The better band: Boston or...

[Dinsdale]

Somewhere in my record collection I have the Japanese import single "Immigrant Song"/ "Hey Hey What Can I Do". I need to find that thing and properly display it in the new house.

I have one from what was allegedly the very last case of those records produced. That was probably in 1983 or 1984...somewhere in there. And I've never opened it -- still in the original wrapper(plus a cardboard backer).


I think I've got some other cool Zep memorabilia somewhere, but can't remember what.

I remember in high school, one of my buddies had one of the original English pressings of Zep III, with all of the Alistair Crowly dedications on it.

But I think they flew under the mainstream (commercial) radar for some time before everyone became aware of them.

Wow...what an amazingly retarded statement.


Hey...how long did that MONSTER BLAST from the Beatles known as Abbey Road...released when the Beatles could truly do no wrong...how long was it in the Billboard #1 spot again?

Two weeks, maybe? Right up until Led Zep released their second album?(Even after the first one was somewhat underpromoted)

What other garthocks of that era got a super-popular album of theirs knocked out of the #1 spot by Zep? Elvis Fucking Presley, maybe?


What album was most frequently shipped to troops in Vietnam in the 60's? The Brown Bomber(that'd be ZepII), maybe?



Unbelievably ignorant statement.

[Headhunter]

I think what Wags meant was ...


They had to become the worlds most popular touring band and a sales (commercial) juggernaut before the media quit dogging them.

[War Wagon]

What album was most frequently shipped to troops in Vietnam in the 60's? The Brown Bomber(that'd be ZepII), maybe?

Being as how Zep II wasn't even released until late 1969, that might not be true.

But your point is taken.

Too me, they flew under the "mainstream" radar, because I was too young to really know much about them until later. Back then, we were lucky to have an FM rock station. At the time Zep was first blowing it up, they were still playing bubble gum music on the local AM radio stations and that's all we had. Anyone remember "Chewy, Chewy", ugh... that's what was passing for mainstream music in the early 70's.

But I'll bet you were just all over that scene in 1969, weren't you Dins?

[Mister Bushice]

Commercial is way too subjective a term.

And 'relevant' isn't? I'd love for you to define what 'relevant' music is.

Probably the wrong word to use. What I meant was that the music didn't sound outdated, couldn't really be pidgeonholed into an era or a particular sound, like the lyrics / music of the psychedelic era, or the grunge sound, the 5 boy bands, or the formulaic hair band era. Most of that stuff lasted only as long as the trend did, and then it was gone, never to be listened to again, or at least it shouldn't be. :)

There just aren't that many bands who have transcended their time to where you could listen to their music 20-30 years down the road and not say "listen to these oldies"

[War Wagon]

I think what Wags meant was ...

Actually HH, my main point was in response to Bushice's question if they were "commercialized", to which my response is no. It seems to me that Zep didn't give a flying rats ass what anybody else thought of their music, especially the media or the record labels.

I'm sure Dins will sternly correct me if that's wrong though.

[Goober McTuber]

Anyone remember "Chewy, Chewy", ugh... that's what was passing for mainstream music in the early 70's.

But I'll bet you were just all over that scene in 1969, weren't you Dins?

"Chewy, Chewy" was 1968. Close, though.

[Dinsdale]

That'll RACK.

[Jay in Phoenix]

May god (or whoever) forgive me, but RACK mvscal.

I'll atone later, I'm too busy laughing now.

Bastard.

[Mister Bushice]

I think what Wags meant was ...

Actually HH, my main point was in response to Bushice's question if they were "commercialized", to which my response is no..

They may not have intended to be commercial, but they became so to a certain extent anyway. "Stairway to Heaven", "Hey hey what can I do" out front should a told ya.

[Mister Bushice]

stands in stark contrast to the ground breaking innovations brought to the table by Boston.

Fuckin A right. Delp had a back up suicide system in place in case the barbecue didn't work, complete with warning signs posted for anyone who went inside the house.

Dude had some planning skills. Take notes, Todd. Learn from the experts.

[Raydah James]

Throw another RACK on the flame for MV

[Tom In VA]

Yeah that was brilliant mvscal.

RACK

[Tom In VA]

That'll RACK.

I know...leave it to Mvscal.


Doesn't he just remind you of a case hardened homocide detective that can eat a piece of cold mousakka pizza while using a pen to seperate brain tissue from the rements of a skull, while saying "He could've at least blown his brains into a trash bag so there'd be less of a mess to clean up.....the dumb bastard."

Kojak ?

[RadioFan]

You're saying that the country rock wave of the late 60's early/70's had nothing to do with country music?

Uh, no, dipshit, I'm not.

Even a lot of the psychedelc garage/early punk bands found ways to incorporate a few country numbers into their set list....if they didn't already arise out of being a country band in the first place.

Link?

[Dinsdale]

The original incarnation of the Dead was pretty much a banjo-pluckin' bluegrass band.

[Tom In VA]

The original incarnation of the Dead was pretty much a banjo-pluckin' bluegrass band.

The jug band thing or the Warlocks ? Either way, the most awesome thing about the Dead was how they incorporated so many styles and influences ... including country.


And


Western.

