I wonder if Weis will get another 10 years added to his deal

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:38 pm

what a fucking joke.

Notre Dame is fucking garbage.

Spare me the rebuilding shit, this is his 3rd year, his kids should be ready to play.

i loved the 8-9 win predictions from domer fans, get fuckin real.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:03 pm

31-0 Michigan at half

rack hart and company for sticking it up fatboys ass.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:06 pm

Wow, 0-2 Mich could have the subs in during the second-half.

Willingham has a better team than Weise while starting a true-frosh at qb.

Nice going Charlie, 10-year contract huh? Sweet.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:08 pm

Danimal wrote:Wow, 0-2 Mich could have the subs in during the second-half.

Willingham has a better team than Weise while starting a true-frosh at qb.

Nice going Charlie, 10-year contract huh? Sweet.

Pinkel>Weis

and that's bad!

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:09 pm

How badly would App St. fuck up Notre Dame!

I've never seen a more inept team than this. Is there any div 1-AA team that Notre Dame could even beat?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:10 pm

JayDuck wrote:How badly would App St. fuck up Notre Dame!

I've never seen a more inept team than this. Is there any div 1-AA team that Notre Dame could even beat?

temple?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:26 pm

ndnation.com, when its sackless pussies of moderators actually start it back up again, will be flooded with douchbags explaining how this is all still ty's fault and making excuses for weis' 10-year deal.

you haven't seen "circle-the-wagons spinning" done so well like ndnation.com does. at least scU-M fans (for the most part) agree that their coach blows. irish fan still believes weis' fat fucking ass descended from the fucking virgin mary herself.

i think i'll have to make a trip to the linebacker tonight to celebrate. haven't been there since school started.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:48 am

The fact DomerNation would be Weis apologists is pretty funny when you consider he was the third or fourth option as their coach in the first place. He pretty much ended up the coach because he was the only that wanted the job and he didn't lie about his past ('sup George O'Leary). Urban Meyer thumbed his nose at them and went down to Gainesville and won a national title within two years on the job. Weis should be given as short of a leash as Ty just so ND doesn't feed into the conspiracy theory that the Willingham early dismissal was based on race.

By no means do I brag about Michigan winning today...this was a one-armed man beating an armless man in a fist fight. For the Irish to have no offensive TDs after three games and to have less than 400 total yards in that stretch is a direct shot at Weis...the supposed offensive genius. Starting to make you think about that "videogate" scandal a little more...you think Weis' credentials were exaggerated because the Pats knew what the other team was doing?

Early pick for next week: Michigan State 35, Notre Dame 3

War someone being worse than you

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:58 am

WOW.......is all I can say....just wow......

Shoalzie: I posted the same thing earlier.....Weis rode Brady to the ND job. I have NEVER seen a top flight program look so inept since FSU-Miami in 1998(or so) when they were on probation. Just overmatched/outcoached. Terrible everything.

ndfan: That's embarrassing. Carr called off the dawgs....Lloyd Carr called off the dogs....HE of all people......that has to tell u something.....

I would like to hear from NDfan(in a non-smack way)....really....I feel sorry for you at this point.....

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:01 am

It's becoming more clear Weis has no business coaching Notre Dame. I think he's got the ability to be a great college coach someday, but he should've started at a lower rung and worked his way up. I think there's a chance that'll be happening.

Yeah, yeah, "rebuilding."

Part of what makes a great coach is working with the players that he does have, and at least not producing a grid iron laughing stock.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:10 am

Weis just needs to recruit better a/v personnel.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:11 am

Now the question looms: when will ND win a game?

Here's the rest of the schedule

9/22 Michigan St
9/29 @ Purdue
10/6 @ UCLA
10/13 Boston College
10/20 USC
11/3 Navy
11/10 Air Force
11/17 Duke
11/24 @ Stanford

Wow. On paper it looks as if ND might not win until the freaking Navy game. Even then, that's no guarantee.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:12 am

orcinus wrote:Weis just needs to recruit better a/v personnel.

No shite. He needs to start making under the table deals with Google Earth.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:23 am

This is his(weis) THIRD year.....Tebow and Harvin were the stars on the field today @ UF.....they are TRUE SOPHs. Weis should have SOME recruits in place. You CANNOT blame anything on TY at this point.

