Texans - Colts

[RumpleForeskin]

No Andre Johnson for the Texans will be tough to overcome, but Gary Kubiak knows how to run the ball effectively against the Colts and Matt Schaub is far better than David Carr. Houston has played Indy pretty tough at home by containing that offense to an extent except for the Texan's 2-14 campaign back in '05 which Indy blasted the Texans defense for 38 points. Other than that, Indy's totals in Reliant are nothing the Texans can't overcome:

2002: 23-3
2003: 20-17
2004: 23-14
2005: 38-20
2006: 24-27 (Win for the Texans)

Throw out 2005 as Indy was at its peak and Houston was at its all-time low and its very apparent that the Texans hang with Indy when the game is played at Reliant. The defense is much improved and Indy just got done playing a very physical game against the Titans. I think its realistic that the Texans will be in this game until the bitter end, but I think Peyton will find a way to win. The defensive scheme Richard Smith ran against the Cheifs and Panthers will not work at all against Indy, so game planning for the quick release of Manning and his shotgun style of offense makes for a long day for the secondary. The only thing I think the Texans can do is shutdown the running game. If they can contain Addai, then Manning will be forced to throw more which isn't necessarily a good thing.

As for Schaub and the offense, well a heavy dose of Green and Dayne should be Kubiak's primary formula. If they have success early, then take some shots downfield with Jacoby Jones and Jerome Mathis. For the most part, shorten the game a lot by dump offs to the backs and 5-10 yard routes to Owen Daniels and Kevin Walter. Scoring fast and often will play into the Colts hands and we are not capable of getting into a shootout with them.

I think this game will stay in the low 20s coming down to a final posession for the Colts who will come from behind to win it on a late fieldgoal or touchdown.

Colts 24
Texans 21

[T REX]

Throw out 2005 as Indy was at its peak

I was led to believe that a World Championship was "peak"....

[RevLimiter]

Throw out 2005 as Indy was at its peak

I was led to believe that a World Championship was "peak"....

I'm pretty sure Rumps meant Indy was at it's peak offensive numbers-wise, Genius.

[Dinsdale]

Gary Kubiak knows how to run the ball effectively against the Colts

Dude -- Indy's opponents averaged 4.1 a carry last season.

Wow, that Kubiak is sure a genius, for having figured out how to run against the Colts...

1) Draw up basic running play

2) Call said running play

3) Snap ball, hand off to running back



PURE. FUCKING. GENIUS.


This is your whole basis for your wannabe informed prognostication? That someone ran the ball successfully against the Colts?

Holy smokes, we've got a live one here.

[RumpleForeskin]

Throw out 2005 as Indy was at its peak

I was led to believe that a World Championship was "peak"....

I'm pretty sure Rumps meant Indy was at it's peak offensive numbers-wise, Genius.

Word.

[Headhunter]

Wow, that Kubiak is sure a genius, for having figured out how to run against the Colts...

It's possible other teams catch on to this.

[RumpleForeskin]

There is a difference between running the ball effectively and running the ball successfully without being all that effective. Houston ran the ball effectively because they kept Peyton Manning off the field. Houston held posession 11 minutes more than the Colts did. Only one other game last year had a bigger disparity between the Colts and their opponents, so when I say Kubiak knows how to run the ball against the Colts, I am talking about he knows how to keep Peyton Manning off the field for a substantial amount of time. Most other teams who had success running the ball didn't control the clock as well as the Texans did against the Colts. Sure, its great to bust out a 66 yard run and take it to the house, but that just creates another opportunity for Peyton to take the field. Sure, that other teams may have better statistics in the running game, but it was done with fewer running plays and was inconsistent at times. If you were going to play the Colts, would you want 20 carries and 220 yards or 45 carries and 220 yards. I would take the latter because I know our team will probably have a better chance at winning against the Colts if OUR offense is on the field for the most part.

[RumpleForeskin]

So the secret to running the ball effectively is to be ineffective running the ball?

