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indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:37 am

Because it is the rule in CFB. C an't change it in the middle of the game.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:37 am

And that kick was nails.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:38 am

Leaf INT in 3...2...1...

I see many PI's in the future too.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:39 am

IndyFrisco wrote:Because it is the rule in CFB. C an't change it in the middle of the game.

No shit you can't change it in the middle of the game. The question was, why is it even a rule?

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:39 am

IndyFrisco wrote:Leaf INT in 3...2...1...

I see many PI's in the future too.

I was thinking that too.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:41 am

BSmack wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Because it is the rule in CFB. C an't change it in the middle of the game.
No shit you can't change it in the middle of the game. The question was, why is it even a rule?

Why are any rules rules?

Geez.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:43 am

Its nice to see the pac10 refs continue to be inept.

Additionally, this whole second half has been pathetic. Arizona has been playing not to lose since the 3rd quarter started and Oregon and Leaf, well, I don't even need to say anything, do I?

The audacity of Bonds to get indited on the same night AssRod rejoins the Yankees.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:45 am

BSmack wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Because it is the rule in CFB. C an't change it in the middle of the game.
No shit you can't change it in the middle of the game. The question was, why is it even a rule?

Sorry. I thought a stupid question deserved a stupid answer.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:46 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:
BSmack wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Looks like replay will redeem the facemask on the fumble.
What exactly is the point of calling a guy down when he hasn't been downed by contact? I get in in high school, but not for big time D1 football.
Because not everything has to be just like the NFL. Why is the NCAA 3-point line closer than the NFL? Why is the clock not stopped at the 2-minute warning? Why is the clock stopped on a first down?

So the rule is there just to be different?

Sorry, I guess I was hoping one of you "experts" might actually be able to shed some light on the reasoning behind the rule. I guess I expected too much.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:47 am

Why do you only need one foot in bounds for it to be a reception?

Why is it ok to force a player out of bounds to make it an incompletion?

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:47 am

Sky wrote:
The audacity of Bonds to get indited on the same night AssRod rejoins the Yankees.

This isn't Sports Center, fuck Bonds and baseball.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:48 am

Bri,

What was first? College football or the NFL?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:49 am

Obviously IF never took this course at aTm.

http://www-phil.tamu.edu/Philosophy/Courses/PHIL240/

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:52 am

BSmack wrote:Obviously IF never took this course at aTm.

http://www-phil.tamu.edu/Philosophy/Courses/PHIL240/

Oh, thats top notch.

Lets all post a stupid question about football rules and then when we get smacked, look up a link to a random philosophy course at said opponent's school. Clever, yes I am.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:53 am

I didn't take basket weaving either.

Just because the NFL made their rule different than the college rule, and yes, the college rule was in effect before the NFL came in, does not mean the CFB rule has to have a reasoning behind it that differentiates it from the NFL.

Iit is what it is. There's no mathematics or science behind it.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:53 am

Damn I think the whole stadium stormed the field!

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:55 am

Cross Traffic wrote:Damn I think the whole stadium stormed the field!

That was a little disturbing seing the sidelines pile up with students with over 2 minutes to go in the game. A little premature.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:59 am

IndyFrisco wrote:I didn't take basket weaving either.

Oof course not. That class was reserved for the football players.

Just because the NFL made their rule different than the college rule, and yes, the college rule was in effect before the NFL came in, does not mean the CFB rule has to have a reasoning behind it that differentiates it from the NFL.

Iit is what it is. There's no mathematics or science behind it.

You could have just said that nobody knows why the first time. Christ on a crutch you CFB honks are defensive.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:59 am

IndyFrisco wrote:
Cross Traffic wrote:Damn I think the whole stadium stormed the field!
That was a little disturbing seing the sidelines pile up with students with over 2 minutes to go in the game. A little premature.

Yeah but its nice to see a school let their fans celebrate w/ out brining in 100 cops w/ pepper spray (tOSU) or like the SEC where a school gets fined when fans storm the field but they are allowed to throw objects at the players (yeah, that makes sense).

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:01 am

Sky wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:
Cross Traffic wrote:Damn I think the whole stadium stormed the field!
That was a little disturbing seing the sidelines pile up with students with over 2 minutes to go in the game. A little premature.
Yeah but its nice to see a school let their fans celebrate w/ out brining in 100 cops w/ pepper spray (tOSU) or like the SEC where a school gets fined when fans storm the field but they are allowed to throw objects at the players (yeah, that makes sense).

