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Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus while we're at it and appoint Chimpy McDouchbag El Presidente for Life?Cicero wrote:Fine by me.
Ya fucking moron.
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We don't need no stinkin' checks and balances.
How do you 'defer to the will of Congress' if you didn't allow Congress an input on the subject in the first place? Fucking Gonzales. :xGonzales says judges generally should defer to the will of the president and Congress when deciding national security cases.
Oh yeah, that's right. The BA is checking on the BA to make sure the BA's actions are within the BA guidelines. That's checks and blanaces alright.mvscal wrote:Checks and balances is exactly what he is talking about, dumbfuck.KatMode wrote:We don't need no stinkin' checks and balances.
Get a clue, you fucking dipshit. Jesus Christ.How do you 'defer to the will of Congress' if you didn't allow Congress an input on the subject in the first place? Fucking Gonzales. :x
What Congressional legislation approved the wiretapping program to step outside the FISA oversight?
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The next time half the country is in a state of armed insurrection you'll have a valid point.Tom In VA wrote:Worked for me.BSmack wrote:Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpusCicero wrote:Fine by me.
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There might be more elements that would be destructive to Lincoln's "more perfect union" today, than in 1861. You've got multiple factions out there being monitored. White Supremecists, Black Supremecists, Islamic Radicals, even animal rights people, willing to or at least willing to discuss and plan operations that could be detrimental to .... "the union".BSmack wrote: The next time half the country is in a state of armed insurrection you'll have a valid point.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm stating facts.
Suspending certain rights also worked for FDR, in WWII.
It isn't without precedent, so let's stop acting like it is and pretending the BushCo's are causing all of this. They're reacting like any other leader of this nation would in time of crisis.
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BSmack wrote:The next time half the country is in a state of armed insurrection you'll have a valid point.Tom In VA wrote:Worked for me.BSmack wrote: Yea, why don't we just suspend habeas corpus
Sincerely
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...are we not now in a state of insurrection? sans the arms!
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JIP said...Hell, Michael Sam has more integrity than you do.
Moving Sale wrote:How's the sky you little chicken?Tom In VA wrote: It isn't without precedent, so let's stop acting like it is and pretending the BushCo's are causing all of this. They're reacting like any other leader of this nation would in time of crisis.
The point I'm making is that there have been times in this country's history where leadership has decided to do things, things that on the surface went against liberty, but were overall .... seemingly good for the country and preserved it.
That's it. I'm not saying I agree or disagree.
The sky in my world is slightly overcast and they're calling for a bit of snow this evening. How's your drawers ? Shitstained as usual I'm sure.
What you linked up what not what I asked, dipshit. What you provided was the authorization of the President to allow wiretapping for foreign intelligence without a warrant. However, the FISA Court still has oversight over the wiretapping, whether it's done before or after the surveillance, as § 1803 & 1808 explains. So again, when did Congress approve the wiretapping program to step outside the FISA oversight?mvscal wrote:Shut the fuck up, idiot.KatMode wrote:What Congressional legislation approved the wiretapping program to step outside the FISA oversight?
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html ... -000-.html
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Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?
Terry's post was humorous from the standpoint that Sissy would do exactly that -- vote for suspension of the rule of law if this president says he should. I'm not too sure about the other half of the Wonder Twins, but I'm fairly certain there wouldn't be any strenuous objections to being bent over and fucked.
By the government, I mean. The obvious is a given, of course.
The administration did an about face on this one because they knew it likely would be struck down by the SC as a violation of the 1978 eavesdropping statute, imo. There's a reason for the FISA court. Doing an end run simply "because they can" is horseshit.
Terry's post was humorous from the standpoint that Sissy would do exactly that -- vote for suspension of the rule of law if this president says he should. I'm not too sure about the other half of the Wonder Twins, but I'm fairly certain there wouldn't be any strenuous objections to being bent over and fucked.
By the government, I mean. The obvious is a given, of course.
Yeah, because we all know that power would never, ever be abused.mvscal wrote:It is the administration's position that the President has the inherent authority to conduct foreign intelligence intercepts without reference to FISA courts. Nor is the claim without precedent.