Again, what is he doing.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:42 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Yeah, yeah, "rebuilding."

don't you read the papers, motherfucker? charlie said the day he utters the word "rebuilding," will be the day he is no longer head coach at ND, because ND doesn't rebuild.

x1000

he'd rather be 0-12 than admit he's "rebuilding." while he's at it, he should probably admit that he needs to stop trying to outscheme opposing teams with his junior high quality talent on the field.

but i have to give mt. rumplewife's long lost twin brother some credit: it's been refreshing to hear the fat ass talk to the media with out the condesending arrogance of the past two seasons when the irish were, you know, playing in bcs games they didn't deserve to be in. i never thought humility was in any hunk of flesh in weis' over-glandular body until this season.

and he still won't let freshmen or his qb's talk to the media. eat a dick, you fat fuck.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:45 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:don't you read the papers, motherfucker? charlie said the day he utters the word "rebuilding," will be the day he is no longer head coach at ND, because ND doesn't rebuild. x1000

he'd rather be 0-12 than admit he's "rebuilding." while he's at it, he should probably admit that he needs to stop trying to outscheme opposing teams with his junior high quality talent on the field.

Don't get so ahead of yourself there, sparky. It was a reference to what's been uttered on this board.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:10 pm

ndfan?

chirp, chirp......

(crickets)

Wow.....just wow....

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:17 pm

They are a wreck now and it's his fault. Happy.
There are very few contributing seniors on this team. The kids that are juniors were part of his first recruiting class that was not really his. Granted it's his responsibility to coach these kids up and get them to a level where they can compete. It's not happening now and he will take the blame for it. I see a lot of underclassmen at several schools who are doing a great job. Why not at ND. I'm not an Nd apologist but things right now are looking very bleak. Maybe 4 wins this year......

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:30 pm

Laxplayer wrote:They are a wreck now and it's his fault. Happy.
There are very few contributing seniors on this team. The kids that are juniors were part of his first recruiting class that was not really his. Granted it's his responsibility to coach these kids up and get them to a level where they can compete. It's not happening now and he will take the blame for it. I see a lot of underclassmen at several schools who are doing a great job. Why not at ND. I'm not an Nd apologist but things right now are looking very bleak. Maybe 4 wins this year......

Yes. Yes I am.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:41 pm

very few contributing seniors????

Is this some type of reference to TY willingham?

If so, you are a severe moron and getting everything you deserve....if not.....well your team flat out sucks....and so does weis right now.....

Remember...never, ever a head coach on any level......uh-oh......

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:48 pm

I like ND 364 days of the year.

Weis should have acknowledged that this would be a rebuilding year. Instead he's gone out and affirmatively stated that it isn't. I happen to buy into the stuff about Ty leaving nothing there - but ND's sloppy play is clearly on Weis' shoulders. It hurt to watch them yesterday.

ND will be back, but it's going to hurt. This could be a three-win season. Fuck me running.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:50 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote: This could be a three-win season.

homer

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:53 pm

I know it's a little early, but I'm callin' my shot now.

Notre Dame will beat Duke. Bank on it, motherfuckers!

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:21 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote:I like ND 364 days of the year.

Weis should have acknowledged that this would be a rebuilding year. Instead he's gone out and affirmatively stated that it isn't. I happen to buy into the stuff about Ty leaving nothing there - but ND's sloppy play is clearly on Weis' shoulders. It hurt to watch them yesterday.

ND will be back, but it's going to hurt. This could be a three-win season. Fuck me running.

ND sucking actually costs you BCS points in your SoS.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:36 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Now the question looms: when will ND win a game?

Here's the rest of the schedule

10/6 @ UCLA

Wow. On paper it looks as if ND might not win until the freaking UCLA game. Even then, that's a guarantee.

FTFY-NC

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:08 pm

very few contributing seniors????

Is this some type of reference to TY willingham?

If so, you are a severe moron and getting everything you deserve....if not.....well your team flat out sucks....and so does weis right now.....

Oh Rixie, allow me to pimp slap you around a bit here......
Seniors on ND's roster include.
Joe Brockington
John Carlson
Trevor Laws
Geoffrey Price....a punter.
Dwight Stevenson
John Sullivan
Travis Thomas
Ambose Wooden
Tom Zibikowski

Now from that list I don't see many guys that are contributing. Zibby and Wooden get burned more that toast left in the toaster. Carlson doesn't get the ball thrown to him because the O-line can't protect anyone. So please with your incredible amount of expertise show me ANY contributing seniors on this roster that are helping.

