Steelers New Coach Tomlin

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:55 pm

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/f ... index.html

Wow.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:17 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2732197

Tomlin DENIES report.........

Interesting.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:59 am

Looks like someone at SI jumped the gun.

I don't know much about Tomlin except that he's done an excellent job wherever he's been. If he does get the job, I won't be unhappy at all.

Mile-Hi T · Post by **Mile-Hi T** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:24 am

SI just reported that Al Davis has just sold his jumpsuit to KC Paul for a case of slimfast and a DQ coupon.
Believe that one!

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:44 pm

Multiple outlets are now reporting Tomlin has the job. I like the hire. Hiring young D coordinators has worked out well for the Steelers.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:20 pm

BSmack wrote:I like the hire.

Don't know much about the man... but...

It's gotta be a better move than retrieving Gailey from the scrap heap.... The Cardinals playoff winless streak would be at 60 years and counting were it not for this loser.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:53 pm

BSmack wrote:Multiple outlets are now reporting Tomlin has the job. I like the hire. Hiring young D coordinators has worked out well for the Steelers.

The hire makes me nervous.
The Stiller's D under Cowhers tenure was usually pretty good, sometimes VERY good. Rarely were they poor. This was using the 3-4. Tomlin will most assuredly switch it to the 4-3 and say good-bye to Lebeau.

Yeah, I'm reeeeeal comfortable with the hire.

Further, Grimm will assuredly leave. At a time when the Stiller's O-line is aging and new blood will have to be brought in at some point, the departure of Grimm is even more noteworthy. As a matter of fact, it pretty much sucks. Yes, Grimm would have been the HC but would surely have tossed his valuable $.02 in.

I hope to hell I'm proven wrong, but as far as I can tell, this sucks.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:03 pm

I am not finding anything definitive. Wait a minute http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16723895/

There it is.

Maybe Russ Grimm will come home.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:25 pm

Ken wrote:
BSmack wrote:Multiple outlets are now reporting Tomlin has the job. I like the hire. Hiring young D coordinators has worked out well for the Steelers.
The hire makes me nervous.
The Stiller's D under Cowhers tenure was usually pretty good, sometimes VERY good. Rarely were they poor. This was using the 3-4. Tomlin will most assuredly switch it to the 4-3 and say good-bye to Lebeau.

The Post Gazzette is reporting that Tomlin will keep LeBeau.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07022/755916-66.stm

IMO, the Steelers do not have the personnel on hand to run a 4-3 Cover 2 defense. That Tomlin also appears to recognize this bodes well for the Steelers.

Yeah, I'm reeeeeal comfortable with the hire.

Further, Grimm will assuredly leave. At a time when the Stiller's O-line is aging and new blood will have to be brought in at some point, the departure of Grimm is even more noteworthy. As a matter of fact, it pretty much sucks. Yes, Grimm would have been the HC but would surely have tossed his valuable $.02 in.

I hope to hell I'm proven wrong, but as far as I can tell, this sucks.

The press conference is in 1 hour. I think we'll have a whole lot more to go on by then.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:23 pm

The biggest headline in all of this is the loss of Grimm. Retaining LeBeau is key...but we'll mis Grimm BADLY.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:27 pm

Didnt the Viking defense stink last year?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:45 pm

I hope there's room for Grimm in Washington's organization. He was a class guy. It would mean a lot to white people everywhere if he could coach for the team he used to play for in some capacity.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:48 pm

The Assassin wrote:Didnt the Viking defense stink last year?

Minnesota ranked 8th overall last year and gave up the least amount of rushing yards. Tomlin is a solid hire. I guess the Boys will be left with scraps to choose from.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:57 pm

I wasn't referring to race relations. Oops I did say "white people everywhere", I meant "everywhere in Dan Snyder's booth at Fed Ex field".

Yeah, Grimm, might actually help grow some depth and stability in the O-Line.

He was and is a CLASS guy. I hope P'burgh's loss is our gain.

