An Arguement for the XII

[Truman]

Uhm... Oregon lost to the #6 team in the country.

Would that be #6 Kal... Or #6 win and #4 loss Kal, Din's?

Oh, and if memory serves...

That OreGONE loss came at Autzen.

'Least Mizzou's "Quality Loss" came against the #3 team in the Country...

AT Gaylord Family Memorial Stadium. That's in Norman, Dins. As in Oklahoma. As in ON THE ROAD.

Still, funny how the Tigers managed to hold serve at home....

...So, how'd OreGONE do at home this year?

If Mizoou beats KU and OU, guess what? Those two teams will likely not be in the top 10 anymore.

Right. KU falls from #3 to #11, and OU falls from #4 to #12.



[Eddie Murphy in 48Hours]Naw, Man, you're reachin' for shit[/Eddie Murphy in 48 Hours]

But leave it to over-the-top homer to use a completely different set of rules to judge his own conference than he uses to judge the others... priceless.

Er, MY Conference currently sports three BCS Top 5's. Um, are there other rules to judge conferences by that I'm not currently aware? Feel free to post 'em for us Dins. TIA.

Hmmm..... yeah, looks like the B12 is tearing it up, alright.

You know... as long as you don't use statistics or any sort of comparative analysis.

Sagarin? Why, was Lyndon LaRouche busy? Look, pal, your Quacks would be lucky to finish 4th in the XII. Hell, your quarterback is a fraud compared Daniel, Reesing, and Harrell.

You're grippin' Dins. And rightfully so. The XII hangs a clown suit on the PAC and Represents in New Orleans. Content yourself with a "of no consequence" roadie to Pasadena.

[Truman]

These conference arguments are always pointless, however...

Cal beat Tennessee by 20
Arizona State beat Colorado by 20

Lets stop trying to explain than Oklahoma's Colorado loss is justifiable, while downplaying the Pac-10's teams when Colorado played a Pac-10 team this year.

And lets stop trying to argue that Oregon would get run in the SEC when Tennessee's probably going to play in the SEC title game.

Honestly, it doesn't matter. All the arguing is pointless. This is what will happen and none of it is going to change.

If LSU loses a game, Oregon will play a Big-12 team in the BCS title game.
If LSU wins out, and Kansas loses, Oregon will play LSU in the BCS title game.
If LSU wins out, and Kansas wins out, LSU will play Kansas in the BCS title game.

Arguing merit for anything at this point is the biggest waste of your time. Nothing is going to change these things.

It could get "close", but Missouri or Oklahoma aren't going to pass Oregon, in part because of that Colorado game making it nearly impossible for Oklahoma to pass Arizona State, let alone Oregon, in the computers, and because enough voters will stick to the addage of not moving a team down after a win.

Kansas is the only team that can keep Oregon out of the title game, outside of an Oregon loss.

I'm not going to argue about the "merit" of it, though, because it really doesn't matter.

Wishful thinking, DuckFan

See, Mizzou wins over a #3 BCS Kansas and an at worst #3 BCS Oklahoma the following week will most certainly vault the Tigers past the Donalds. Tough to hold votes, 'specially since the Beavers will most likely take you to the wire...

[Dinsdale]

See, Mizzou wins over a #3 BCS Kansas and an at worst #3 BCS Oklahoma the following week will most certainly vault the Tigers past the Donalds.

Wow.


"The team you lost to isn't in the top 10 anymore, but when we beat Kansas, it means we've beaten the #3 team, even though they'll be #19 after their first loss."


Happy trolling, bud.

Tough to hold votes, 'specially since the Beavers will most likely take you to the wire...

You mean the Beavers that lost their horrible QB, and are now going with THE WORST QB in all of D1...

Or is that the Beavs that are without their best (only) reciever?

Or do you mean the Beavs that just lost their only remaining offensive threat with YB losing a wheel?



Yeah, that has "last second FG" written all over it.



Sorry, cheaters -- your gig is up. You guys didn't think you could keep getting over on the PAC, did you? Yeah, that Cash Grab was pretty tough to counter -- by taking an extra week off and scheduling the last game on the same day as your Cash Grabs.