The fact is that Weis has two recruiting classes on the team right now. His first was basically Tys last because Weis was still with the Pats. Even someone like you can figure that out. Now does he have to accept responsibility for their performance? Hell yes, but as you know from your vast coaching experience that one coach doesn't coach all the players. A lot of head coaches have their system and they implement it and let the coaches coach. They oversee the coaches. Weis doesn't coach the O-line, Weis doesn't coach the defense. I think you may actually be able to understand that, but I'm not really sure.
Most realistic ND fans know this is a process that is going to take another year or two. His class that have verballed this year is as impressive as most. I've seen a few of those kids play in person and they will come in and help. Can all this be blamed on TY? No and only the unrealistic ND fans are doing that, however there is a hangover affect from his lack of recruiting. Look at the seniors? How many contributing seniors does Florida, LSU, etc....have? Probably a few more than ND......and I'm the moron, and yes I know they suck.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:09 pm

very few contributing seniors????

Is this some type of reference to TY willingham?

If so, you are a severe moron and getting everything you deserve....if not.....well your team flat out sucks....and so does weis right now.....

Oh Rixie, allow me to pimp slap you around a bit here......
Seniors on ND's roster include.
Joe Brockington
John Carlson
Trevor Laws
Geoffrey Price....a punter.
Dwight Stevenson
John Sullivan
Travis Thomas
Ambose Wooden
Tom Zibikowski

Now from that list I don't see many guys that are contributing. Zibby and Wooden get burned more that toast left in the toaster. Carlson doesn't get the ball thrown to him because the O-line can't protect anyone. So please with your incredible amount of expertise show me ANY contributing seniors on this roster that are helping.

The fact is that Weis has two recruiting classes on the team right now. His first was basically Tys last because Weis was still with the Pats. Even someone like you can figure that out. Now does he have to accept responsibility for their performance? Hell yes, but as you know from your vast coaching experience that one coach doesn't coach all the players. A lot of head coaches have their system and they implement it and let the coaches coach. They oversee the coaches. Weis doesn't coach the O-line, Weis doesn't coach the defense. I think you may actually be able to understand that, but I'm not really sure.
Most realistic ND fans know this is a process that is going to take another year or two. His class that have verballed this year is as impressive as most. I've seen a few of those kids play in person and they will come in and help. Can all this be blamed on TY? No and only the unrealistic ND fans are doing that, however there is a hangover affect from his lack of recruiting. Look at the seniors? How many contributing seniors does Florida, LSU, etc....have? Probably a few more than ND......and I'm the moron, and yes I know they suck.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:14 pm

Yep...its Ty's fault you haven't scored an offensive TD this season....THREE weeks in....yep....

Rationalize it all you want domehead......you got a raw deal....no....you gave yourselves a raw deal....

ND fan is religiously defending this guy and you look like a high school team out there....

Bang on your own....you are terrible in all three phases and your "hangover" theory has nothing to do with poor execution.

nd=embarrassing

Have a wonderful day dude.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:43 pm

Yep...its Ty's fault you haven't scored an offensive TD this season....THREE weeks in....yep....
Rationalize it all you want domehead......you got a raw deal....no....you gave yourselves a raw deal....
ND fan is religiously defending this guy and you look like a high school team out there....
Bang on your own....you are terrible in all three phases and your "hangover" theory has nothing to do with poor execution.
nd=embarrassing
Have a wonderful day dude.

Did I say it was Ty's fault? No dip shit. I'm just looking for reasons why this team isn't performing. Granted I don't have the access to the program that you do so I just try and use logic. The reality is this: CW has two recruiting classes on this team that he is solely responsible for. Ty didn't stockpile talent like some other teams have. Zook did it at Fla and Meyer came into a very different situation than Weis. Many ND fans are defending him because he's a good football coach. It's funny that the worst coaches seem to have mediocre talent and the best coaches have the best talent. Nobody said that ND was going to win the national championship this year, in fact most logically thinking ND fans knew this was going to be a tough year. Weis probably refused to use the rebuilding term so his kids would have a different attitude coming into the year. If the head coach comes out and states that they're rebuilding then why should kids put forth effort?
My day has been wonderful.....woke about 8:00, changed the brake pads on my wifes car, got laid, now watching some football. Heading out for my daughter's soccer game, gonna grill some burgers later and watch the Pats and Bolts, along with the Yanks and Sox...probably gonna get laid again, but thanks for the warm wishes.

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:47 pm

Laxplayer wrote:
Yep...its Ty's fault you haven't scored an offensive TD this season....THREE weeks in....yep....
Rationalize it all you want domehead......you got a raw deal....no....you gave yourselves a raw deal....
ND fan is religiously defending this guy and you look like a high school team out there....
Bang on your own....you are terrible in all three phases and your "hangover" theory has nothing to do with poor execution.
nd=embarrassing
Have a wonderful day dude.

