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88 wrote:Mike-

I'm curious what your take is on the Global Warming issue. You seem like a level headed guy with a good understanding of science.
Thanks.

My problem is that the vast majority of the science/data debated in the anthropogenic global warming debate falls into the category of "Earth Science," which is not one of those areas in which I'm well-read. Basically, I know enough to know ....that I don't know enough to intelligently take sides/debate on this issue.

What doesn't help is that folks who DO take a stand almost always have political baggage they bring with them. Conservatives tend to completely dismiss human activity as a contributor and/or the doomsday scenarios , while liberals tend to not only fully blame human activity but also recommend pretty drastic measures that almost inevitably come off as yet another anti-American tirade. It's impossible for me to separate the messages from the messengers.

In order to analyze the data and come to an educated, politically unbiased stand, I'd have to actually educate myself on the earth science background material in order to have my "bullshit detector" able to sift through the scientific papers, while also having the time to "follow the money" and see who is paying for the reports on both sides of the debate. It's a tall order. There are a hell of a lot of people on this (and other) boards, on TV, in barrooms, who pick up their science knowledge by mixing what little they remembered from HS/college with utter crap they read on the 'net (e.g., creationist/ID supporters). My science background is biology - I know that, and so do the folks here. My opinions outside that field, going into earth science, would just be more noise among the static.

In my bio classes, all we are required to teach regarding the topic is what "global warming" as a general term means, what greenhouse gases are, how they work, and discuss how they are generated naturally and by man. We are neither encouraged nor discouraged from stating that "humans are at fault." Since I know that I don't know enough to start indoctrinating kids, I teach them what I am required to and encourage them to go educate themselves further (along with the caveats about following the money, political bias, etc.).

FWIW, our earth science teacher (who is actually a physicist being ame to teach ES) doesn't buy the anthropogenic global warming argument.
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I'm reasonably sure that if mikey parks his v-10 1 ton monster truck and drains his hot tub, all our worries will be over.
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Mike the Lab Rat wrote:
Mikey wrote:Air is not a solution.

It's a homogenous mixture of several gases.
Actually, a solution (in chemistry), is defined as a homogeneous mixture of two or more substances. "Air" is commonly cited as an example of a gaseous solution.

(BTW....I also teach chemistry, in addition to bio/AP bio....)
Then what's the solvent and the solute?
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Mikey wrote:
Mike the Lab Rat wrote:
Mikey wrote:Air is not a solution.

It's a homogenous mixture of several gases.
Actually, a solution (in chemistry), is defined as a homogeneous mixture of two or more substances. "Air" is commonly cited as an example of a gaseous solution.

(BTW....I also teach chemistry, in addition to bio/AP bio....)
Then what's the solvent and the solute?
Basically, the reagent that undergoes a change in state (e.g., liquid to gas) when it forms a solution is the solute.

If none of the reagents change states (e.g., they are all normally gases at STP), whichever reagent is present in the smallest amount is declared the solute. That'd make nitrogen the solvent in our atmosphere, while oxygen and the other piddling amounts of various gases the solutes.
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yeah, but, if we don't listen to algore, CO2 will be the solvent in like a few years.
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Well, I guess I learned something today...
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Mikey wrote:Well, I guess I learned something today...
Nice Try,

I ain't buying it.
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I'm not feeling well today (came home with a 103 degree temp on Thursday and have been in bed since).

Just not up to pulling a Dinsdale right now.
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Mikey wrote:I'm not feeling well today (came home with a 103 degree temp on Thursday and have been in bed since).

Just not up to pulling a Dinsdale right now.
Sorry to hear your under the weather...

Remember to learn this handy hint that even Dinsdale doesn't know of..

Feed the Cold and starve the Fever and you'll get better xtra quick.

Start that right now and you'll be ready for work in the Morning,

Get well soon.
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Thanks for the good wishes.

I've been starving this one out of necessity since Thursday. This bug included abdominal cramps and dysentery. I just started back on some bland solid foods today. Good way to lose some weight, I guess. I may be ready to work in the morning.

Normally I hate the taste of Gatorade, but there are certain times when some of that green stuff over ice is like nectar of the gods and GODs.
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sounds to me like your CO2 level may be elevated, mikey.
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Gastroenteritis is a bitch. That SOB made not one but TWO swings through our area.

The first round was around Thanksgiving, and we had students dropping like flies, soon to be followed by many of the teachers (me included).

