Altman back to Creighton

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:57 pm

No link yet, but ESPNNEWS reported Altman is staying put.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:04 am

honestly, i didnt see why he would leave

he has #2 attendance in college basketball.

has a brand new arena

gets sleepr talent, and gets them to play.

plays in a good conference.

creigton will pay him. maybe bob gibson could give him some loot. sell that world series ring he just got tonight.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:39 am

poor piggie.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:41 am

Now they can refocus their efforts on Gillispie.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:41 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug ... &type=lgns

What a bitch move by Altman. Creighton oughta' tell him to fuck off right about now. Fucker shouldn't even be allowed to coach an AAU team after pulling this stunt.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:46 am

It happens, Wags. I don't consider it a bitch move, and I've seen this first-hand at Missouri State with Buzz Peterson (the would-be coach they had before Barry Hinson).

Yeah, you would have liked to see him make up his mind before accepting the job offer, but nothing's official until the name's on the dotted line.

Sales 101.

I'm sure the Arkansas faithful will curse Altman to the end of time (as Missouri State fans do Peterson), but I'd much rather see him do this early on than after a year or two. As for Creighton, they'll welcome him back with open arms, while the rest of the MVC will simply mutter, "dammit."

At least Hinson will be able to count on two or three losses next season.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:55 am

Bobby Cremins did it to S. Carolina IIRC. and in CFB, Glen Mason took the UCLA job, and reneged back to KU (only to take the Minny job a couple years later).

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:59 am

Not down, orc.

For christs sake, make a decision and stick with it. If you're not sure, don't decide. Do NOT lead on an entire teams fanbase only to pull the rug out. Don't make jilted lovers out of Creightons fans, and then expect to crawl back in bed with them.

Manhood 101.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:03 am

And I don't care how many prior coaches have done this and what their pedigree is, it doesn't make it right.

Two bit whores as far as I'm concerned.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:06 am

Unfortunately, that's life for the fan of the mid-major program. Successful coaches will always be courted away.

If I were Creighton fan, I'd actually feel even better about Altman now, knowing that he got an offer he was willing to take ... and then decided he was better off staying put.

Whatever your perception, it takes stones to turn away from the money and a bigger job in the spotlight. Call him what you will, but Altman got a chance to stare himself down in the mirror and admit a mistake before the papers were signed.

Rack him for coming correct and going with his gut over the cayshe. Looks like a bad PR move for certain, but all will be forgotten come fall.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:07 am

his wife probably said,"fuck no, i;m calling a divorce lawyer"

thus it was a family decesion.

when those rednecks packed the press conference cheering out soooo weeeee, i;m sure he realized his mistake.

no problem with what he did. your wife and kids are 1000000000 times more important than a game.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:11 am

orcinus wrote:Looks like a bad PR move for certain, but all will be forgotten come fall.

For real. Hell, I forgot I even posted this thread about 5 minutes after hitting submit.

Whitey, he certainly could've handled it better, but you're being a little extreme here. No contract was even signed.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:16 am

i'm citing other examples, that's all.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:33 am

Stan Heath has to be enjoying this. I'm glad he is doing that here in Tampa.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:07 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: I forgot I even posted this thread about 5 minutes after hitting submit.

Sure you did.

No contract was even signed.

Since when does a mans word mean less than his signature?

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:26 am

King Crimson wrote:Bobby Cremins did it to S. Carolina IIRC. and in CFB, Glen Mason took the UCLA job, and reneged back to KU (only to take the Minny job a couple years later).

I was just thinking, wasn't there another mid-major coach who did the same thing a year or two ago? The name escapes me...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:01 am

War Wagon wrote:Since when does a mans word mean less than his signature?

Since...I dunno, forever? Legal documents? Legislature? Contracts?

Stop being a dramatic little bitch about all this. Christ, it was 24 hours. ArkansasFan will get over it.

Go ahead and link me up to all the pissed off Creighton fans who feel like you, and don't want the guy back and I'll back off. When you're midmajorfan you better be damn well grateful a guy like this is coming back. He put their freaking program on the map, and you think they should throw him the brick wall? Hilarious. If anything, they should be thinking God and G0D he's coming back.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:21 am

A man is only as good as his word, Magoo.

I don't need or want your signature because obviously, they don't mean a damn thing. If a man can't be trusted by his word and a handshake, then how the hell are you supposed to trust him? By some scribbles on a piece of paper? Fuck that, and fuck any culture that accepts that.

Back off? Yeah, good idea. Maybe Altman shoulda' backed off before he opened his trap and verbally accepted the yob at a freaking pep rally.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:24 am

War Wagon wrote:A man is only as good as his word, Magoo.

And in big time college athletics, he's only as good as his track record.

Sorry to wake you up out your fairy tale dreamland.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:16 pm

The signature’s not worth much either, considering how often coaches bolt in the middle of their contracts. I can sympathize with the poor fucker, though, trying to decide whether to live in Omaha or Fayetteville.