BTW -- KU and Mizzou are well behind The O in the BCS... lost on many of you(bandwagoners) is that they've both played one more game... and still can't rack up enough BCS points to get into the top 2. If you think a leapfrog at this point is a given, then you ain't too bright.

[Dinsdale]

See, Mizzou wins over a #3 BCS Kansas and an at worst #3 BCS Oklahoma the following week will most certainly vault the Tigers past the Donalds.

"Certainly," eh?

You do realize that Mizzou, with their laughable schedule, is behind Arizona State and 3-loss Florida in the computers, right?


With an extra game played over a couple of the teams ahead of them, right?


The computers are even less impressed with Mizzou than the humans are. And they'll be really unimpressed with KU if/when they lose... then the tiny little bit of SoS any of the B12 contenders had goes out the window.

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl... sorry, Misery Fan.

[Dinsdale]

That 3 loss Florida team would be favored over most of the teams ahead of it in the polls.

Just sayin.

If Florida was at home, they'd likely be favored over West Virginia, tOSU, and OU.

On the road...


HA!

Just kidding!


Get it?

See the funny?

I just used the name of an SEC team and "on the road" in the same sentence... get it?


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! RACK ME!!!!!!


Mizzou, Arizona State, and USC would likely be favored, should Florida ever find an airport.

[Mook]

BTW -- KU and Mizzou are well behind The O in the BCS... lost on many of you(bandwagoners) is that they've both played one more game... and still can't rack up enough BCS points to get into the top 2. If you think a leapfrog at this point is a given, then you ain't too bright.

You don't think the human pollsters will move Kansas up in their polls if they win out? If Kansas wins out they will play in the NC game.......if you don't believe this, then you ain't too bright.

[Mook]

If LSU loses a game, Oregon will play a Big-12 team in the BCS title game.
If LSU wins out, and Kansas loses, Oregon will play LSU in the BCS title game.
If LSU wins out, and Kansas wins out, LSU will play Kansas in the BCS title game.

I agree 100%.

[War Wagon]

The team you lost to isn't in the top 10 anymore, but when we beat Kansas, it means we've beaten the #3 team, even though they'll be #19 after their first loss."

Huh?

Put down the Thai stick, Dins.

Assuming that MU and KU both take care of business this Saturday, then the loser of the game at Arrowhead will NOT drop out of the Top 10.

No way, no how.

[RadioFan]

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl... sorry, Misery Fan.

I'm assuming you mean the MNC here. Two and maybe three Big 12 teams likely will be in BCS bowl games this year.

[Goober McTuber]

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl... sorry, Misery Fan.

I'm assuming you mean the MNC here. Two and maybe three Big 12 teams likely will be in BCS bowl games this year.

Huh? They change the rules this year?

[RadioFan]

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl... sorry, Misery Fan.

I'm assuming you mean the MNC here. Two and maybe three Big 12 teams likely will be in BCS bowl games this year.

Huh? They change the rules this year?

Nope. My bad. Wishful thinking. :D

[Adelpiero]

It will be very tough for MU to move up into #2 spot.

but guess what, who gives a fuck. They have a shot at a BCS bowl or a new years day bowl, something that is huge for this program. It's huge for the fans, and especially the lifers who have watched the program run right into the shitters yearly, with no remorse or care.

You want to say Illy st was a weak game, no problem, i bitched about last season when i found out. But Illinois,Ole Miss on road(since sec is nailz), and western michigan isnt exactly chop liver. The shame of it, is Alden and PInkel are pussing away from 2 BCS ooc games, they are now only putting 1 on schedule. Fucking garbage, and the fans arent happy, who the fuck wants to pay premium prices to see SEMO next season. Oh well, im enjoying this season, i've whipped Pinkel on this board like a step bitch, i might have to eat crow, he's finally,"SHOW ME", and i might have seen the Stinkel light.

Dins,

Please spare me with the Misery stuff, i'd expect that from team tard(crown-sissyroo), but atleast bring something new and not ancient. Christ, i think the bitch on Outlaw Josey wales said Misery. She did say nothign ever good has come out of Missouri, Fuck that jayhawking cunt.


Only team who can possibly move to BCS title game and beat out Oregon is KU. Because it will be 2 wins over top 5BCS teams and 2 top10 teams to end the season, they both should stick to top10ish. But like i said, KU aint winning shit.