Did I say it was Ty's fault? No dip shit. I'm just looking for reasons why this team isn't performing. Granted I don't have the access to the program that you do so I just try and use logic. The reality is this: CW has two recruiting classes on this team that he is solely responsible for. Ty didn't stockpile talent like some other teams have. Zook did it at Fla and Meyer came into a very different situation than Weis. Many ND fans are defending him because he's a good football coach. It's funny that the worst coaches seem to have mediocre talent and the best coaches have the best talent. Nobody said that ND was going to win the national championship this year, in fact most logically thinking ND fans knew this was going to be a tough year. Weis probably refused to use the rebuilding term so his kids would have a different attitude coming into the year. If the head coach comes out and states that they're rebuilding then why should kids put forth effort?
My day has been wonderful.....woke about 8:00, changed the brake pads on my wifes car, got laid, now watching some football. Heading out for my daughter's soccer game, gonna grill some burgers later and watch the Pats and Bolts, along with the Yanks and Sox...probably gonna get laid again, but thanks for the warm wishes.

Dude I think you are being optimistic but that's ok. Dreams are free. Good luck with your endeavor.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:01 pm

Laxplayer wrote: I'm just looking for reasons why this team isn't performing.

Blame is everywhere but Weis.....you make excuse after excuse for the guy. It's fucking hysterical.

Re-read your own shit.....you're a Weis apologist and then some. Somehow he seems to dodge any criticism in your whacked out little head. Ok........sure.....buddy......whatever you say.....its Ty, the o-line coach, the players, the recruiting classes, the cupboard is bare, the dog ate the playbook......whatever makes you feel that you didn't make a bad hire....

Oh shit....there's one.....bad hire.....uh-oh......better skip that one, you won't likey.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:18 pm

Of course this is a rebuilding year but ND flat-out SUCKS. No TD's by the O? Hell Buffalo has a better O, how can you spin that? A 1AA-program drilled Mich's D but ND can't score? Weis hasn't put-out a solid D yet. Ya this season should be a struggle but come-on, they are getting dominated and playing no better than a MAC or SBC-team. A well-coached ND-team still wouldn't be good due to the inexperience but they would be respectable.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:53 pm

I stopped comparing Meyer to Weis because it sjust not fair to do so.....I did read this today though....

I think its very relevant to your THEORY:

"Florida wasn't supposed to be this good this fast. The Gators have only 10 seniors and 11 juniors. They've played 27 freshmen in their first three games. More than 70 percent of Florida's roster is composed of freshmen and sophomores.

Hmmmmm.......basically TWO recruiting classes.....keep spinning spider......

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:06 pm

We did it with 1 recruiting class.

Sin,

Bob Stoops and Jim Tressel

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:52 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote:This could be a three-win season. Fuck me running.

We agree.

Sin,

NBC

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:27 am

Let's see....I wrote this.....

Now does he have to accept responsibility for their performance? Hell yes,

...and you wrote this....

Blame is everywhere but Weis.....you make excuse after excuse for the guy. It's fucking hysterical.

I'm sorry, where didn't I write that he has to take responsibility? He's not the only one coaching asshole. There are others. The blame does fall on him, however there is plenty to go around for why this team sucks. I'm just trying to point out to you that one person doesn't deserve all the blame just like one person doesn't deserve all the credit.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:48 am

Listen, anyone on here can see the excuses hidden within your posts.

I am NOT arguing with nd fan on who deserves the most blame. That's just stupid. Your team sucks. Weis is the coach. Thank god you guys are going back to preseason camp.......wtf?????

Yep, just start over.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:12 am

I am NOT arguing with nd fan on who deserves the most blame. That's just stupid. Your team sucks. Weis is the coach

I'm an ND fan, and you're arguing with me. Way to go. They're not MY team. I root for them. I hold no ownership within the university. Now, does ND suck? Yep, but we've already gone over that one. Weis is the coach. Fantastic..... you're getting better. Keep up the good work. ND will win maybe 4-5 games this year and this may also be the year that Navy ends their streak. Why do you ask Rixie....because ND sucks right now.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:49 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
orcinus wrote:Weis just needs to recruit better a/v personnel.
No shite. He needs to start making under the table deals with Google Earth.

Worked for us. Check out our proprietary software.

/s/ SEC