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:52 pm

PSUFAN wrote:The biggest headline in all of this is the loss of Grimm. Retaining LeBeau is key...but we'll mis Grimm BADLY.

Losing Grimm as an assistant coach may hurt, but not nearly as bad as it would have hurt to give him the HC job. If the day ever does come where some team is dumb enough to hire Grimm as a HC he'll be an absolute train wreck. I know this Bengals fan was hoping like hell that Grimm got the job.

Tomlin, who knows. I'm just playing the odds that the organization can't hit a HR for a third straight time with their coaching hire!!!

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:23 pm

Heard Tomlin interviewed on Mike & Mike this morning...said all the right things. Sounds like a good guy. Even though the guy coached in my division, I don't know a thing about him after just one season with the Vikings. He sounds like he's got the same energy and zest for the game that Cowher did when he first started. Seems like this was a good hire but we'll see how this team performs to give us a true indication of his coaching ability.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:47 pm

mvscal wrote:Who cares? He's black.

:D

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:49 pm

mvscal wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
mvscal wrote:Who cares? He's black.
Serious question: what the HELL is the matter with you?
Certainly you aren't stupid enough to believe that he was hired for any other reason?

Oh..wait, nevermind.

They had a chance to hire a far more popular black candidate (Joe Greene) 15 years ago and passed on him for Cowher. What makes you think this is any different? The last 4 Steelers coaches have all been defensive coordinators in their mid 30s. Tomlin fits that profile perfectly.

IMO, Tomlin was chosen the nanosecond it became apparent that Rivera wouldn't be available until Feb 6th. Otherwise they would have given Rivera a chance to make his case.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:23 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:They had a chance to hire a far more popular black candidate (Joe Greene) 15 years ago
15 years ago the "Rooney Rule" wasn't in place. Rooney had no choice. He had to hire a jungle bunny even if he doesn't fit the system.

Yea, cause we all know NFL owners got where they are by caving into non existent pressure. I've been following this coaching search as much as anybody and I have yet to see any kind of pressure applied to the Rooneys on this "issue". Never mind that I've already told you that Tomlin fits the Noll/Cowher profile perfectly.

BTW: You do know that the "Tampa 2" is nothing more than Bud Carson's old Steel Curtain defense? You did know that? Right?

Can't get much more Pittsburgh than that.

I suppose it never dawned on you that the Rooneys could see a time when LeBeau would retire (he is pushing 70) and were looking for a graceful way to migrate away from 100% reliance on the 3-4?

But no, that wouldn't make sense. Let's just drop that old race card.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:34 pm

So what you're saying is that you have nothing to back up your claim save your insistence that the Rooney Rule somehow boxed an owner notorious for not giving into to public opinion into a corner where, despite nothing in the way of public outcry in any way, shape or form, he was forced to hire a candidate he believed to be inferior just to stave off a non existent public outcry.

That's one hell of a tin foil hat you're wearing. Yo get that at WalMart?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:52 pm

mvscal wrote:This is Rooney's first head coaching hire after the adoption of the stupid rule bearing his name. Had he not hired a coon, he would have been ripped (quite rightly) by everyone even remotely connected to the game for being a pathetic hypocrite.

They did two weeks worth of due diligence on Tomlin. If they thought he wasn't the guy, they could have hired Grimm or Rivera without nary a peep from the peanut gallery. Rivera was a minority interview as well. And Grimm had the backing of a whole lot of players, many of them African American. Had they hired Grimm, they would have only needed to trot out one player after another to shut up the critics. Never mind that the Pittsburgh media loves Grimm and would have been more than happy to provide any cover needed.

Seriously mv, I know more about the Steelers than you do.

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:03 pm

BSmack wrote: Seriously mv, I know more about the Steelers than you do.

I could say that most all of us know more about anything and everything than mv does...

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:56 pm

quacker backer wrote:
BSmack wrote: Seriously mv, I know more about the Steelers than you do.
I could say that most all of us know more about anything and everything than mv does...

