Dutch bishop: Call God ‘Allah’ to ease relations.....

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:58 pm

Nice of him to take time out his usual busy schedule of pounding the chocolate apple jacks of Alter boys to announce this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20279326/?GT1=10252

Go fuck yourself, you pansy assed faggot.

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:11 pm

The bishop's name is Tiny Muskens?!?!?

Outstanding.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:29 am

Symantics, at least according to Merriam-Webster.

God = Allah

Unless of course Tiny wants the Dutch to start using Arabic words. The French would be outraged if he said this shit there. Somebody needs to tell him that there are already several hundred words -- at least -- derived from Arabic in the English language. I highly doubt using the Arabic word for God will keep al-fuckhead from blowing himself up and taking this Bishop with him, if given the chance.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:30 am

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:The bishop's name is Tiny Muskens?!?!?

Outfuckingstanding.

FTFY

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:19 am

Roach wrote:martyred, no frothing at the mouth from you yet?

You must not really have your heart in it.

I pick my moments carefully.

Show some respect for Islam, and you'll get respect back.

Did you ever consider that they're a proud people, as proud as say....you?

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:26 am

Martyred wrote:
Show some respect for Islam, and you'll get respect back.

Jerkovich · Post by **Jerkovich** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:29 am

Martyred wrote:
Roach wrote:martyred, no frothing at the mouth from you yet?

You must not really have your heart in it.
I pick my moments carefully.

Show some respect for Islam, and you'll get respect back.

Did you ever consider that they're a proud people, as proud as say....you?

Ya pick your moment, pedostick.

I have found that Islamic fuck heads show very little regard for others, much less then respect. Reap what you sow, douche bag.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:07 pm

Jerkovich wrote:Reap what you sow, douche bag.

Duhhhh...I'm your typical half-witted American with no
recollection of historical events beyond last week. Duhh...

Exactly. Reap what you sow, douche-flaps.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:14 pm

...chocolate apple jacks...

Jeebus...bwahahahahaahahaha...RACK.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:25 pm

Jsc810 wrote:If there was any reason to respect Islam, any reason at all, then I would.

There isn't, so I don't.

Any religions you do respect?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:39 pm

A Dutch RC Bishop...that's as close to complete anonymity as you can get, IMO. No wonder he has to spout garbage in order to approximate relevance. Those turkish altar boys don't line themselves up, you know.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:54 pm

The guy is no doubt as queer as a three dollar bill, and the next time I'm interested in Tiny M. opening his mouth I'll rattle my zipper.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:41 pm

Martyred wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:Reap what you sow, douche bag.

Duhhhh...I'm your typical half-witted American with no
recollection of historical events beyond last week. Duhh...

Exactly. Reap what you sow, douche-flaps.

FTFY, dumb ass.

Mossadegh was a communist, who, with Soviet backing, agitated civil unrest in an attempt to force out the legitimate Iranian Head of State (the Shah) All the CIA did was cause his coup to collapse and re-instate the Shah to his legitimate place. All of which fits your well-established pattern of lovng all things red, and hating all things Red, White & Blue. What percentage of Iranians would gladly have the Shah back in power? Any guess below 95% doesn't count and allows you to guess again with no penalty

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:42 pm

Jsc810 wrote:If there was any reason to respect Islam, any reason at all, then I would.

There isn't, so I don't.

Wow. And you seemed to be so... well so un like a bigot in the rest of your posts.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:59 pm

mvscal wrote: Pull your fucking head out of your ass, you moronic tard.

I guess you are right (now that I have checked a bit further) a lot of his posts are bigoted.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:07 pm

Kierland wrote:
mvscal wrote: Pull your fucking head out of your ass, you moronic tard.
I guess you are right (now that I have checked a bit further) a lot of his posts are bigoted.

He really hates people with intact colons.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:02 pm

poptart wrote:The guy is no doubt as queer as a three dollar bill, and the next time I'm interested in Tiny M. opening his mouth I'll rattle my zipper.

This revved-up Christer will be waiting--with the meth, and his trousers lowered, etc.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:19 pm

Cuda wrote:
Martyred wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:Reap what you sow, douche bag.