How do you figure? Running the ball 45 times for 220 yards is indeed effective. There is not a coach out there who wouldn't take a 4.8 YPC in a game. In fact, I'm pretty sure every NFL coach would take this formula over anything else.

[Goober McTuber]

I’m pretty sure every coach in the NFL would settle for you picking their opponent to win.

[RumpleForeskin]

I’m pretty sure every coach in the NFL would settle for you picking their opponent to win.

What? You think running the ball and controlling the clock would chalk up more Ls than Ws? What planet are you freaking people from?

[Goober McTuber]

I just think you’re generally an idiot.

[BSmack]

If you were going to play the Colts, would you want 20 carries and 220 yards or 45 carries and 220 yards. I would take the latter because I know our team will probably have a better chance at winning against the Colts if OUR offense is on the field for the most part.

So if your guy was in the open field with nothing but daylight ahead of him, you would want him to run out of bounds so you can run more running plays or cash in the TD? 20 carries for 220 yards (aside from being almost unattainable, would be absolutely fucking superior to 45 for 220.

BTW: The Texans will do neither this week.

[Headhunter]

Now I'm confused. Is that running the ball successfully or is that being effective?

[RumpleForeskin]

So if your guy was in the open field with nothing but daylight ahead of him, you would want him to run out of bounds so you can run more running plays or cash in the TD?

No, of course not. Get the points, but running between the tackles with a bigger back usually won't translate to 40 and 50 yard gains.

20 carries for 220 yards (aside from being almost unattainable, would be absolutely fucking superior to 45 for 220.

Depends on who your opponent is. If your are playing against a high powered offense such as the Colts, then 45 carries for 220 is superior to 20 carries for 220 yards.

BTW: The Texans will do neither this week.

Probably not, but its possible.

[Dinsdale]

Sure, its great to bust out a 66 yard run and take it to the house, but that just creates another opportunity for Peyton to take the field.

Just wanted to do my part and help out, so I figured I'd quote that to make it easy for everyone to C&P... since I have a strange feeling this quote will be cited often.


Sheer fucking genius.

And if you score against NE, it just creates another opportunity for Brady to take the field.

And if you score against the Vikings, you're just putting Quadreveon Purvis, or whatever his name is, back on the field.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The key to effectiveness is to try not to be too successful. You can do this by trying to not score a lot of points.

Ok. This is good stuff so far. Let's keep going.

[RumpleForeskin]

The key to effectiveness is to try not to be too successful. You can do this by trying to not score a lot of points.

Ok. This is good stuff so far. Let's keep going.

Everyone wants to patronize me. Cool.

So what you're saying is that the Texans have a better shot at winning a shootout against the Colts than winning a low scoring affair. Yeah, that usually bodes well for all Indy opponents when the game ends up being 45-42.

[BSmack]

The key to effectiveness is to try not to be too successful. You can do this by trying to not score a lot of points.

Ok. This is good stuff so far. Let's keep going.

Everyone wants to patronize me. Cool.

So what you're saying is that the Texans have a better shot at winning a shootout against the Colts than winning a low scoring affair. Yeah, that usually bodes well for all Indy opponents when the game ends up being 45-42.

There is of course the option of having a defense capable of holding the Colts to under 40 points.

Or is that too much for you to comprehend?

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Whoa, whoa. Settle down. Let's not get too ahead of Foreskin here. One thing at a time. Today we'll cover why you should score when you have the ball. Maybe tomorrow we'll tackle the notion of trying to stop the opposing team's offense from scoring when your defense is on the field.

[T REX]

I was led to believe that a World Championship was "peak"....

I'm pretty sure Rumps meant Indy was at it's peak offensive numbers-wise, Genius.

Word.

Well that about sums it up.....

[dotdotdot]

More Carries = More time off the clock = Less time Manning is on the field.

Texans have a decent D, but no way do they hold the Colts to under 17.