[Dinsdale]

No one who ever lived could transition so smoothly between so many different styles than Jerry.


Good players find a genre and stick to it. Great players couldn't care less about genres.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Either way, the most awesome thing about the Dead was how they incorporated so many styles and influences ... including country.

Whoa, that's far out.

Sin,

90% of the bands/soloists/artists in my cd collection

[Rack Fu]

Even a lot of the psychedelc garage/early punk bands found ways to incorporate a few country numbers into their set list....if they didn't already arise out of being a country band in the first place.

Link?

Neil Young in the first category and X in the second for one.

X was the first band I thought of when I read that.

RF, listen to X's live album at the Whiskey.

[RadioFan]

Wasn't that recorded in 1988?

And here's what I was addressing:

So I should just overlook all the different styles of country music... the honky tonk, the ballads, bluegrass, the trend in the of major bands of the late 60's/early 70's, all the vast influence it had on rock and roll.

My sentiment was that rock, several genres of it, were already established by the late 60s and 70s.

Obviously, some country has influenced certain rock 'n roll bands. But a "vast influence?" Compared to the influence of blues or the already-established genres themselves, that notion is laughable.

[RadioFan]

You just have a bone to pick against country music.

Hey, if country music helps you off yourself, I'm officially on record: I love it.

[RadioFan]

[RadioFan]

[RadioFan]

[RadioFan]

What's this...a shot

We can only hope.

[Rack Fu]

Wasn't that recorded in 1988?

And here's what I was addressing:

So I should just overlook all the different styles of country music... the honky tonk, the ballads, bluegrass, the trend in the of major bands of the late 60's/early 70's, all the vast influence it had on rock and roll.

My sentiment was that rock, several genres of it, were already established by the late 60s and 70s.

Obviously, some country has influenced certain rock 'n roll bands. But a "vast influence?" Compared to the influence of blues or the already-established genres themselves, that notion is laughable.

X did form in 1977 and had a rockabilly punk thing going from day one.

[War Wagon]

Merle Haggard

I was drunk the day I picked my mother home from prison...

Quite possibly the greatest single country lyric ever written, unless you're counting Hank Williams Jr's "Family Tradition".

[poptart]

I'm pretty sure Billy Ray Cypress wrote some genius lyric to top that.

I'll find it and post it.

[War Wagon]

Just for Radio Fan:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qVeBRYh2BVY

If'n that don't bring a tear to your eye and a smile to your face, I don't know what will. Broaden your horizons, homeboy.

[War Wagon]

I'm pretty sure Billy Ray Cypress wrote some genius lyric to top that.

I'll find it and post it.

It's Cyrus, 'tart. Billy Ray Cyrus.

Quit looking for Achky Breaky Heart, or I shall be forced to kill you graveyard dead.

[PSUFAN]

The minute George Harrison donned a fringe leather jacket in 1965, Rock & Roll "rediscovered" country.

Graham Parsons legitimized the deal.



^^ Graham's Achy-Breaky mod outfit

[BSmack]

I'm pretty sure Billy Ray Cypress wrote some genius lyric to top that.

I'll find it and post it.

It's Cyrus, 'tart. Billy Ray Cyrus.

Quit looking for Achky Breaky Heart, or I shall be forced to kill you graveyard dead.

He's from Houston. They name EVERYTHING ________ Cypress down there.

[Goober McTuber]

Merle Haggard

I was drunk the day I picked my mother home from prison...

Quite possibly the greatest single country lyric ever written, unless you're counting Hank Williams Jr's "Family Tradition".

Of course, Merle Haggard had nothing to do with it. It was written by Steve Goodman, and recorded by David Allan Coe.

Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got out of prison,
And I went to pick her up in the rain,
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck,
She got runned over by a damned old train.

[War Wagon]

Of course, Merle Haggard had nothing to do with it. It was written by Steve Goodman, and recorded by David Allan Coe.

Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got out of prison,
And I went to pick her up in the rain,
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck,
She got runned over by a damned old train.

Yeah, what Goobs said.

And I'll hang around as long as you will let me....

[Dinsdale]

David Allan Coe

She said some day I'd understand
what love was all about
she said I could have the kids
she was movin' out
she said she finally found a man
whos dick was so much bigger
the that scum bag mother fucker
ran off with a mvscal

And to think I ate the pussy
were that big black dick had been
and kissed the lips that sucked him off
time and time again
its enough to make a man throw up
it sure is hard to figure
how any decent girl could ever fuck a greasy mvscal

he treated her just like a Queen
she gave him all my money
it looks like the jokes on me
But I don't think its funny
that pussy ain't worth paying for
as far as I can figure
cause there is nothing quite as worthless
as a white girl with a mvscal

And to think I ate the pussy
where that big black dick had been
and kissed the lips that sucked him off
time and time again
its enough to make a man throw up
it sure is hard to figure how any decent girl
could ever fuck a god damn mvscal

So for all you mvscal lovin' whores
this song is just for you

[RadioFan]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qVeBRYh2BVY

Broaden your horizons, homeboy.

Yeah, I did so the last time I was flippin through TV channels.

Look, it's bad enough that TardOwen is still around, so unless you want to send me some premier mobile-homegrown shit, don't try to depress me any further, k?