Mossadegh was a communist, who, with Soviet backing, agitated civil unrest in an attempt to force out the legitimate Iranian Head of State (the Shah) All the CIA did was cause his coup to collapse and re-instate the Shah to his legitimate place. What percentage of Iranians would gladly have the Shah back in power? Any guess below 95% doesn't count and allows you to guess again with no penalty

Prick, this is perhaps the most deluded Rovian take I've seen in a long time. Absolute categorical bullshit with nothing whatever to support it. In fact, Mossadegh was a secular muslim who had no ties to the Soviets. He did, however, propose nationalizing his nation's oil industries. This alone was the reason for the completely illegal coup by the CIA (and Britain). As for the lunatic Shah, it was his Nazi-worshipping father who had been rejected in favor of Mossadegh. The Shah was a heinous dictator who was properly reviled and finally run out of Iran (despite the extensive propping he'd enjoyed by the U.S.). The international criminal Henry Kissenger shamelessly protected him--to the point of bringing the dying Shah to the U.S. for medical treatment.

The percentage of Iranians who actually want the Shah back? Are you kidding? It's about .0007% And that's including rich toadies who fled.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:59 pm

The percentage of Iranians who actually want the Shah back? Are you kidding? It's about .0007%...

So you're telling me there's a chance...

Sin,

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:19 pm

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote: He did, however, propose nationalizing his nation's oil industries. This alone was the reason for the completely illegal coup by the CIA (and Britain).
Complete horseshit. It wasn't until his blatantly unconstitutional dismissal of parliament that the Shah agreed to remove him as he was legally entitled to do.

As usual, babs, your Rovian bullshit is easily and clearly refuted:

By the summer of 1953, the British and American governments initiated a joint Anglo-American plan for the covert overthrow of Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh, the Prime Minister of Iran. The plan called Operation AJAX with Kermit Roosevelt, the CIA Mideast Agent in charge (a grandson of Theodore Roosevelt and a distant cousin of Franklin Delano Roosevelt). "So this is how we will get rid of the madman Mossadeq in Iran" announced John Foster Dulles to a group of top Washington policy makers in June 1953. The U.S. Secretary of State held in his hand a plan of operation to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran. There was scarcely any discussions amongst the high powered men in the room, no probing questions and no legal or ethical issues raised.

- The New York Times, 05/29/1997, "The CIA destroyed files on 1953 Iran coup d'état"
- The New York Times, 04/16/2000, "The CIA in Iran"
- The New York Times (web-site), 06/18/2000, "Overthrow of premier Mossadeq of Iran"

The decision was made in June 1953 to replace Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh with General Fazlollah Zahedi; one of those arrested in February 1953 on charges of plotting to overthrow the nationalist government. Kermit Roosevelt, the CIA Mideast Agent, traveled secretly to Iran to coordinate the Operation AJAX with the Shah and the Iranian military, which was led by General Fazlollah Zahedi.

In accordance with the plan, on August 16, 1953, the Shah violated the Iran's Monarchy Constitution and dismissed Dr. Mossadegh and his nationalist cabinet without the parliament's approval and appointed General Fazlollah Zahedi as the new Prime Minister. The chief of the Royal Guards, Colonel Nematollah Nassiri, served Dr. Mossadegh with a formal dismissal notice. In addition, he was ordered to occupy Dr. Mossadegh's house by the Royal troops and hold him in his house until further instructions, but the Prime Minister's guards forced them to quit.

The coup d'état was publicized and caused major disappointment and dissatisfaction amongst the people throughout the country. In a matter of hours, massive rioting erupted in Iran in wide support of Dr. Mossadegh; and the Shah fled to Italy. The people's protest and demonstration continued for two days and led to pull down the statues of the Shah and his father all over the country.