Consider the location of Arizona. They have a lot of experience allowing people to jump fences.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:02 am

Sky,

Don't count your chickens. I would not be surprised in the least to see a fine dropped on AZ for that. That kind of thing should be discouraged. Fans can celebrate in the stands and outside the stadium.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:04 am

Damn, when your best player scores twice in a game, I'd say chances of winning are pretty good. Especially when your best player plays on defense.

Rack the UofA.

This makes the MNC race and the Pac-10 race very interesting.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:08 am

Sky wrote:
BSmack wrote:Obviously IF never took this course at aTm.

http://www-phil.tamu.edu/Philosophy/Courses/PHIL240/
Oh, thats top notch.

Lets all post a stupid question about football rules and then when we get smacked, look up a link to a random philosophy course at said opponent's school. Clever, yes I am.

And in a nutshell you just explained over 15600 of BSmack's posts. Props to you, sir.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:09 am

BSmack wrote:
Just because the NFL made their rule different than the college rule, and yes, the college rule was in effect before the NFL came in, does not mean the CFB rule has to have a reasoning behind it that differentiates it from the NFL.

Iit is what it is. There's no mathematics or science behind it.
You could have just said that nobody knows why the first time. Christ on a crutch you CFB honks are defensive.

Don't give me that shit. You came in here with your NFL ego shitting on the CFB rule because the NFL has a different rule. You later went to the "experts" card when referring to us "CFB honks" because when those who came up with the CFB rules didn't put a provision in that states that in the event a superior professional league is formed, here is our reasoning for saying a player is down and the ball is dead when his knee touched the ground whether contacted by the opposing team or not.

The fact of the matter is this. You did not think before you typed. The NCAA rule was in effect long before the NFL ever existed. That being said, there is no reason for there to be "further reasoning" behind the rule. If anything, the NFL should have further reasoning for their rule...not that I'd question it. Like I said. It is what it is. And to repeat, I answere what I perceived as a stupid question with a stupid answer. By no means did I think "because it is the rule" was a philosophic answer that was deducted from years of research...

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:13 am

Man, Doug Flutie loves to hear himself talk.

Mike Pelotti postgame interview: "There wasn't that much excitement here tonight, Ray Knight is going to fire me, our fans are like the national misfit convention, my wife is a drunk and she is going to spank my ass for this loss, we gave up three touchdowns."

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:21 am

e wrote:forget it. he's on a roll.

Forget it. He's roll-i-n-g... uhhgg. Just forget it.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:21 am

IndyFrisco wrote:Don't give me that shit. You came in here with your NFL ego shitting on the CFB rule because the NFL has a different rule.

No, I asked a simple fucking question. And you immediately flipped out rather than simply answering the fucking question. Why don't you just knock out a few teeth and mix in a "You think yer better than me?" blast in for good measure?

You later went to the "experts" card when referring to us "CFB honks" because when those who came up with the CFB rules didn't put a provision in that states that in the event a superior professional league is formed, here is our reasoning for saying a player is down and the ball is dead when his knee touched the ground whether contacted by the opposing team or not.

I just thought you might have some knowledge on the issue. Since you didn't, you probably should have just shut up. Maybe, if I care enough tomorrow, I'll chat up a co-worker of mine who has 25 years experience as an official in local HS and college. He may think it's a stupid question, but at least I'll get an intelligent answer out of him on the subject.

The fact of the matter is this. You did not think before you typed. The NCAA rule was in effect long before the NFL ever existed. That being said, there is no reason for there to be "further reasoning" behind the rule. If anything, the NFL should have further reasoning for their rule...not that I'd question it. Like I said. It is what it is. And to repeat, I answere what I perceived as a stupid question with a stupid answer. By no means did I think "because it is the rule" was a philosophic answer that was deducted from years of research...

Well, at least you know that you were spouting shit. I guess that means my smack SOS just went up a couple of points.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:23 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:Hey, Frisco, can you tell me why the college game only uses a 100-yard field? They use a longer one in the CFL. You "experts" surely aren't going to say that it's just to be different, are you?

Because the average southerner can't count over 100.

War Stoops · Post by **War Stoops** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:07 am

BSmack wrote:Because the average southerner can't count over 100.

Zing!

