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Now people who don't even belong here are whining that they can't get married. I have an idea........how about if the cops go pick up this guys girlfriend and send her home? I guess it would be easier to change the laws so that she can get married? I am beginning to hate this country.....
Some immigrants denied marriage licenses By TRAVIS LOLLER, Associated Press Writer



NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A federal law that requires people to supply their Social Security number when applying for a marriage license has forced thousands of couples around the country, particularly illegal immigrants, to put their wedding plans on hold.

The law has been on the books for about a decade and was intended to make it easier to collect child support payments. But in some places it has prevented even legal immigrants and some American citizens from getting married.

Some couples are traveling to other states or other counties willing to issue them marriage licenses.

Jonadad Luque, a Honduran immigrant legally in the U.S., wants to marry his girlfriend, with whom he has two children, ages 1 and 5. But the county clerk in Nashville would not issue them a license because his girlfriend is in the country illegally and does not have a Social Security number.

"I have a Social Security number, a driver's license and permission to work," Luque said in Spanish. "We want to get married, but we'll have to wait until they change the law."

John Arriola, the county clerk in Nashville, said he would like to see the law changed, but for now he has to obey it.

Federal law requires states to record the Social Security numbers of all applicants for a professional license, driver's license, recreational license or marriage license. And Social Security numbers are not available to those who are in this country illegally or do not have permission to work.

But whether and how the law is enforced varies dramatically from state to state, and even from county to county, with some authorities interpreting the law as saying that only those people who already have Social Security numbers need to supply them.

Illegal immigrants are encountering less trouble getting married in places that have established immigrant communities. In Texas and New York City, for instance, officials ask for Social Security numbers but do not require them.

The Los Angeles County registrar's office says it does not require any proof of residency or citizenship status. And in North Carolina, people without Social Security numbers can present an affidavit stating they are ineligible for one.

The laws are often more strict in states where large immigrant populations are a recent phenomenon. In Tennessee and Alabama, for example, some county clerks are using the law to prevent illegal immigrants from getting marriage licenses.

Immigration attorneys say the law was not designed to keep people from getting married.

"There's a fundamental U.S. constitutional right to marry," said Charles Baesler, an immigration lawyer in Kentucky and chairman of the American Immigration Lawyers Association's Southeast chapter.

A federal judge in Pennsylvania ruled last month that a county official could not require a man to prove he was legally in the country before issuing a marriage license to him and his American fiancee.

The Rev. Joseph Breen of Nashville's St. Edward Catholic Church, which has a large Hispanic congregation, said he became concerned about the number of couples in his parish, some with children, who had been unable to marry legally.

So the church drove about 20 couples across the state line to Kentucky for licenses and a civil wedding ceremony before bringing them back to Nashville for a church wedding.

"We call ourselves a Christian country, but you've got to go to Georgia or Kentucky in order to get married," Breen said. "We're supposed to be pro-family."

The Rev. Neil Pezzulo, a Roman Catholic priest in rural Arkansas' Scott County, said immigrant couples keep coming in with marriage licenses issued in a neighboring county with a more liberal policy.

Scott County Clerk Sandy Staggs said state law requires a Social Security number, but for people who don't have one, her office also accepts a birth certificate, translated into English, and a photo ID.

As for how the policy could differ from one county to the next, Pezzulo said: "My suspicion is it has to do more with religious and political agendas than an understanding of the law."

I bolded my favorite part. So illegals are given constitutional rights? Funny I always thought those were for citizens. Fucking lawyers.......
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Neely8 wrote: I bolded my favorite part.

What, the part where a lawyer flat-out fucking lied to make a point?


I'd love to hear which Amendment outline's a persons right to get married? It's not implicitly covered in #'s 1-27, which are kinda the ones I'm familiar with, unless someone were to realllllllly stretch the interpretation of ***Insert Amendment # Here**.


Fuckin'A -- a lawyer lied. My faith in humanity has been crushed.

And thinking this whole immigration thing over -- I've decided that I'm actually all in favor of granting the 12 million, or however many there are, full amnesty, and anyone who is here should be given citizenship(provided they pass the test), and should be given immunity to any charges stemming from their illegal entry.


Of course -- my endorsement of amnesty goes hand-in-hand with all federal social programs being abolished. Can't have one without the other.

And when we finally come to our senses and remember that people's "obligation" to the less fortunate is a voluntary one and do away with the social programs, it will be a result of the abuse of those programs by people who have no "right" to them in the first place.

And when that day comes, I will thank my friends and countrymen who came here illegally for being the catalyst that finally made the people WAKEY WAKEY. And for this, they will be heros. Until then... fuck off with the bitching on/about my dime, beaner.
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Why are they worreid about getting married ??

All the bitch has to do is get knocked up and then drop her brat out of her Messican cunt here on the US soil and the bastard is a citizen... and few mothers of "infant citizens" get deported when the brat is legal.. fucking wetback sluts are walking around the West side with 2 brats in a stroller and one cooking in the oven.
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Derron wrote:2 brats in a stroller and one cooking in the oven
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on the fucking money, D. on the fucking money. a couple brats sounds pretty damn good right now.

