Preaching Forgiveness (for Michael Vick)

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:58 am

Michael has suffered humiliation and condemnation in front of the entire nation. Give the man his chance at salvation without any more aggravation.

For the Lord has said, "He who is without sin..Cast the first Stone!"
The Lord works in mysterious ways, and Michael is just a vessel.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” - Isaiah 55. Verses 8 and 9.

Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times. -Matthew 18:21-22

Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
-Luke 6:37

This question presents another reason to pray for the person we need to forgive. We can pray for God to deal with the injustices, for God to judge the person's life, and then we can leave that prayer at the altar. We no longer have to carry the anger. Although it is normal for us to feel anger toward sin and injustice, it is not our job to judge the other person in their sin.

Now, Go Forth to Love and Serve the Lord!

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:57 pm

Michael is just a vessel

His hull has been compromised by dog incisors. His life preservers have been replaced by Gideons.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:19 pm

Let he who is without sin cast the first dog.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:50 pm

Jack wrote: Although it is normal for us to feel anger toward sin and injustice, it is not our job to judge the other person in their sin.

Now, Go Forth to Love and Serve the Lord!

You forgot to ask us to send $ 100 each to your " Foundation " to spread the word to the unchurched masses.

BTW, your a fucking idiot. ( Judgement from Derron)

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:06 pm

Then Abishai son of Zeruiah said to the king, "Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? Let me go over and cut off his head."

2 Samuel 16:9

The hire of a whore and price of a dog, as a consecrated gift

Deuteronomy 23:18

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:11 pm

Derron wrote:BTW, your a fucking idiot. ( Judgement from Derron)

When you throw around the idiot card, it's normally not a good idea to make bloody mess of yourself with a couple of huge ass paper cuts.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:24 pm

mvscal wrote:
Jack wrote:Michael has suffered humiliation and condemnation in front of the entire nation. Give the man his chance at salvation without any more aggravation.
That stupid n...igger can go fuck himself. So can you, by the way.

Kinda what I was thinking too.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:36 pm

ucuntdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Derron wrote:BTW, your a fucking idiot. ( Judgement from Derron)

When you throw around the idiot card, it's normally not a good idea to make bloody mess of yourself with a couple of huge ass paper cuts.

Brilliant take from one who has been ass fucked multiple times....and a contender for Board Bitch....

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:10 pm

Derron wrote:Brilliant take.

If you're incapable of muddling your way through some one-line-shit-assed post about the perceived lack of intelligence of another poster without KYOA, twice, you may want to reconsider using your own sphincter as a plunger playground.

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:18 pm

I don't have any sympathy for a guy who is given a $100 million contract and decides to use his money that is funded by all of us (the fans) to participate in grotesque activities such as dog fighting. Someone gives you that money, you better be grateful and live a clean lifestyle. Vick is a fucking idiot.

chargerfan · Post by **chargerfan** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:49 pm

RumpleForeskin wrote:I don't have any sympathy for a guy who is given a $100 million contract and decides to use his money that is funded by all of us (the fans)

This is what i think of the fans. Always have, always will.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:37 pm

Fetch this, bitch! You really fucked up. Of course you didn't know God was a dog. They told you all sorts of bullshit, but now, eternal chew toy, know the truth.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:23 pm

When the fuck did Jack get all religious and shit?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:39 pm

You don't believe that dullard actually wrote that, do you?

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:36 pm

Question:

The Falcons are taking a major hit on their salary cap with Vick's $130 million contract. Is that fair? I mean career ending injuries is one thing and I can understand that those contracts stay on the team's cap rate, but something like this should be wiped off the team's cap, right? Why should the Falcons future signings be effected by someone's off-field issues? I think the Falcons should get a reprieve of Vick's contract when it comes to their salary cap.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:40 pm

It should stay there as punishment for having offered that contract in the first place.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:44 pm

RumpleForeskin wrote:Question:

The Falcons are taking a major hit on their salary cap with Vick's $130 million contract. Is that fair? I mean career ending injuries is one thing and I can understand that those contracts stay on the team's cap rate, but something like this should be wiped off the team's cap, right? Why should the Falcons future signings be effected by someone's off-field issues? I think the Falcons should get a reprieve of Vick's contract when it comes to their salary cap.