They gotta run for at least 190 and pass for another 250 to have a shot at this game, all the while controlling the clock for....oh let's say, 40 minutes. That gives Peyton enough time to score 28.

Follow?

Yeah, neither do I.

EDIT - The Texans should totally water down the field before the game.

[War Wagon]

Everyone wants to patronize me. Cool.

Correction.

Everyone wants to clown you.

Not cool.

[poptart]

Like Mace, Luther, my dad, etc .... I don't believe the Texans can accomplish much with their Johnson out.

But as Rumps is selling, yeah, I think Houston will play 'em sort of tough.


Colts - 23
Texans - 19

[dotdotdot]

I think they can win the game, if they run the ball effectively AND successfully, get a breakout game from Jacoby Jones and/or Jerome Mathis/Andre Davis, and they get a few turnovers.

The Colts DO need to be aware of Owen Daniels.
IFF the Texans establish a good running game (like it was said earlier, they're facing the Colts shit run D), then you can look for play action and Daniels running a skinny post or seam a couple times during this game.

Other than that, coat Mathis' hands with stick'em, run the play action, tell that jigga to run, and hope for the best.

[Goober McTuber]

To carry CrumpledFuckstain’s logic to it’s....well....logical conclusion, the Texans best chance would be to run the ball 130 times for 220 yards.

[Headhunter]

Actually it would be to run the ball. 2.51 yards per carry and go for it on every 4th down, use no timeouts, and run the play clock down to 1 on every damn play.

[RumpleForeskin]

Actually it would be to run the ball. 2.51 yards per carry and go for it on every 4th down, use no timeouts, and run the play clock down to 1 on every damn play.

Yeah, thats what I said. You and Goobs just outed yourselves as trolls. Congrats.

[RumpleForeskin]

Looks like Scouts Inc. agrees with my prediction...

How can Houston win the game without WR Andre Johnson in the lineup?
Houston offensive coordinator Mike Sherman has his hands full this week trying to compensate for the absence of his best receiver. Jacoby Jones will play a bigger role in the passing attack, as will the rest of the skill players on offense. It will be up to Sherman to find a way to distribute the ball to keep the Indianapolis defense guessing and off-balance. Jones may be asked to stretch the defense vertically in the same way Johnson does, TE Owen Daniels will run the option and stick routes in the middle of the field along with a few routes to the flat, and RBs Ahman Green and Vonta Leach will catch the angle routes and swing passes out of the backfield.

Still, with Indianapolis once again struggling to stop the run (123.5 ypg) this could be the week for Sherman & Co. to try to grind the ball on the ground with 22 personnel (2 TEs, 2), which would leave the need for only one wideout. Quarterback Matt Schaub can still execute play-action passes out of this look, but even all of these options together will not be enough to overcome Johnson's absence. This will be a difficult game to win for the Texans.

What will be the key to success for the Texans' defense?
Keeping the Indianapolis run game in check will help the Texans in their efforts to beat the Colts, but finding a way to contain and confuse QB Payton Manning is the task most NFL defenses find the bigger challenge. In order for Texans to keep Manning and offense on their heels defensive coordinator Richard Smith will have to really study Manning's tendencies and have two defensive calls ready to go on every play in order to counter Manning's audibles.

Instead of allowing the Colts' offense to dictating the game the role has to be flipped and Houston's defense needs to have the Colts offense play its hands. This can be done by disguising coverage or showing blitz late in Manning's cadence then backing out into normal coverage. Williams and the rest of the defensive line, including rookie DT Amobi Okoye, will have their hands full trying to beat the Indianapolis offensive line with a four-man rush in order to save the manpower to defend the talented Indy receivers.

Which phase of the game can tip the scales toward Houston?
The Texans have an advantage in special teams despite the fact that the Colts have one of the best kickers in history in Adam Vinatieri. All other phases of special teams favor Houston and could give the Texans enough of a field position advantage to allow them to put some points on the board.