The second round hit right near Christmas/New Year's and is still lingering with some folks. Earlier this week, our two-year-old was literally filling his diapers with "liqui-shit" two or three times an hour. Just kept pumping the Pedialyte/Gator-Ade down his gullet and "double-bagging" his diaper situation until things fixed themselves after two days.

Toss in the lung infections, strep, pneumonia, and various other bugs that have been hitting folks around here since about October, and this is the worst season I've seen for illnesses in a long time. Paranoid freaks might try to read something into it...I just figure that conditions just happened to be conducive for several cyclic pathogens to have their fun with us lately.
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I had the puking version two weeks ago and the "#2" version this weekend. I don't think it could be a relapse, but who knows.

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Mike the Lab Rat wrote:G Earlier this week, our two-year-old was literally filling his diapers with "liqui-shit" two or three times an hour. Just kept pumping the Pedialyte/Gator-Ade down his gullet and "double-bagging" his diaper situation until things fixed themselves after two days.
Oh man, I feel for you. My two year old came in my room at 0100 Saturday morning saying,"mommy, tummy...tummy". Next thing you know I have puke on my chest up to my neck. The hard thing is not to puke also while cleaning up, and no, I didn't pass the test. :x

Poor little bugger is down with a 101 temp and shitting his little brains out.
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Jerkovich wrote:Oh man, I feel for you. My two year old came in my room at 0100 Saturday morning saying,"mommy, tummy...tummy".
Your two-year-old calls you "mommy"? What a shocker. BTW, does he call the reindeer "grandpa"?

Jerkovich wrote:Poor little bugger is down with a 101 temp and shitting his little brains out.
Shit for brains. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree much?
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Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Gastroenteritis is a bitch. That SOB made not one but TWO swings through our area.

The first round was around Thanksgiving, and we had students dropping like flies, soon to be followed by many of the teachers (me included).

The second round hit right near Christmas/New Year's and is still lingering with some folks. Earlier this week, our two-year-old was literally filling his diapers with "liqui-shit" two or three times an hour. Just kept pumping the Pedialyte/Gator-Ade down his gullet and "double-bagging" his diaper situation until things fixed themselves after two days.
I hear you. My 8-year-old missed a day of school last week when he woke up and started throwing up out of the blue. Things fixed themselves, but apparently not before he managed to pass it on to me. This weekend I spent most of Saturday in the bathroom with pretty severe diarrhea. I kept pumping water and Immodium all weekend, and I haven't now had an episode since yesterday morning. Somehow I managed to get out of the house to take the kids sledding because they wanted to go, but after an hour or so, I had had about as much as I could tolerate.

I made it into work today, but pretty much forced myself to go because I have a hearing scheduled at 2:00. Otherwise I probably would have called in sick.
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88 wrote:Why do you need beaurocrats from 154 countries to edit a scientific report?
It's got somethin' to do with the metric system.
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Jerkovich wrote:
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I don't get it.
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Jerkovich wrote:Oh man, I feel for you. My two year old came in my room at 0100 Saturday morning saying,"mommy, tummy...tummy".
Your two-year-old calls you "mommy"? What a shocker. BTW, does he call the reindeer "grandpa"?

Jerkovich wrote:Poor little bugger is down with a 101 temp and shitting his little brains out.
Shit for brains. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree much?
Fucking Rack!
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GoovingManTube wrote:ImageYAP YAP YAPYA
One trick mutt.
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Jerkovich wrote:
GoovingManTube wrote:ImageYAP YAP YAPYA
One trick mutt.

This sucks even more now that you've reset your mysterious post with horrible Nic Smack, some lame sounds effects for the dog, and an explanation as to what in the fuck your post meant.


At least before... you could have claimed you attached the wrong image.... or something. Being an inept smacker is one thing, but going into minute details as to the exent of your ineptness is something altogether different.


Wow. Just... wow.
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Can we please get back to the subject at hand...shitting and puking?

TIA
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The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:Oh man, I feel for you. My two year old came in my room at 0100 Saturday morning saying,"mommy, tummy...tummy".
Your two-year-old calls you "mommy"? What a shocker. BTW, does he call the reindeer "grandpa"?

Jerkovich wrote:Poor little bugger is down with a 101 temp and shitting his little brains out.
Shit for brains. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree much?
Fucking Rack!
You racked that ? For real or were you being facetious ?


