Immigration issue. Anybody else just not care?

[trev]

RF, why should California pay 10 billion dollars a year for the privilege of having illegals in the state?

If your problem is with California, have them elect politicians who will deal with the problem.

We're trying. The problem is the majority of voters in California are leech sucking liberals and keep voting in more and more welfare supporting wack jobs.

Some other stats:

From the L.A. Times


1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).

(All of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)


Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.


Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

[Dinsdale]

CAN'T.


STOP.


LAUGHING.




Hey trev... I notice you didn't link directly to the LA Times article that gave those stats.


Why don't you go ahead and do that, trev?

Go right ahead.


Did you happen to notice that some of those numbers cited represent a statistical near-impossibility, or are not so good at the maths?


Wait... instead of linking up that LA Times article, you should maybe click on this one first --

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp


There's enough absolutely shocking, unacceptable, accurate statistics involving the foreign invaders that no one should have to make them up.



Uhm, trev... just because it showed up in your inbox, it doesn't mean it's true. There isn't really someone in Nigeria who needs your help freeing up $10,000,000, either.

[trev]

There's only 20 spanish radio stations in LA, not 21. My bad. A few other figures are a little off. Big whoopie. You still get the picture.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

There's only 20 spanish radio stations in LA, not 21. My bad. A few other figures are a little off. Big whoopie. You still get the picture.

Sounds like a Friedman-esque capitalist Utopia to me.

Let the consumer driven market decide, puta.

[poptart]

If the Telemundo weather girl is illegal, she gets to stay.

All others die.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

If the Telemundo weather girl is illegal, she gets to stay.

All others die.

How dare you make an outrageous statement like that!

...without posting a pic.



:wink:

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

"Papa Bushice, why you leave me in Manila slums? You no love me?
Me love you...



...long time.

Rats eat me, Papa. I wait...write many letters...Does Mama Bushice throw them into Bushice Family circular filing cabinet?

I am so hungry Papa...only dream of eating Cheezums with you, watching American Idol and NASCAR in beautiful gated community, safe from the "Mexicans" you spoke of in last letter...Hope you safe...you safe, right?"

[Cuda]

Sounds like a Friedman-esque capitalist Utopia to me.

Milton Friedman was opposed to wetbacks.

A welfare state, plus open borders= Fucking Disaster

[Dinsdale]

...but whatever Snopes says about something is?

Just the first link that came up.

I thought that this had been debunked so thoroughly across the media, multiple links weren't necessary.

[PSUFAN]

There's only 20 spanish radio stations in LA, not 21. My bad. A few other figures are a little off. Big whoopie. You still get the picture.

Maybe he does. The rest of us are still wondering what the fuck you're talking about, though.

[Goober McTuber]

10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).

What do the other 1.2 million speak? Klingon?

[OCmike]

There's only 20 spanish radio stations in LA, not 21. My bad. A few other figures are a little off. Big whoopie. You still get the picture.

Maybe he does. The rest of us are still wondering what the fuck you're talking about, though.

The rest of you will. It'll take a few years, but you'll get it eventually.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

There's only 20 spanish radio stations in LA, not 21. My bad. A few other figures are a little off. Big whoopie. You still get the picture.

Maybe he does. The rest of us are still wondering what the fuck you're talking about, though.

The rest of you will. It'll take a few years, but you'll get it eventually.

I can't tell if you're taking a shot at PSUFAN or trev. Looks like it could go either way.

[Terry in Crapchester]

...a call center in fucking India...

Phibes with free market diatribe in 3...2...1...

Of course, it doesn't have to be that way.

I have little doubt that the Chimp-in-chief thinks outsourcing is the greatest thing since sliced bread, or at least an inevitable result of capitalism. OTOH, you have Henry Ford -- certainly no socialist, he -- who thought it made good financial sense to pay his employees enough that they could also afford to be customers.

I'll take Ford over Bush any day, and twice on Sundays.

[Goober McTuber]

Well, duh. I’d take Gerald Ford over Bush.

[Mister Bushice]

This just in :

Bushs immigration bill has failed. The senate voted it down.

What kills me is his reply on the defeat:

Congress really needs to prove to the American people that it can come together on hard issues," Bush said.

Uummm HELLO They did. It just didn't go YOUR way, asshole. They came together and decided that your piece of shit legislation granting amnesty to 12 million illegals was the wrong thing to do. Props to them. Good lord what a pompous ASS he is.

[BSmack]

Bushs immigration bill has failed. The senate voted it down.

So a majority of Senators voted against it?