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:14 am

was this Stewart and Dixons last games as Collegians?

will Leaf lead Oregon to wins in the next 2 games to at least keep a share of the Pac 10 title?

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:50 am

Props to 'zona. So when is Mike going to quit this late-surge shit that keeps teasing wildcat-fan into thinking next year is "the year"? Next year better be "the year" or dude is done. But this was a hell of a win. The BCS is becoming a bit clearer. But now WV is sneaking back into the mix, they are a LSU-loss away from playing for it all.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:23 am

buwhahahahahahaha

dinsdale the duckfan running his dicksucker for weeks about Big12, and his team loses to a shit Zona team.

Holy fuck, this is a riot.

lets see:

Duncedale claiming Oregon was going to dryfuck BYU and an easy cover: Dinsed

Oregon st will destroy MU and the cover will be done by halftime: dinsed

MU and KU are shit teams, they wont jump oregon, blah, blah, im going to make this into a 3 page rant to look good: Dinsed

Your on a roll, got anymore for us nostraduncedale?

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:21 pm

BAnnie,

Saying "it's the rule, you can't change it" = "flipping out" to you? Chat up your co-worker. I'm sure they teach ref signals, philosophy of why things are what they are as well as why the wheel is round in the class they need to take to become a ref. Seriously, your need to take everything to a page stretching debate (on nothing) when all you had to to is say "Duh, stupid question" is beyond me.

Now, run off and link to an aeronautical engineering class at A&M and claim bode because THAT is probably beyond me as well.

Fucking idiot.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:27 pm

So the rule is there just to be different?

Precisely.

In the late 1800s, NCAA football struggled to gain recognition over domineering entities such as the New York Jets and Carolina Panthers. In addition, Princeton University was PISSED that the Panthers claimed dibs on the teal motif - which is now a symbol of rich history and tradition.

It's noted that in early years, certain teams even ripped off NFL giants in order to better market themselves. For example...the University of Chicago. The Chicago Bears. See? Chicago and...Chicago?

Red Grange was a successful college football player at the time, but found it difficult to gain any attention over professional studs like Ladanian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson - who were running rough shot over everybody.

The NFL-AFL merger soon came to be, and in an act of desperation, NCAA football decided all it could do to distinguish itself from the NFL was to change its rules - starting with down by knee.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:29 pm

^^^

^^^

Rack MGO. Good stuff.

RevLimiter · Post by **RevLimiter** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:10 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:^^^ ^^^

Rack MGO. Good stuff.

I 2nd that RACK....and credit where it's due. Props, Magoo.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:23 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Saying "it's the rule, you can't change it" = "flipping out" to you?

No, that's just plain stupid. Flipping out came later.

Chat up your co-worker. I'm sure they teach ref signals, philosophy of why things are what they are as well as why the wheel is round in the class they need to take to become a ref.

Why the wheel is round would be covered at a first class engineering school. Which probably explains why aTm grad is even asking the question.

You see? That's a logical fallacy. Though, in the interest of brevity, we could just tighten that up by calling it an IF, since your posts in this thread are absolutely littered with them.

And yes, this co-worker of mine is well versed not only in the rules of football, but also in the reasoning behind the rules.

Seriously, your need to take everything to a page stretching debate (on nothing) when all you had to to is say "Duh, stupid question" is beyond me.

Of course you could have just said "I don't know". Or, even better, you could have not replied and left some measure of doubt as to your level of ignorance.

Now, run off and link to an aeronautical engineering class at A&M and claim bode because THAT is probably beyond me as well.

No need to. The fact that simple logic flies over your head like a GPS satellite tells me you likely didn't take anything more complicated than Bonfire 111- Principles of Unsound Pyramid Building during your time at aTm.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:55 pm

Give it up, Bshmuck. This forum wasn't created yesterday. Nobody's buying your innocent little routine of "it was just a simple question!" That post was baited with a 2 pound shrimp and you got clowned for your ignorance - just like every NFLDork that saunters in here trying to (not so subtly) claim superiority over CFB.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:02 pm

If by "being clowned" you mean "got a bunch of honks to go Chernobyl over a simple question" then I guess you have a point.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:10 pm

BSmack wrote:If by "being clowned" you mean "got a bunch of honks to go Chernobyl over a simple question" then I guess you have a point.

Yeah you got over.

Are you going to ask what those people are doing on the field with sticks, drums, brass things and such next?