The administration did an about face on this one because they knew it likely would be struck down by the SC as a violation of the 1978 eavesdropping statute, imo. There's a reason for the FISA court. Doing an end run simply "because they can" is horseshit.
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Especially when Ed Meese occupied it.Jsc810 wrote:Yeah, except it is held by the Attorney General of the United States of America. The weight of that office is huge.XXXL wrote:Far fetched idea, can't see it holding water. An off the wall opinion in my opinion.......
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Why do you hate America RF?RadioFan wrote:Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?
There is no such thing as the wrong skank. There may be good skanks (those who experience my pleasure proficiencies) and bad skanks (those unfortunate ones who have yet to experience the Dinsmachine or dumb enough to say “No” (not many of them btw)).
I can further categorize skanks by what they do in bed (or the kitchen table, stairs, back of the Subaru, bar stool, bathroom in bar, etc), but you wouldn’t really get the whole greatness of the sexual experience that is the U&R. [Dinzclone]One time at my friends bar down by the Ocean (that big body of water that helps provide us with the greatest weather on the planet, salmon the size of cougars and a drowning place for Cali transplants) this skank picked me up (literally picked up off the bathroom floor where I had passed out from a combination of things that would kill most of you) and hoisted me in the stall (turns out it was the Ladies Room, just my luck) and fucked the shit right outta me. I came and shat at the same time, good thing I was sitting on the crapper when she rode my tower of terror or this story might have been a little embarrassing. Anyway, she would be categorized as a
So yea, I’m all that and a bag of the best fucking potato chips you’ve ever had (courtesy of the U&L).
Carry on showing your complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.
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Rack.The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:Why do you hate America RF?RadioFan wrote:Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?
There is no such thing as the wrong skank. There may be good skanks (those who experience my pleasure proficiencies) and bad skanks (those unfortunate ones who have yet to experience the Dinsmachine or dumb enough to say “No” (not many of them btw)).
I can further categorize skanks by what they do in bed (or the kitchen table, stairs, back of the Subaru, bar stool, bathroom in bar, etc), but you wouldn’t really get the whole greatness of the sexual experience that is the U&R. [Dinzclone]One time at my friends bar down by the Ocean (that big body of water that helps provide us with the greatest weather on the planet, salmon the size of cougars and a drowning place for Cali transplants) this skank picked me up (literally picked up off the bathroom floor where I had passed out from a combination of things that would kill most of you) and hoisted me in the stall (turns out it was the Ladies Room, just my luck) and fucked the shit right outta me. I came and shat at the same time, good thing I was sitting on the crapper when she rode my tower of terror or this story might have been a little embarrassing. Anyway, she would be categorized as aGoodBad (in a good way) skank. Get it yet?
So yea, I’m all that and a bag of the best fucking potato chips you’ve ever had (courtesy of the U&L).
Carry on showing your complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.
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The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:Why do you hate America RF?RadioFan wrote:Damn Dins, wake up with the wrong skank this morning?
There is no such thing as the wrong skank. There may be good skanks (those who experience my pleasure proficiencies) and bad skanks (those unfortunate ones who have yet to experience the Dinsmachine or dumb enough to say “No” (not many of them btw)).
I can further categorize skanks by what they do in bed (or the kitchen table, stairs, back of the Subaru, bar stool, bathroom in bar, etc), but you wouldn’t really get the whole greatness of the sexual experience that is the U&R. [Dinzclone]One time at my friends bar down by the Ocean (that big body of water that helps provide us with the greatest weather on the planet, salmon the size of cougars and a drowning place for Cali transplants) this skank picked me up (literally picked up off the bathroom floor where I had passed out from a combination of things that would kill most of you) and hoisted me in the stall (turns out it was the Ladies Room, just my luck) and fucked the shit right outta me. I came and shat at the same time, good thing I was sitting on the crapper when she rode my tower of terror or this story might have been a little embarrassing. Anyway, she would be categorized as aGoodBad (in a good way) skank. Get it yet?
So yea, I’m all that and a bag of the best fucking potato chips you’ve ever had (courtesy of the U&L).
Carry on showing your complete and utter ignorance of the topic at hand.
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