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[Truman]

See, Mizzou wins over a #3 BCS Kansas and an at worst #3 BCS Oklahoma the following week will most certainly vault the Tigers past the Donalds.

"The team you lost to isn't in the top 10 anymore, but when we beat Kansas, it means we've beaten the #3 team, even though they'll be #19 after their first loss."

Nailz, Dins.

'Cept a one-loss KU won't be any worse than seventh, and Kal will still be unranked. Hemorrhage much, Spin-sy? Back away from the Quality Loss argument….

Sorry, cheaters -- your gig is up. You guys didn't think you could keep getting over on the PAC, did you?

Sin,

PAC Refs

BTW -- KU and Mizzou are well behind The O in the BCS... lost on many of you(bandwagoners) is that they've both played one more game... and still can't rack up enough BCS points to get into the top 2. If you think a leapfrog at this point is a given, then you ain't too bright.

Lost on QuackFan is that The XII actually plays a prime time Championship Game. Now there's a concept! The two best teams in the league play for the right to represent their Conference in the National Championship Game due to the BCS points racked up by the victor for actually winning the game! What a Country! You PAC-types should really look into this….

You do realize that Mizzou, with their laughable schedule, is behind Arizona State and 3-loss Florida in the computers, right?

What I noticed was that your "computers" (Sagarin) had Kansas listed at #1. Can't have it both ways, Dins. KYOA much?

The computers are even less impressed with Mizzou than the humans are. And they'll be really unimpressed with KU if/when they lose... then the tiny little bit of SoS any of the B12 contenders had goes out the window.

You mean… Somehow Kal all-of-a-sudden got better? Laughable is that you hang your hat on w's over teams that lost to the likes of Coal Miner's Daughter State and Free the Tree's University.

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl... sorry, Misery Fan.

Translation: [Desperation] Gawd, I hope OU wins…[/Desperation].

But rest easy Dins: 6 x 1 ¼ deck screws oughtta do a bitchin' job supporting that new shower rack of yours after Mizzou runs the table. 'Sayin'.

[Dinsdale]

You don't think the human pollsters will move Kansas up in their polls if they win out? If Kansas wins out they will play in the NC game.......if you don't believe this, then you ain't too bright.

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl.

Yeah, I guess one of us ain't too bright, eh?

Assuming that MU and KU both take care of business this Saturday, then the loser of the game at Arrowhead will NOT drop out of the Top 10.

Ohhhhkay, B12 bandwagoner.

I don't think you realize just how badly the pollsters are looking for a reason to send those scabdick schedule-jokers down the where they belong.


And then, we have Tardman...

'Cept a one-loss KU won't be any worse than seventh

Serious question -- do you honestly believe a one-loss team with the 1024th ranked schedule in D3 is going to get a #7 ranking?

Really?


Get the fuck out of here -- people are trying to talk college football.

Hawaii is unbeaten with a JV schedule. How's that working for them?

Kal will still be unranked. Hemorrhage much, Spin-sy? Back away from the Quality Loss argument….

Ok, since you ain't none too bright either, I'll help you out...


Uhm...


The "quality of loss" argument was YOURS.

Remember?

If not, you might wanna go take a long look at the forst post in this thread.

My responses were... are you ready?

Sarcasm, in response to your unbelievably moronic "quality of loss" argument... that you saw fit to start a thread over.

Remember?

Lost on QuackFan is that The XII actually plays a prime time Championship Game. Now there's a concept! The two best teams in the league play for the right to represent their Conference in the National Championship Game due to the BCS points racked up by the victor for actually winning the game! What a Country! You PAC-types should really look into this….

You mean add an extra game to the schedule pitting two teams that have already played, so they can rack up cheesey extra BCS points and still see PAC teams go to BCS bowls over them?


Here's the dealio -- we invented Bowl Games here Out West. WE gave YOU the plan. Either stick to it, or withdraw from OUR bowl system.

Buncha gravytrainers.

What I noticed was that your "computers" (Sagarin) had Kansas listed at #1. Can't have it both ways, Dins. KYOA much?

Tardman...

I'd strongly suggest learning what the fuck you're talking about before you open your Atomic Punksuckers.