The kickoff return unit featuring returner Jerome Mathis has been dangerous in the past and must be even better against the Colts. Mathis is a threat to score due to his ability to bend the return and outrun contain, and he is known for drawing the coverage unit in tight and then bouncing to the outside.

Jones can also be an important factor on punt returns with LBs Charlie Anderson and Zach Diles, along with Mathis, doing a solid job of getting upfield and putting pressure on the punter. Hurried kicks that don't allow the coverage to get downfield or a blocked punt could help turn this game in Houston's favor.


The loss of Johnson will prevent the Texans from winning this game. The Houston coaching staff will do an excellent job of preparing the Texans but they will come up short against the Colts. It will be a close game but mistakes by Houston will be costly as the Texans will likely have trouble with an overwhelming Indianapolis passing attack. Manning is used to distributing the ball to all of his skill players and that should be enough to keep the Texans secondary and linebackers guessing. The Colts have an exceptional offensive line, led by center Jeff Saturday, which should be able to keep the Texans off Manning and allow him to find playmaking WRs Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.


Prediction: Colts 24, Texans 21

[Headhunter]

Open your fucking ears, you stupid fucking twat. EVERYBODY on this planet knows the game plan to beat the Colts is to run the ball. Not one fucking person has said otherwise. That you think this is some sort of revelation that Gary Kubiak has brought down from the hills is what lets every other single poster in here know what a ridiculous freaking tard you are.

The fact that you're too big a tard for stucknut doesn't bode well for your chances of sticking around here, unless your plan is to strut around like a plunger peacock with your daily offerings shoved right back up your ass.

Before you start calling out posters who have been together for damn close to a decade as trolls, you might want to educate yourself on what the fuck you are talking about. First, I don't think you really even understand what a trolls is, and second, it sure as fuck isn't goobs or myself.

I'm a troll. That's fucking rich.

Crawl back to whatever rock it is that you came from and quit cluttering our board with useless tripe.


Calling me a troll is getting real fucking close to the dumbest thing you've uttered, and believe me, that's saying a lot.

[RumpleForeskin]

Open your fucking ears, you stupid fucking twat.

This is funny coming from someone who has their ears grabbed daily. A Tide pen should make the grass stains less noticeable.

EVERYBODY on this planet knows the game plan to beat the Colts is to run the ball. Not one fucking person has said otherwise. That you think this is some sort of revelation that Gary Kubiak has brought down from the hills is what lets every other single poster in here know what a ridiculous freaking tard you are.

Okay, I'll attest that stating "other teams should catch onto this" was a poor choice of words, but I still stand by my premise that Kubiak and Sherman ran the ball in the most effective way that you can against the Colts by eliminating Peyton Manning's number of posessions. I have asked a number of people off this board about effectively running against the Colts. ALL of them agreed (including a damn good high-school football coach who I talked to last night) that the Texans would have a better chance of beating the Colts with a rushing line of 45 for 220 rather than a more eyepopping line of 20 for 220.

Before you start calling out posters who have been together for damn close to a decade as trolls, you might want to educate yourself on what the fuck you are talking about. First, I don't think you really even understand what a trolls is, and second, it sure as fuck isn't goobs or myself.

Whatever. I can't take you and Goobs at all serious on this particular subject because its impossilbe for the both of you to be this fucking ignorant. Oh wait....maybe it is indeed possible.

[RevLimiter]

Colts- 31
Texans- 13

[Dinsdale]

ALL of them agreed (including a damn good high-school football coach who I talked to last night) that the Texans would have a better chance of beating the Colts with a rushing line of 45 for 220 rather than a more eyepopping line of 20 for 220.

Tards of a feather flock together, I suppose.

Why don't you ask Coach Kubiak if he'd rather average 11YPC, or 4.9?

Let's see -- average a first freaking down+ every time you hand it off, or leave yourself with a 2nd and 6...


Hmmm, tough call, strategy-wise. Wait... no, it isn't.

You are truly a fucking retard.

[BSmack]

Tards of a feather flock together, I suppose.