Talk about a thread turning to shit.
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Tom In VA wrote:You racked that ? For real or were you being facetious ?
What causes all this diet ? Or genetics ?
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I didn't have the shits until I read this thread.


Shit's contagious.


Vomitting and diarhea at the same time, suck, but only slightly more than "Oh yeah, well I saw some trolls run you a few years ago around Christmas, so there" smack.
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Sounds like a whole buncha norovirus going around.

Do a little reseasrch, and see how that shit is spread...and then see why it just reiforces why I think you're all a bunch of very disgusting people.


And RACK Goobs for taking some Mark McGwiresque BP upside a certain dome.
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Doctor, rocket scientist, carpenter, musician, athlete, lover, is there anything Dins doesn't do ? Besides tell the truth ?
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Tom In VA wrote:is there anything Dins doesn't do ?

Yeah, I can think of at least one...

I do my best to not EAT HUMAN FECES.

Which apparently puts me head and shoulders above many in this thread.


Mix in a little soap and sanitation, you nasty fucking people.
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Dinsdale wrote: I do my best to not EAT HUMAN FECES.
Keep trying, you might succeed one day.
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Uhm, Tom...

As badly as you want to get over on...anyone not named "Tom"...


I'm not the one coming in here crying about catching an illness that's caused by --
The Center For Disease Control wrote:Noroviruses are transmitted primarily through the fecal-oral route, either by consumption of fecally contaminated food or water or by direct person-to-person spread

So, you see, Tom-who-is-challenged-on-a-daily-basis-by-common-sense, while you in a roundabout way accused me of being a "shit-eater," in what could best be described as "I know you are, but what am I" smack gone bad...

now, see if you can follow along, oh-mentally-challenged-one...


I'M not the one running in here fully admitting to catching a virus that's spread by...

EATING HUMAN SHIT.


Maybe you can read through this a couple of times, and study what just happened. And maybe, just maybe, you can learn a couple of lessons -- A) The importance of cleanliness and proper santation, and B) How not to kick your own ass.


Have a nice day, Tom, and try to not suck any dicks on your way to the parking lot...or eat any shit...LIKE SOME OF THE POSTERS HERE ADMIT TO.
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Dinsdale wrote:Don't forget me, the pivot man.
How could I ? Best pivot man on these boards.
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"Pivot man"?

That's where you're mistaken, my friend.

I'm quite clearly a "scorer."

Don't believe me?

Ask your mom.
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Dinsdale wrote:Ask your mom.
Stale mom smack ? You might just get the chip today Dins.
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Tom In VA wrote:Stale mom smack ?
Well, Tom... she is in dire need of some freshening up. Maybe you could buy the whore a douche for her birthday?
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ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Tom In VA wrote:Stale mom smack ?
Well, Tom... she is in dire need of some freshening up. Maybe you could buy the whore a douche for her birthday?

Well whatever, I'm not creative enough to smack other people's mothers especially when they post something like ....

One of my parents beat cancer. The other succumbed to it. I don't wish either experience upon anyone. It's a long, painful struggle... no matter the outcome. My mom has been in remission for 6 years now. She's often said, she'll never go through it again. I think once they reach their late 50s/early 60s in age... the hardest part is imposing your will upon a loved one... to live. When you're younger, you'll find reasons to fight for your own life. Once you get older, you need a helping hand.


God bless everyone and their family/friends who's had to deal with this horrible disease. God bless you, Cueball.
That's just not the way I roll.

So I suppose I've been smacked by Dins and the various remora that hang about his nutsack.

Props.
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I don’t remember Hillbilly Jim being such a whiny little cunt. Might be time to abandon the Tom I’m a VAgina nic. Jeebus, how many of the guys on this board have drilled your mom, anyway?
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Sage advice Goobs.

As for the number of guys that have drilled my mom ? Probably the same number of guys that drilled your dad ....

There I did it, what do I win ? Am I a member of the "Internet Tough Guy Club" now ?
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Just so long as it wasn’t the same guys. I’d like to think he could do better that Dinsdale or ucant. Even at age 77. And no, you’re still a member of the Internet Dullard Club.
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Goober McTuber wrote:And no, you’re still a member of the Internet Dullard Club.
Great job. You actually tried to run some of your own smack. Good one Goobs. Next week, maybe we'll take the training wheels off.
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