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Derron wrote: fucking wetback sluts are walking around the West side with 2 brats in a stroller and one cooking in the oven.

A stroller that for some reason, they insist on parking in the middle of the fucking lane in Winco.


It would be nice if the people invading our country at least learned some very basic social skills.


And the story I heard very recently about a large group of mexicans showing complete indifference to a person in imminent danger of death, and the poor old dude wasn't rescued until Whitey came along was deplorable. Might not have been so bad, but I keep hearing these accounts over and over and over. And I KNOW FOR FACT that not all Mexicans are brought up that way -- most of the Mexicans I know and have known would die before they let their fellow man perish without doing what they could to help, regardless of ethnicity of the victim.... just like everyone else I've ever met. Yet somehow, the class of people this country seems to be attracting from Mexico are some of the more deplorable people on the planet.
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All I.I.'s should be treated to a government-funded shotgun wedding.
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It's a...
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brown wedding...


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It would be nice if the people invading our country at least learned some very basic social skills.
Well...one in 10 latinas are passably hot. In the US, that's like an Immigration Gold Card.

Do you have the nationalist fervor to tell Penelope Cruz or Shakira to take a hike? Personally, I don't - I'm thinking Meso-American Mushroom Stamp before I'm thinking INS, truth be told.
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PSUFAN wrote:
It would be nice if the people invading our country at least learned some very basic social skills.
Well...one in 10 latinas are passably hot. In the US, that's like an Immigration Gold Card.

Do you have the nationalist fervor to tell Penelope Cruz or Shakira to take a hike? Personally, I don't - I'm thinking Meso-American Mushroom Stamp before I'm thinking INS, truth be told.

I believe your examples hail from Columbia and Brazil respectively. They are out in the open and are probably legal residents. If they pay taxes I am cool.........
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Can we just round up and deport the pinheads that look like they escaped from a Mayan sacrifice, and keep the ones that look like Salma Hayek? TIA
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I know you northeasterners and midwesters(which are the same thing -- just ask SoCalToeJam) haven't experienced quite the infux of Mexicans that some of the other regions have(there's been plenty of migrant workers around here for as long as I can remember, but over the last 5-10 years... wow), so you don't fully understand what's happening...


But I see and meet plenty of really hot Mexican chicks. Then, they get knocked up at a young age, and experience Hispanic Maternal Ugly Syndrome.


What I've noticed that's kind of funny -- the really super-hot Mexican chicks who can at least muster a little English... they pretty much get spoiled, just like hot native chicks do, and once they get a taste of the American "good life" -- the really hot ones get Americanized so quickly, it'll make your head spin.
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And in other completely unrelated news from the U&L...


The Mayor has lost his fucking mind.

PORTLAND - Mayor Tom Potter hopes to increase downtown livability by opening the City Hall restrooms overnight.

As part of Potter's Street Access for Everyone, or SAFE, the first floor of City Hall's restrooms will be open to the public overnight.

Currently, the City Hall restrooms are open to the public from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. The new hours, from 11 p.m. to 7 a.m., are expected to be in place by Aug. 2.

The additional hours will increase the city's public restroom capacity during hours when no other public restrooms are available. The initiative includes providing day shelters for the homeless during hours when most shelters providing services are closed.

The cost of additional hours and security is more than $46,000 for a six-month trial period.

We've been down this road time and time again.


Very little in the way of good comes about between the hours of 11PM and 7AM downtown.


This is going to go down exactly like every other public restroom that's open late at night downtown -- it becomes yet another kitchen. Those restrooms will be unusable to the general public, since the junkies will go in there to cook up a spoonful, and drive the spike. Then, on their way out, they'll pass out behind the doors, and Johnny Q Public who has knowledge of the late-night workings of downtown isn't about to force the door open and wake the delusional addict up. It just isn't a good idea. So Johnny Q will slip into an ally and take a leak, just like we always have.


Good scientific procedure dictates repeating an experiment until consistant results are achieved, but I think we passed that point long ago. $46,000 to prove once again that junkies like privacy when they shoot up just doesn't seem like a good expenditure. If the Mayor wants to try and make the streets safer by giving the junkies a place to go in the wee hours, I think they could come up with a better place than City Freaking Hall. Besides, anyone who is bumping around downtown late at night knows the drill -- and part of it involves not being shocked when you see a bum/junky pissing on the street. You're taking your life into your hands when you start wandering the streets after hours, and I doubt this is unique to this city.


Fucking crazy. Ask Seattle how those downtown public restrooms worked out for them.
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Homeless.

Dignity Village, the makeshift homeless camp in NE Portland is like Paris Hilton's home compared to the old camps underneath the Ross Island Bridge. The Ross Island Bridge is one of numerous bridges that cross the Willamette river that divides the center of Portland. Once, they sent me down to meet ODOT, who had a crew that had to do a major shelter cleanout gig, and had to post "Get out of Dodge notices" prior to the big event.