Maybe next time they'll do some due diligence before offering themselves up for a plungering. Not that you would understand that concept or anything.

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:50 pm

BSmack wrote: Maybe next time they'll do some due diligence before offering themselves up for a plungering.

Perhaps. I was just thinking that dude stayed clean for the most part, but how can you really do a thorough and/or fair due diligence for a lot of players in this league? I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of players out there who roll with a questionable entourage, but they tend to stay out of trouble for the most part. On the other hand, it seems it wouldn't have taken much for Blank to hire a PI before the offering of the big contract and find out about Vick's indiscretions.

But when is enough is enough with teams responsibilities on performing due diligence on their player personnel.

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:51 pm

mvscal wrote:Don't you have a funeral to attend?

I did yesterday. Thanks for asking.

Dog · Post by **Dog** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:55 pm

Frankly I'd rather pound a nail through my untattooed testicle then jerk-off with sand paper than have to suffer through another season of watching this prick incomplete half of his passes. Good freaking riddance.

Get plunger-raped, Vick.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:18 pm

RumpleForeskin wrote: I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of players out there who roll with a questionable entourage, but they tend to stay out of trouble for the most part. On the other hand, it seems it wouldn't have taken much for Blank to hire a PI before the offering of the big contract and find out about Vick's indiscretions.

that's why virtually every team in the NFL has a morals clause in their contracts, to protect themselves against things like this.....I'm assuming that Atlanta will argue that Vick violated the terms of his contract and I'd anticipate the Falcons suing him for part (if not all) of his signing bonus money...

anything they can recover reduces their cap liability for Mr. Mexico proportionately.....

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:31 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:You don't believe that dullard actually wrote that, do you?

Not really a question of who wrote it as much as who's preaching it.

As far as I can recall this is the first jesus freak-ish type post that jack has shat out.

Tiny · Post by **Tiny** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:37 am

I don't really mind the message, I just question why he wasted it on a POS like M. Vick....

I say let the fucker burn...

For all you out there who like to rip on "Christers", I'll admit that my last comment there wasn't very "Christian-like". Well, I guess I just don't get to throw any rocks today. Sue me.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:37 am

When does Poptart make his appearance in this thread?

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:45 am

jiminphilly wrote:When does Poptart make his appearance in this thread?

When it becomes legitimate.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:25 am

Mace,

You mean the real dungeon? For 10 years? That's cruel.

Sin,

m2

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:50 am

jiminphilly wrote:When does Poptart make his appearance in this thread?

Not much else to add, jim.

Mace dinged it into the centerfield cheapies with his post.

And Rumple is out to lunch with his hand-wringing over the Falcon's misfortune.
The 'it's not my fault' attitude has taken deep root in our society.

Atlanta hitched their wagon to a P.O.S.
Tough nuts.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:40 am

RumpleForeskin wrote:
BSmack wrote:Maybe next time they'll do some due diligence before offering themselves up for a plungering.
Perhaps. I was just thinking that dude stayed clean for the most part,

You mean other than running a racketeering enterprise for the past 6 years?

but how can you really do a thorough and/or fair due diligence for a lot of players in this league? I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of players out there who roll with a questionable entourage, but they tend to stay out of trouble for the most part. On the other hand, it seems it wouldn't have taken much for Blank to hire a PI before the offering of the big contract and find out about Vick's indiscretions.

Good job. After a whole lot of handwringing, you got to the correct answer.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:38 pm

I find that people that think everyone should be lenient on a guy like Vick for what he did are usually those types of people that are prone to doing stupid things themselves and would hope they got the same soft treatment when they screw up. Vick broke several laws...he didn't just "kill dogs". The average American that did the same thing as him deserves to be skewered just as much. I don't want to hear this "he whom is without sin" line...mostly because I'm not a person of a given faith and that phrase means very little to me. So, we're supposed to let acts go unpunished because "god" will hand out his punishment in the end and us mortals aren't allowed to police ourselves? Good luck with that.

