacing mob of marching women and children be considered reasonable?

In your usual hysteria, you're confusing MLK riots with non-MLK events.

and in your usual stupidity, you're ignoring the fact that they were all part of one larger civil rights movement, with MLK at the focal point of it all.

and had to be dealt with harshly to protect the safety & property of the rest of the public.

You were there? You're absolving the white race of that era completely for their atittudes towards blacks because the blacks were being "Uppity", right? Segregated buses, restrooms, clubs, restaurants, those were all justified too, I suppose?

In 1964, and even longer ago than that, they had these thingies called "TV cameras", and other thingies called, I believe, "film" and "videotape machines". They used them to document riots, among other events. Non-violent protest is a myth

Again, ignoring the facts that many of the riots were a response to police brutality or attacks on peaceful marchers and not merely spontaneous rioting for the sake of a free TV.

Even a peaceful mob of nogs (sure, there were some of those)

Oh, so now you change your tune? Rather different than the "everywhere & every time" fallacy you started with.

the vast majority of race riots in the 60's started for no other reason than the fact that a mob of nogs got to be big enough that they felt free to riot & loot & stand a good chance of getting away with it

What the cameras don't ever show are the reasons for the racial tension, reasons that were societies problem, not just black people.

And we'd better fucking stop this thread before you-know-who shows up.

[Mister Bushice]

I have celebrated MLK Day by praying for Qualcomm and Pantalones.

Come home.

They're long gone, but it is a new winter with some decent winter storms already, so the possibility of getting some fresh blacksicles (or whitesicles) is high.

but long live quetzalcoatl and smallpoxian anyway.

[Dinsdale]

And we'd better fucking stop this thread before you-know-who shows up.

You're ferring to one of two people.

I'd guess that one is too busy celebrating this day, since it marked a new era, where midgets have the same rights as "big people."

The other is probably too busy celebrating the right to use the drinking fountain and restroom at Taco Bell.

[OCmike]

you forgot the rodney king debacle where they rioted because cops weren't convicted of ridiculously exagerated charges. Yeah, that was a completely justifiable riot.

That was a cluster fuck on both sides. Those cops were convicted of nothing when there should have been some punishment given to some of them, considering the beating they gave him, and the South central LA black community suffered ( is still suffering) from that idiocy they perpetrated. Insurance companies and white corporate america basically shunned the entire area for years development-wise because of the risks that riot created. Some properties are STILL vacant lots or are boarded up buildings. No one wants to invest in that shithole, and the blacks living there have themselves to blame for it.

But that had nothing to do with the civil rights movement of the 1960's. The RKR was just pure stupid anger.

The media also played a HUGE role in the whole debacle. For months all everyone saw was a short three-second blurb of cops beating the shit out of King, or a single still shot of cops with batons swinging down to hit King as he lie on the ground, every time they ran any story updating the arrest or trial. Hell, they ran that clip daily even when they DIDN'T have anything new to report on the story. Most people ended up thinking that King just got the shit beat out of him for no reason, when the truth is that he was so hopped up on PCP that what was it, six? officers couldn't even get this guy to the ground even after tasering him in the fucking chest. Did he deserve to be continually beaten even after he was subdued and on the ground? Absolutely not. But anyone, regardless of race, would have gotten a severe beatdown had they reacted the same way that King did during the ordeal. By painting King as "some poor guy who was beaten for no reason" the media provided the fuel for the fire that erupted at the conclusion of the officers' trial.

Also, for those who aren't from SoCal or aren't that familiar with the riots, most of it wasn't blacks who were protesting a travesty of justice or any such noble cause. The vast majority of the "rioters" were gangbangers and thugs who used the trial as a pretense to exact revenge on korean store owners in south central who they didn't like by burning down their stores, or used the riots as an opportunity to steal electronics or other costly goods. There was little "noble" outrage in LA.

[RadioFan]

I may get the BB gun out and let son # 2 shoot at some crows in the backyard.

Racist.

And the fire hoses, dogs and billy-clubs: they were responses to the riots, not the causes of them.

Without a doubt, the most ignorant statement about contemporary history I've read in here so far this year. The good news is Sissyroo has your back, Cuda.