You could say that, and in so doing you could confirm what a total dumbfuck you are. I don’t always agree with his opinions or positions, but from what I’ve seen over the years on various boards, the dude knows more than you about virtually any subject you can name that doesn’t involve male on male sex. Stupid fucktard.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:51 pm

mvscal wrote: Tomlin's (no better than "OK") qualifications are quite clearly secondary to the fact that he is black.

I'm sure Rooney turned over the future of an NFL franchise that's worth $700 million plus just to be politically correct.....

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:01 pm

Well he did admit that Tomlin was a long shot when the process started. How does a guy go from a long shot to a head coach when there are more qualified candidates available, especially one whom BSmack admitted had the backing of a lot of players on the team?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:09 pm

Whether mvscal is right or wrong, he makes sense.

Would look kind of odd if the head of the league's diversity committee didn't hire a black coach. He can't cower behind Cowher and since he's making rules like this.

I think somebody's got something on Rooney.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:19 am

Tom In VA wrote:Whether mvscal is right or wrong, he makes sense.

It only makes sense if you know next to nothing about how the Steelers do their business.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:06 am

mvscal wrote:The Squealers are no different than any other team in that respect.

Your owner hired a token. Deal with it.

Ummmmmm.......RACK?

DID STEELERS YANK RUG FROM GRIMM?

As the media continues to try to understand the process that resulted in conflicting reports regarding whether the Steelers would hire Mike Tomlin or Russ Grimm to be the team's next head coach, the hot rumor at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama (where various league types currently are gathered) is that Grimm was indeed offered the job before it went to Tomlin.

As the story goes, the Steelers called Grimm on Saturday and told him not to believe what the media was reporting about Tomlin. Then, the Steelers and Grimm negotiated a contract, and Grimm was told that he could tell his family that he was the guy, which he did.

But then, as the story goes, Commissioner Roger Goodell got involved and suggested to Steelers chairman Dan Rooney that it would be nice if the Steeler would hire one of the minority candidates, given that the Rooney Rule was named after him. Rooney relented.

On Sunday morning, Rooney met with Art II and Kevin Colbert and told them about the decision. Both initially disagreed because a deal had been done with Grimm. But the contract hadn't been signed, and Art II and Colbert deferred to Dan.

Grimm was then told about the decision, and he was obviously pissed. But, to date, he has been discreet regarding his displeasure, presumably because he plans to continue working in the industry that has only 32 job locations. Tomlin was then called on Sunday afternoon, and he was informed that he was the guy.

One source told us that he has been hearing this rumor "all day" in Alabama. Though we're not saying that any of this actually happened, the mere fact that this story is making the rounds at the Senior Bowl is newsworthy, in our opinion.

Especially since the events that transpired on Saturday night and Sunday were so damn bizarre.

Meanwhile, a reader tells us that Mike Prisuta of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has been insisting in radio appearances that his story linking Grimm to the job was on the money. Though we poked fun at Prisuta's predicament on Sunday, it could be that he was right, after all.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Christ. Tell me this is a joke..........Rooney and his "rule" can eat a fucking dick.

Here's an novel idea: How about hiring who the fuck you want when you want to if you own the team.

Crazy talk, I know.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:37 am

Raydah James wrote:But then, as the story goes, Commissioner Roger Goodell got involved and suggested to Steelers chairman Dan Rooney that it would be nice if the Steeler would hire one of the minority candidates, given that the Rooney Rule was named after him. Rooney relented.

That strikes me as very odd considering Goodell owes his job to Dan Rooney.

Qbert · Post by **Qbert** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:48 am

So...we have THIS Story, Russ Grimm joining Wisenhunt in Phoenix and the Stoolerz hiring Bruce Arians as OC...

Arians = teh SUCK!

c'mon Bri'....you remember Arians as the BROWNS OC....don't you????