The Vick situation is treated different because he's got money and social status. You look at him involving himself in illegal and immoral acts...how else are you supposed to react to that than with disgust? In the pecking order of crimes, he didn't kill someone...but to think you can sweep this under the rug because it wasn't the most disgraceful of crimes is the type of attitude that will condone all kinds of small crimes and allow them to go with punishment just because they didn't commit a major felony. Why do we have laws in the first place if we're just going to sweep all the smaller offenses under the rug? I like seeing someone who did bad things get the book thrown at them...regardless of fame, race, gender or religion. If a person breaks the law, they need to face the music and ultimately get dealt a just punishment.

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:20 pm

I think the Falcons losing their posterboy player, ticket sales, merchandise among other things over the next couple of years is enough to go through as an organization. On the other hand, its on them to know their employees. I'm kind of on the fence about it.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:38 pm

RumpleForeskin wrote:I think the Falcons losing their posterboy player, ticket sales, merchandise among other things over the next couple of years is enough to go through as an organization. On the other hand, its on them to know their employees. I'm kind of on the fence about it.

On the fence? Take a side, you fucking Nancy-boy.

Dog · Post by **Dog** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:38 pm

Tiny wrote:I don't really mind the message, I just question why he wasted it on a POS like M. Vick....

I say let the fucker burn...

For all you out there who like to rip on "Christers", I'll admit that my last comment there wasn't very "Christian-like". Well, I guess I just don't get to throw any rocks today. Sue me.

Actually, it was more "Christian-Like" than you know.

/s/ Sodom and Gamorrah

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:50 pm

Dog wrote:
Tiny wrote:I don't really mind the message, I just question why he wasted it on a POS like M. Vick....

I say let the fucker burn...

For all you out there who like to rip on "Christers", I'll admit that my last comment there wasn't very "Christian-like". Well, I guess I just don't get to throw any rocks today. Sue me.
Actually, it was more "Christian-Like" than you know.

/s/ Sodom and Gamorrah

I suppose you’re right. If Tiny wants to play God, that is.

Is God a Christian?

RumpleForeskin · Post by **RumpleForeskin** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:14 pm

You know if it were the Texans, I'd say an inspired "FUCK YOU" to the NFL and tell them to not count Vick's money against the cap. This one incident alone could cost the Falcons another 10 years of not being a contender because of cash restraints. Of course, how would this be any different from their other years of service in the NFL.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:23 pm

RumpleForeskin wrote:You know if it were the Texans, I'd say an inspired "FUCK YOU" to the NFL and tell them to not count Vick's money against the cap. This one incident alone could cost the Falcons another 10 years of not being a contender because of cash restraints. Of course, how would this be any different from their other years of service in the NFL.

Why should anyone give a rat's ass about the Falcon's playoff chances?

Dog · Post by **Dog** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:42 pm

I'm sure Roger Goodall would take that "inspired FUCK YOU" under consideration.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:54 pm

Michael Vick was wrong. He will not play in the NFL for at least 1 season and quite possibly will never play in the NFL again.
He lost $100+ Million due to his cruel and stupid actions.
He has lost countless other millions in endorsement contracts.

I do believe he should go to jail.

The man did the crime and will do the time.

There is too much arm chair angriness going on in the world.

Everyone wants justice for everyone else and mercy for themselves.

Castrating Michael Vick, Electrocuting Michael Vick, Throwing Michael Vick off the top of a building will not bring any dog back to life and will not solve the problem.

Forgiving Vick for his human stupidity and cruelty does not mean let him walk free.

I am just saying show some mercy, let go of your own anger and move on.

PEACE!

Arch Angel · Post by **Arch Angel** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:59 pm

what?

are you on meds?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:05 pm

Jack wrote: I am just saying show some mercy, let go of your own anger and move on.

Are you on drugs?

I'm not angry with Vick. I just don't give a shit about Vick one way or the other. He broke the law, got caught, and now has to pay the price. End of story.

What, I'm supposed to feel some sympathy for the dumbfuck?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:10 pm

Jack wrote:Castrating Michael Vick, Electrocuting Michael Vick, Throwing Michael Vick off the top of a building will not bring any dog back to life and will not solve the problem.

I won't be doing any of the above to Vick. But if someone else does, you can damn sure bet I won't shed any tears for him.

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