I hiked in and was blown away. Hundreds of people probably lived down there. The bank underneath McLaughlin Blvd. actually goes back and people are setting up camp underneath the roadway. Sheets of plywood make up homes/forts or whatever you want to call them. Little doorways leading to scrap carpeted shacks. Many had lanterns, lawn chairs, TV's, the hum of some generators, dart boards, a few pictures mounted on the walls of the plywood. Home for many. And in front of these cardboard or plywood shacks were a border of rocks painted white that basically resembled the border of a street. The street that I saw ran parallel for about 150 yards.

At a wide section, I saw this round rock lined thing, which I was informed was the community "shit pit." This is where everybody came to shit or piss. At one end of the pit was what I'd call the handicap area. They had constructed out of discarded wood a cage/support looking terlit thing for people who either were handicapped/old/ or maybe missing a leg or so... I was talking to this one homeless guy that I had seen and talked to up on the "real" streets and he told me that this place in darkness was a pretty scary place to be. I asked him how many people were down here. He told me at times he thought maybe a hundred or two in just this area. I asked him about the shit pit and he told me that he found it disgusting...he said that when the big heavy rains come there is a "cleanout crew" of about ten guys...who live in this community...and they shovel all the sewage from the shit pit down the steep bank that is about 30 yards from the Willamette river. This river splits down the middle of Portland. So when the rain comes, and the steep bank leading down to the river is slick then comes the cleanout crew. Shovel fast and get the pit cleaned out and let the river send all that shit downstream.

Hell on earth.

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Luther wrote:Homeless.

Dignity Village, the makeshift homeless camp in NE Portland is like Paris Hilton's home compared to the old camps underneath the Ross Island Bridge. The Ross Island Bridge is one of numerous bridges that cross the Willamette river that divides the center of Portland. Once, they sent me down to meet ODOT, who had a crew that had to do a major shelter cleanout gig, and had to post "Get out of Dodge notices" prior to the big event.

I hiked in and was blown away. Hundreds of people probably lived down there. The bank underneath McLaughlin Blvd. actually goes back and people are setting up camp underneath the roadway. Sheets of plywood make up homes/forts or whatever you want to call them. Little doorways leading to scrap carpeted shacks. Many had lanterns, lawn chairs, TV's, the hum of some generators, dart boards, a few pictures mounted on the walls of the plywood. Home for many. And in front of these cardboard or plywood shacks were a border of rocks painted white that basically resembled the border of a street. The street that I saw ran parallel for about 150 yards.

At a wide section, I saw this round rock lined thing, which I was informed was the community "shit pit." This is where everybody came to shit or piss. At one end of the pit was what I'd call the handicap area. They had constructed out of discarded wood a cage/support looking terlit thing for people who either were handicapped/old/ or maybe missing a leg or so... I was talking to this one homeless guy that I had seen and talked to up on the "real" streets and he told me that this place in darkness was a pretty scary place to be. I asked him how many people were down here. He told me at times he thought maybe a hundred or two in just this area. I asked him about the shit pit and he told me that he found it disgusting...he said that when the big heavy rains come there is a "cleanout crew" of about ten guys...who live in this community...and they shovel all the sewage from the shit pit down the steep bank that is about 30 yards from the Willamette river. This river splits down the middle of Portland. So when the rain comes, and the steep bank leading down to the river is slick then comes the cleanout crew. Shovel fast and get the pit cleaned out and let the river send all that shit downstream.

Hell on earth.

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There is a documentary titled "Dark Days" that details the homeless in New York City. They have set up shop down in the subways. It was amazing to see "shacks" made out of plywood and other materials that had running water and electricity. A whole sub culture that people don't even know exists. Pretty wild.......
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Neely8 wrote:A whole sub culture that people don't even know exists. Pretty wild.......

Out my way(other side of the river from Luth and the areas he's talking about), there's a creek that runs alongside OR217(very busy freeway on the West Side). Along the stretch of it near me, there a stretch of freaking enormous blackberry bushes. Turns out after the cops got a lead on the whereabouts of one Trey Arrow, the high-profile eco-terrorist and start of the FBI Most Wanted List, the cops went in and started looking around. Turns out the blackberries have been hollowed out, and there's a massive series of tunnels under there, and it was estimated there may be as many as a hundred people living in there(hollowed out blackberries are an excellent place to grow weed outdoors-btw OR SO I'VE HEARD). My buddy used to live in a condo that backed up to that little strip of flora alonside the freeway, and he just couldn't figure out why his car window would be smashed in any time he'd leave anything of value in his car(except the convertable, which just got the top sliced open). Guess we now know.


And these are many of the same folks who man the freeway ramps panhandling.
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Dinsdale wrote:What I've noticed that's kind of funny -- the really super-hot Mexican chicks who can at least muster a little English... they pretty much get spoiled, just like hot native chicks do, and once they get a taste of the American "good life" -- the really hot ones get Americanized so quickly, it'll make your head spin.
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Play the third song down the list, Sweet Love. A true U&L classic.
Fan-Fucking-tastic!

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No need to humor me about one on IB's top 10 list, no doubt.

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