Or maybe Altman took a look at what happened to Stan Heath and wised up.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug ... &type=lgns

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:41 pm

^^^^ Good read. I was at Stan Heath's press conference yesterday and he definitely has a chip on his shoulder. He's a great recruiter as well, which is something we desperately need.

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:20 pm

King Crimson wrote:and in CFB, Glen Mason took the UCLA job, and reneged back to KU (only to take the Minny job a couple years later).

It was the Georgia job.

You're thinking UCLA because it was KU vs. UCLA in the Aloha Bowl and Mason made the announcement that he was staying put to a sideline reporter before the game kicked off.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:04 pm

Don't know if any of you saw the whole presser of the Frank Broyles pep rally/announcement.
Of course we saw the entire /painfully uncomfortable, event.

But as God is my witness, I said, to no one listening, "Damn, he doesn't want to be there."

Next am at work, told my cronies the same. That evening dude's heading back to Omaha.

He looked like a pig out of mud, (much pun intended) Broyles feeding him hog gear, with the traditional pig hat, which Altman is just as quickly handing off to the misses. And the sooooooo piiiiiiggg was to Altman on par with having nose hairs yanked with greasy pliers. I've seen the guy a plenty, and the look on his face told it all.

He looked every bit the part of a yankee whose car broke down in an unfortunate Deliverance scene.
Hey, now that I think of it, maybe he was resetting Ned and the HillBilly right there on the podium.

Couldn't get on the next plane fast enough.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:29 am

Degenerate wrote:
King Crimson wrote:and in CFB, Glen Mason took the UCLA job, and reneged back to KU (only to take the Minny job a couple years later).
It was the Georgia job.

You're thinking UCLA because it was KU vs. UCLA in the Aloha Bowl and Mason made the announcement that he was staying put to a sideline reporter before the game kicked off.

is that right? fuckin a. my bad. i would have sworn up and down it was UCLA. i know we don't any UGA representation on the hoops board (or CFB) but i assume that was the year Donnan got the UGA job.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:30 am

MuchoBulls wrote:^^^^ Good read. I was at Stan Heath's press conference yesterday and he definitely has a chip on his shoulder. He's a great recruiter as well, which is something we desperately need.

i'm not a huge fan of Heath, but you guys came out of clusterfuck pretty good i think.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:43 am

Cornhusker wrote:Don't know if any of you saw the whole presser of the Frank Broyles pep rally/announcement.
Of course we saw the entire /painfully uncomfortable, event.

But as God is my witness, I said, to no one listening, "Damn, he doesn't want to be there."

Next am at work, told my cronies the same. That evening dude's heading back to Omaha.

He looked like a pig out of mud, (much pun intended) Broyles feeding him hog gear, with the traditional pig hat, which Altman is just as quickly handing off to the misses. And the sooooooo piiiiiiggg was to Altman on par with having nose hairs yanked with greasy pliers. I've seen the guy a plenty, and the look on his face told it all.

He looked every bit the part of a yankee whose car broke down in an unfortunate Deliverance scene.
Hey, now that I think of it, maybe he was resetting Ned and the HillBilly right there on the podium.

Couldn't get on the next plane fast enough.

I stand corrected. No amount of cayshe would be worth that.

Too bad he didn't have a heads up from somebody about what he was gettiing himself into.

Rack that take, Cornhusker.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:50 am

Actually, the word is he soured, in part, after learning several players on the team were in academic jeopardy.

soooooooooiiiiiieeeeee pig probably didn't help much, though. Wonder if his wife watched Deliverance the night before.

Either way, sucks for Barry.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:52 am

War Wagon wrote:
I stand corrected. No amount of cayshe would be worth that.

Too bad he didn't have a heads up from somebody about what he was gettiing himself into.

Rack that take, Cornhusker.

no doubt. it'd be like living at an interstate truck stop between the hours of 1 and 4 AM for the rest of your mortal life (and possibly afterwards). Eating slim jims and hot dogs on those rollers, curled up and wrinkled like a ball sack.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:54 am

Wait ... that's Wags' daily routine, already.

Tell me you knew.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:59 am

Lost on the turnpike guy says what?

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:38 am

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:54 am

ESPN's Kreidler article:
Informative read, and pretty much what Altman has always been about from everything you could possibly know of him and his family in 13 years here...well media wise.... Wilbur Neb. is a one horse town to be sure. (Pretty much 95% of Nebraska towns are I guess.)
I always hated when he was at K-State he'd beat NU. Nebraska kid and all. He's a damn good Xs & Os guy, but he'll never get the talent to get much farther than he already has at Creighton.
The good news has been the mur-murs from Manhatten how they f*cked up firing him after 2 NCAA appearences and 1 NIT in 4 years. Good for those purple bastards I say.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/s ... d=tab3pos2