Yes, Sagarin indeed has KU at #1.

And if after December 1st, Sagarin still has KU at #1?

It means Sagarin doesn't count for KU.

Tell me you knew?

The computers are even less impressed with Mizzou than the humans are. And they'll be really unimpressed with KU if/when they lose... then the tiny little bit of SoS any of the B12 contenders had goes out the window.

You mean… Somehow Kal all-of-a-sudden got better? Laughable is that you hang your hat on w's over teams that lost to the likes of Coal Miner's Daughter State and Free the Tree's University.[/quote]

Nonsequiturstrawmansayshwat?


Did Kal and Mizzou play, and I didn't hear about it?

Did Michigan and Mizzou play this season? I don't remember that, either.

Because neither happened.

So what, exactly, are you babbling about?

I mentioned that the computers aren't impressed with Mizzou as far as top 2's go(FACT). Your response?

Well... YOU LOST TO KAL!!!!"


Uhm... if X=Y, then the moon is made of green cheese?

What the fuck are you talking about?



:lol:

Kansas is looking like the only team from the 12 that can make the BCS Bowl... sorry, Misery Fan.

Translation: [Desperation] Gawd, I hope OU wins…[/Desperation].

Huh?


Again, explain to me any scenario where, assuming both Oregon and Mizzou win out, that Mizzou will leapfrog Oregon.

And when I say "explain," I don't mean "BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! YOU LOST TO KAL!!!!" I mean, like how Mizzou is going to make up a huge chunk of computer points with a weak schedule... and please bear in mind that reality says that if Mizzou wins out, KU and OU are no longer top-10 teams, assuming those chasing them win out.


You know... like things that are actually relevant to the discussion. You pretty much filled your quota of childish nonsensical rhetoric in one big wad, so try and focus next time, OK?

[War Wagon]

^^^

Spinsdale at his finest.

Gawd, wouldn't it be sweet if MU played Oregon in a Bowl game?

That'd be sweet. Probably won't happen.

Whatever, but I'll look forward to shoving some of that crock right back down your throat in about 3 weeks.

[KC Scott]

I honestly gotta wonder how much Meth Dins is on.

Not for just this incedibly stupid take, but just the need to pontificate on and on in every subject in every thread.

seriously - there has gotta be something going on there

[Dinsdale]

wouldn't it be sweet if MU played Oregon in a Bowl game?

Dude -- Mizzou lost to Oregon's Little Bitch in a bowl last year.


Be careful what you wish for.


I'm still waiting on an explaination of how Mizzou makes up 50,000,000 computer points if every non B12 team ahead of them wins out?

Oh, and please refrain from "will have beaten two top 5 teams." I realize this whole college football thing is new to you, but if that's the case, you're about to learn a little lesson about how you knock the teams you beat down a few notches in the rankings.

[Dinsdale]

Spinsdale at his finest.

BTW-thanks for the laugh.

Truman somehow applies the "logic" of "OREGON LOST TO KAL!!!!" as his basis of why the B12 is being run through by questionable teams, and I'm the one who's "spinning."

Classic.

[RumpleForeskin]

did you see that Tulsa beat Houston 56-7 yesterday?

I drove 8 hours to see that game and I am still crying.

[Terry in Crapchester]

What I noticed was that your "computers" (Sagarin) had Kansas listed at #1. Can't have it both ways, Dins. KYOA much?

Tardman...

I'd strongly suggest learning what the fuck you're talking about before you open your Atomic Punksuckers.

Yes, Sagarin indeed has KU at #1.

And if after December 1st, Sagarin still has KU at #1?

It means Sagarin doesn't count for KU.

Tell me you knew?

They may have changed the rules at some point, but I seem to recall that it was only the low computer ranking for each team that gets tossed for purposes of the BCS standings, not the high one.

[Dinsdale]

For each team, they chuck both the highest and lowest of the computer rankings, which means the average for each actually consists of 4, rather than 5 or 6.

[Vito Corleone]

Uhm... Oregon lost to the #6 team in the country.

Least Mizzou's "Quality Loss" came against the #3 team in the Country...

AT Gaylord Family Memorial Stadium.

Heh, he said Gaylord

[OUMO]

Speaking of gay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4US7L6ypRk4