4 days ago; the future was looking BRIGHT for the Stoolerz...now things are looking Grim?

Best of Luck Coach Tomlin...heard you on Mike and Mike this morning (like Shoalze)...you sound pretty impressive!

I truthfully hope that this story is not True...BUT, that really doesn't matter...'cuz the PRECEPTION will ALWAYS Be There. SUX for you.

RACK Jaymes on the FIND....gotta RACK mvscal too.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:55 am

Qbert wrote:So...we have THIS Story, Russ Grimm joining Wisenhunt in Phoenix and the Stoolerz hiring Bruce Arians as OC...

Arians = teh SUCK!

c'mon Bri'....you remember Arians as the BROWNS OC....don't you????

I remember Arians working with a whole bunch of shit players in Cleveland. Obviously he'll have better talent to work with in Pittsburgh. :wink:

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:07 am

See now is where Grimm, if he was so inclined could suggest RACIAL. Most ignorant people call it "reverse discrimination" but that is a misnomer. One either discriminates based on race or one does not. It seems clear ........ Rooney did .....

Or did he ?

Qbert · Post by **Qbert** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:10 am

Heh...no Bri'--->he SUCKS!

(nevermind the 429 yd. passing game from Kelly Holcomb vs. YOU in the Playoffs....fucking Dennis Northcutt)

Qbert · Post by **Qbert** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:20 am

Tom In VA wrote:See now is where Grimm, if he was so inclined could suggest RACIAL. Most ignorant people call it "reverse discrimination" but that is a misnomer. One either discriminates based on race or one does not. It seems clear ........ Rooney did .....

Or did he ?

The HBJ is GIFTED...in turning a misnomer into a Watch! (i see you working here....i'll RACK IT! I've gotta say...HBJ has been BUTTER for about 5 days straight...Dude is flat out ROLLING....)

this will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Grimm got screwed (at 1st Glance); StoolerFAN and StoolerPLAYERS got screwed (at 1st Glance).

its a helluva way for Tomlin to Start his HC career.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:25 am

jiminphilly wrote:Well he did admit that Tomlin was a long shot when the process started. How does a guy go from a long shot to a head coach when there are more qualified candidates available, especially one whom BSmack admitted had the backing of a lot of players on the team?

Who knows? Maybe they're setting him up for spectacular failure.

Parcells might be available next year.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:35 am

Everyone knows Rooney has been compensating for the (probably erroneous) claim that his father's organization was "racist". He's taken every possible opportunity to do so over the years.

The other part of it is, they seem to like to start somewhat fresh when they hire a coach. Cowher was an unheralded hire that had Burghers scratching their heads; this is similar.

Myself, I will wait to see what happens. Cowher was a good coach because he worked for good people who were hesitant to fire guys, and because he was able to assemble great assistants, and because he was an emotional leader.

None of us know that Tomlin isn't up to the job. Rack the Rooneys for making a bold move, rather than the move dictated by prevailing "wisdom".

Qbert · Post by **Qbert** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:43 am

sure!

and Cowher can come back to the BROWNS too!

the STOOLERZ didn't set Tomlin up....Wags.....they're just helping him over the Fence.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:51 pm

PSUFAN wrote: Rack the Rooneys for making a bold move, rather than the move dictated by prevailing "wisdom".

So you don't think Roger Goodall had any influence in this hire?

Shine · Post by **Shine** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:31 pm

Qbert wrote:Grimm got screwed (at 1st Glance); StoolerFAN and StoolerPLAYERS got screwed (at 1st Glance).

Actually StoolerFAN got lucky and the fans of the other AFC North teams, myself included, got screwed. Grimm would have been an unmitigated disaster as a HC.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:49 pm

jiminphilly wrote:
PSUFAN wrote: Rack the Rooneys for making a bold move, rather than the move dictated by prevailing "wisdom".
So you don't think Roger Goodall had any influence in this hire?

I seriously doubt it. Like I said before, Goodell owes his job to Rooney.