On August 19th, 1953, the British Intelligence Service (MI6) and the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), engineered to perform the next phase of their plan against the Iranian national government of Dr. Mossadegh. On that tragic day, a group of tanks led by General Fazlollah Zahedi moved through Tehran and surrounded Dr. Mossadegh's residence. The forces behind the coup d'état also managed to pull a large number of bribed hooligans into the streets to rally against Dr. Mossadegh. Finally the army and police forces let the mob reach the Prime Minister's residence and after hours of bombarding and fighting a bloody battle with the small group of Dr. Mossadegh's loyal guards, they entered the house and after plundering it, they burned it down. In a matter of hours Dr. Mossadegh and his top cabinet leaders surrendered themselves to the coup d'état Prime Minister, General Fazlollah Zahedi, and the Shah flew back to Iran, as a U.S. puppet.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:00 pm

mvscal wrote:There was no parliament, you fucking idiot. Mossadegh had dissolved it...illegally.

If Mossadegh had no authority to dissolve parliament, then it could not legally be considered dissolved.

You're slipping mv.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:12 pm

So that's all Rove Monkey has? Hissing venomous playground taunts while simply stating more obvious bullshit? Look, babs, you've been totally refuted. Your "position" is clearly demonstrated to be dead wrong, as usual.

Rove, while spending more time with his family, would nod in approval. "just keep going," he'd say. Rusp Limpdick would take a commercial break and just keep sputtering his idiotic spin. I guess then in addition to your Rove Monkey status, you also qualify as Rusp's fluffer.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:12 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:There was no parliament, you fucking idiot. Mossadegh had dissolved it...illegally.
If Mossadegh had no authority to dissolve parliament, then it could not legally be considered dissolved.

You're slipping mv.
No, I'm not slipping. You are a ignorant moron. Inform yourself someday, dipshit.

I've just been informed that simple logic turns you into a stuttering dumbfuck.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:27 pm

For the love of Allah and ALLAH, can we please move this to the Allahdamn Spin Zone?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:27 pm

mvscal wrote:Complete ignorance is not and never will be "simple logic."

Still doing all you can to avoid defending your position with facts?

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:33 pm

mvscal wrote:Complete ignorance is not and never will be "simple logic."

C'mere, fluff-bitch, that's some good suckage...ooh yeah...we'll take a break...don't go 'way..

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:16 pm

LTS, do you honestly think anyone here actually listens to that blowhard? His target demographic is senior citizens.

Time to get a new dance routine, monkey.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:11 pm

"Populist demagogue"? He was the duly elected Primer Minister. And having incurred the wrath of the Brits and Americans was the target of a coup. There's only debate on this from hacks like you who are determined, it appears, to go down with the ship, railing fatuous blather all the way.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:09 am

No, you can't just think you can bullshit and it'll stand. In fact

By 1944 Reza Shah Pahlavi had abdicated, and Mossadegh was once again elected to parliament. This time he took the lead of Jebhe Melli (National Front of Iran), an organization he had founded, aiming to establish democracy and end the foreign presence in Iranian politics, especially regarding the exploitation of Iran's rich oil resources by the "Anglo-Iranian Oil Company" (AIOC).

After negotiations for higher oil royalties failed, on 15 March 1951 the Iranian parliament voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and seized control of the British-owned and operated AIOC. Prime Minister General Haj-Ali Razmara, elected in June 1950, had opposed the nationalization bill on technical grounds. Razmara was assassinated on 7 March 1951 by Khalil Tahmasebi, a member of the militant fundamentalist group Fadayan-e Islam.

On 28 April 1951 the Majlis named Mossadegh as new prime minister by a vote of 79-12.

Now this basic complete refutation of your Rovian two-step bullshit is no big deal. You've got nothing when it comes to actually propping up the bile you assert. See, you're hunkered down like an old hermit in a cabin when it comes to allowing some light to shine. The machinations of the CIA, for example are now coming to light, and it's a bizarre tragi/comic farce of still unknowable proportions.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mi ... index.html

America's role in Iran is an astonishing record of incompetence, greed, and stupidity, it's revealed, and it remains now only to be strong enough to admit it.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:57 pm

Hey Rove Monkey, the Shah of Iran was forced to abdicate in 1944. It's not a matter of dispute. He was reinstalled following the coup of 1954. He then established the secret police force SAVAK with extensive help from the U.S. and Israel.

Are you always boxed? You know, blotto, and just saying shit and hoping someone will believe it if you attach enough nasty slurs and smears?