Why don't you ask Coach Kubiak if he'd rather average 11YPC, or 4.9?

Let's see -- average a first freaking down+ every time you hand it off, or leave yourself with a 2nd and 6...

Hmmm, tough call, strategy-wise. Wait... no, it isn't.

You are truly a fucking retard.

Yep, it's only slightly more retarded than passing off a season ending injury to a team's top linebacker as a good thing.

[RumpleForeskin]

Oh my God, Dins. What the fuck is wrong with all of you people?

A rushing line of 20 for 220 most likely has long runs in it for 30, 50 and 60 yards, so the average is somewhat flawed because of the sporadic nature in the distances of those 20 runs. If you have a rushing line of 45 for 220, chances are you are having moderate success in running the ball and your short and long distances are closer together making the average a true tale of the running game. I guarantee you Kubiak would want 45 for 220 if it meant keeping Peyton Manning off the fucking field. Its quite simple, if you face an offense that is very difficult to stop, then keeping off the field should be your first priority.

[Dinsdale]

Yep, it's only slightly more retarded than passing off a season ending injury to a team's top linebacker as a good thing.

You're clowning yourself, tard.


The Niners top LB is doing just fine, and is quite healthy. Thanks for the concern, though.

You might wanna know wghat you're actually talking about before you pipe up, but that would be so grossly out of character for you, I won't hold my breath.

Besides, that will make the suprise the Niners have in store for the Squealers that much more sweet, when they've never even heard of the guy who's laying an asswhooping on them.

[WolverineSteve]

Scoring more points than the opponent might help. 20-220 is going to get you in the painted grass plenty of times. But if any fucking coach stopped running the ball after 20 carries with these sort of results, he should be taken outback and made to yodel in Mt.Rumplewife's canyon. Rump's got a bit of a point, the same point every player, coach, fan, cheerleader, and anyone whoever watched a game...t.o.p. is a key to success. It does not trump the scoreboard however.

[Dinsdale]

Its quite simple, if you face an offense that is very difficult to stop, then keeping off the field should be your first priority.

Holy fuck, you're an idiot.


OK, here's some Football 101 for you...


after 60 minutes, the team with the most points wins the game. This has actually become a pretty long standing tradition in football, and many other sports, as well.


So, now that we've established that the team that scores the most points wins, let's get to the complicated stuff...


OK. So when you score, be it by a pass, a long run, or grinding it out with short gains, you then have to kickoff.

Following so far? Good.

Guess what? You just put Manning back on the field.


OK, now for the "math" portion of the lesson (I know, I know... you were told there would be no math)...

However many times you score, the opponent is given an equal number of chances to score. Unless you're planning on trying an onside kick every single time.


Then again, there IS a way to create an inequal number of scoring opportunities...

Can you take a big fat guess as to what that is, Rumps?

That's right... I'm proud of you. "Turnovers" was indeed the correct answer.


So, now that we've covered some basics, are you ready for the Final Exam?


OK.... here we go...


When facing an offensive juggernaut like Indy, which of the following is more likely to produce a win?

A) Force as many turnovers as possible

B) Try and keep your yards-per-rush average as low as possible

C) Onside kick at every opportunity

D) Both B and C



The test, much like your wife's FUPA, will be graded on a curve.

[Dinsdale]

At least you can see management working with the Mario Williams pick last year. It was the right call when you face Peyton Manning twice every year.

Huh? Are you crazy?


I'd say Reggie Bush, with his absolutely gaudy career yards-per-carry average of 3.6 sounds like he'd fit much better into the "Kubiak" Master Plan for beating Indy.

Have you learned nothing from this thread?

[Headhunter]

Yep, Ron Dayne and his 4.1 yards-per-carry, although successfully, is not quite as effective as Reggie Bush and his 3.6.


Good looking out, Dins.

[Shine]

Point of clarification please.

Has Rump been effective in this thread posting moronic takes or has he been successful in this thread posting moronic takes???