Can anyone explain why Web sites look good on Mozilla

[KC Scott]

But fucked up on IE?

Damn...... just had to modify all the pages I built to get them all looking right on IE.

But since that;s what 90% of the world uses, had to do it.

Anyone else ever notice this?

[PSUFAN]

Web browsers and the way that they render things differently has often been the bane of the web developer's existence.

There are some workarounds and methods by which you can minimize the discrepancies.

[Mister Bushice]

MS does not recognize all of the current recommended coding approved by the W3. IE source code is not available like firefox is, so webdevelopers usually have to avoid the very latest webdesign elements. IE just doesn't keep their browers up to standard.

Usually if you develop in IE, most others will work, but there are always things that will need adjustment. you have to test in all availble brower formats, but best if you develop for IE, since they are usually the low man.

Some developers use code to detect the browser, then have the user follwo that path. Esp since we now have PDA browsers. Whole new world right there.

[Mister Bushice]

check out this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers

Lots of graphs to tell you the whys.

[KC Scott]

Web browsers and the way that they render things differently has often been the bane of the web developer's existence.

There are some workarounds and methods by which you can minimize the discrepancies.

Dave - my Host IT guy sent me to validator.w3.org - I've been uploading my pages.

The only errors I'm getting are:

Error Line 155 column 28: element "O: P" undefined.

style="">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></li>

You have used the element named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not define an element of that name. This error is often caused by:

* incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get the "<frameset>" element),
* by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>" or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
* by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and elements must be all lower-case.

I have no idea what this means

I've got like 3 of them per page and it doesn't tell me what to do to fix

[Mister Bushice]

Web browsers and the way that they render things differently has often been the bane of the web developer's existence.

There are some workarounds and methods by which you can minimize the discrepancies.

Dave - my Host IT guy sent me to validator.w3.org - I've been uploading my pages.

The only errors I'm getting are:

Error Line 155 column 28: element "O: P" undefined.

style="">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></li>

Scott,

you start out with the word "style", then see between the brackets of "color=red" the >, then you closed the color code, so the > is meaningless there, and the following </o:p have nothing connected to them.

Those are CSS (cascading style sheet) references. ( the word "style" refers to that)

It's what happens with generic software. nothing automated works flawlessly

CSS in a nutshell: imagine you could put all of the fonts, colors and codes and layout of every page on your website into one file so it all matches, so when you change something it is changed uniformly throughout the entire site.

That is CSS. A way to more easily manage website visual content.

You have used the element named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not define an element of that name. This error is often caused by:

* incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get the "<frameset>" element),
* by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>" or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
* by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and elements must be all lower-case.

I have no idea what this means

I've got like 3 of them per page and it doesn't tell me what to do to fix

These are general possibility comments. Fixing the CSS codes will most likely solve your issue. I didn't see any frame sets on my quick cruise to your web link.

Whether you can do CSS or not is up to you. Like I said to you B-4, it is a part time job in and of it self.

BTW I'm speaking off the cuff here. I have been too busy to check out your site in detail , but I will soon.

Welcome to the world of website development. :)

[KC Scott]

Web browsers and the way that they render things differently has often been the bane of the web developer's existence.

There are some workarounds and methods by which you can minimize the discrepancies.

Dave - my Host IT guy sent me to validator.w3.org - I've been uploading my pages.

The only errors I'm getting are:

Error Line 155 column 28: element "O: P" undefined.

style="">&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></li>

Scott,

you start out with the word "style", then see between the brackets of "color=red" the >, then you closed the color code, so the > is meaningless there, and the following </o:p have nothing connected to them.

Those are CSS (cascading style sheet) references. ( the word "style" refers to that)

It's what happens with generic software. nothing automated word flawlessly

CSS in a nutshell: imagine you could put all of the fonts, colors and codes and layout of every page on your website into one file so it all matches, so when you change something it is changed uniformly throughout the entire site.

That is CSS. A way to more easily manage website visual content.

You have used the element named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not define an element of that name. This error is often caused by:

* incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Frameset" document type to get the "<frameset>" element),
* by using vendor proprietary extensions such as "<spacer>" or "<marquee>" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to achieve the desired effect instead).
* by using upper-case tags in XHTML (in XHTML attributes and elements must be all lower-case.

I have no idea what this means

I've got like 3 of them per page and it doesn't tell me what to do to fix

These are general possibility comments. Fixing the CSS codes will most likely solve your issue. I didn't see any frame sets on my quick cruise to your web link.

Whether you can do CSS or not is up to you. Like I said to you B-4, it is a part time job in and of it self.

BTW I'm speaking off the cuff here. I have been too busy to check out your site in detail , but I will soon.

Welcome to the world of website development. :)

Will - I didn't have any color in that code - that was just me using the UBB code here to show what the Validator spit back that was wrong: >

Regarding CSS - I am so lost as to what your talking about. LOL -

So how would I write the CSS code to fix the aforementioned problem?

The part of the website that referred to was specific terms in a "text box" - for lack of a better term
It was pin up area over the top of an image on our home page

Thanks.

[PSUFAN]

Basically, <o:p> is something coming from whatever program generated your html - Probably a Microsoft product?

Bushy is right, it is something that is coming from an attempt at CSS. The w3.org validator is quite unforgiving.

I can help you strip your code of this stuff, and try to make it look the same in FF and IE, if you want. PM