[PSUFAN]

Here it is. It was pathetic to hear Bush use the same tired bullshit rhetoric about how his opponents on the issue were "harming America".

Maybe we can avoid electing a moron into office for the next few terms. I think everybody's tired of it now.

[Mikey]

Yeah, the Republicans are finally coming around on Bush.

They're ready now to get behind somebody of real quality, integrity and demonstrable law and order credentials...like Fred Thompson.

[Goober McTuber]

Bushs immigration bill has failed. The senate voted it down.

So a majority of Senators voted against it?

Actually, yes. A majority voted against it 53-46. The article said they needed 60 votes in favor just to move it to a final vote.

[Dr_Phibes]

Of course, it doesn't have to be that way.

I have little doubt that the Chimp-in-chief thinks outsourcing is the greatest thing since sliced bread, or at least an inevitable result of capitalism. OTOH, you have Henry Ford -- certainly no socialist, he -- who thought it made good financial sense to pay his employees enough that they could also afford to be customers.

I'll take Ford over Bush any day, and twice on Sundays.

That's an old chesnut, Terry - The Great War knocked down that sort of thinking. Rather than lower cost/reduce profit, you seek new markets abroad to dump your goods and provide service. Crises is averted by obtaining new buyers in non-capitalist countries.

Exogenous consumption =/= Imperialism.

[Dinsdale]

RACK the Senate for actually being familiar with the word "constituents."

Congress is there to impose the Will of the People, not the other way around. I'm pretty sure that's how "representative democracy" is supposed to work.

The People grant the government rights, not the other way around. Never forget it.

I'd love to see criminal penalties for congressmen that vote against the will of their constituents. That's treason.

[Solo]

Well said, Dinsdale.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

RACK ...

Stop racking Phibes. He made absolutely no sense in his last post.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Crises is averted by obtaining new buyers in non-capitalist countries.

So, in essence, your are saying that if American capital can leverage open the industrial and resource base of
the Philippine economy, Bushice can have his adopted kid, regardless of his wife's recent reconsideration of said adoption?

I'm not buying it. Save that for your Hegelian Agorist friends.

[RadioFan]

RF, why should California pay 10 billion dollars a year for the privilege of having illegals in the state?

If your problem is with California, have them elect politicians who will deal with the problem.

We're trying.

Who the fuck is "we," exactly, trev?

[RadioFan]

We did, you ignorant fuck. It was overturned by the courts. If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you very clearly don't, just shut the fuck up.

You're a goddamn idiot.

Indeed

Cultural Bigot, please.

Thanks for proving my entire argument. Jackass.

[Solo]

tell me why YOU think the flood of illegals is beneficial to us.

Answer the question RF.

[stuckinia]

tell me why YOU think the flood of illegals is beneficial to us.

Answer the question RF.

I believe it would be easier to label you and your followers as uneducated, no-nothing, bigots.

[RadioFan]

I believe it would be easier to label you and your followers as uneducated, no-nothing, bigots.

Hey, no fair giving clueless, bigoted tards clues. :wink:

tell me why YOU think the flood of illegals is beneficial to us.

Answer the question RF.

And who the fuck are you?

Ah yes, Solo, who never contributes anything to this board, outside of this pathetic bullshit. If you have an actual argument, state it.



mvs, OCMike, pop ... hold, please. I know you guys have answers, but I'd like this fucking pussy to answer this question on his own. I'm willing to bet he's got nothing. tia.


Carry on ...

[PSUFAN]

If your problem is with California, have them elect politicians who will deal with the problem.

We're trying.

Who the fuck is "we," exactly, trev?

Her, her saddlebags, and the select few folks who respect her judgment.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...and the select few folks who respect her judgment.

Rosy is in councelling. Scratch him off the list.

[PSUFAN]

Why...gladly.

[Dog]

I was reading some 60 Minutes clips on Yahoo about Lou Dobbs and his anti illegal obsession and I think I realize that I really have no care about the issue. Either way. None.

So to those of you that want to build a fence, go ahead. To those that want to try and stop them, knock yourselves out.

I'm sure I'll manage either way.

Exactly!

Its definitely not an issue that I'm basing my votes on.

[OCmike]

I was reading some 60 Minutes clips on Yahoo about Lou Dobbs and his anti illegal obsession and I think I realize that I really have no care about the issue. Either way. None.

So to those of you that want to build a fence, go ahead. To those that want to try and stop them, knock yourselves out.

I'm sure I'll manage either way.

Exactly!

Its definitely not an issue that I'm basing my votes on.

Then you're a short-sighted idiot.