Marion Jones Career - DEAD!

[Mister Bushice]

If only they'd do the same thing to Bonds records, although prison time might just be in the near future for him.

AAF erases Marion Jones' results dating to September 2000 for doping
By JEROME PUGMIRE, AP Sports Writer
November 23, 2007

MONTE CARLO, Monaco (AP) -- All of Marion Jones' results dating to September 2000, including her Olympic and world championship titles, were annulled Friday because of doping. Track and field's governing body also told her to return her estimated $700,000 in prize money from that period.

The International Association of Athletics Federation recommended that Jones' relay teammates be disqualified and lose their medals from the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

The IAAF council also upheld the two-year ban imposed on Jones by U.S. officials. She retired last month after pleading guilty to lying to federal investigators in 2003. Jones admitted she had taken the designer steroid "the clear" from September 2000 to July 2001.

A man who answered the phone at Jones' home in Austin, Texas, said she had no comment.

Jones won gold medals in the 100 meters, 200 and the 1,600-meter relay in Sydney, as well as bronzes in the 400 relay and long jump. At the 2001 worlds, she won the 200 and the silver medal in the 100.

Jones has returned her five Olympic medals and agreed to forfeit all results dating to Sept. 1, 2000. But it's still up to the IAAF and International Olympic Committee to change the record books and revise the medals.

The IAAF said Jones was disqualified from all competitions since Sept. 1, 2000, with all results erased. That includes all relays, not just individual events.

The IAAF added Jones must return all awards, medals and money from that period. IAAF spokesman Nick Davies said Jones can't compete again unless she pays back the approximate $700,000.

Athletes who are eventually upgraded stand to receive a share of Jones' prize money. However, it's uncertain whether they will ever get the money because Jones is said to be broke.

Even though Jones has retired, she is officially suspended until Oct. 7, 2009. Jones would have to give the IAAF 12 months' notice if she wants to return to competition after the ban, Davies said.

The IAAF did not take a position on whether Greek sprinter Katerina Thanou should be upgraded to the Olympic gold medal in the 100 meters. That will be up to the IOC, which has authority over Olympic medals.

"We recommend that (the) IOC take the final decision," IAAF general secretary Pierre Weiss said.

Thanou and fellow Greek runner Kostas Kenteris failed to show for drug tests on the eve of the 2004 Athens Games, claiming they were injured in a motorcycle accident and eventually pulled out. They were later banned for two years.

IOC president Jacques Rogge has said there will be no automatic upgrade, and that only "clean" athletes will be moved up in the medals. The IOC is considering whether to leave the 100-meter winner's place vacant.

IAAF president Lamine Diack, who has branded Jones "one of the biggest frauds in sporting history", was at the meeting in Monte Carlo but did not speak to reporters.

Pauline Davis-Thompson of the Bahamas was the silver medalist behind Jones in the 200 meters, while Tatiana Kotova of Russia was fourth in the long jump. They could now be awarded gold and bronze by the IOC.

Jearl Miles-Clark, Monique Hennagan, Tasha Colander-Richardson and Andrea Anderson won golds as part of the 1,600-meter relay in Sydney. Chryste Gaines, Torri Edwards, Nanceen Perry and Passion Richardson were on the 400-meter relay team.

It's now up to the IOC to decide if Jamaica gets gold in the 1,600 relay and France bronze in the 400.

As for the 2001 worlds in Edmonton, Alberta, Debbie Ferguson of the Bahamas moves up to gold in the 200, Latasha Jenkins of the United States to silver and Cydonie Mothersill of the Cayman Islands to bronze.

In the 100, won by Zhanna Block of Ukraine, Thanou would move from bronze to silver, and Chandra Sturrup of the Bahamas from fourth to bronze.

"There is awareness of the situation for sure," Davies said. "But there is also the fact there is no reason we have at the moment why she (Thanou) shouldn't have the medal."

[Shoalzie]

Bonds at least was an MVP player in Pittsburgh...his entire career isn't fraudulant, just his home run records he racked up in the Bay Area.

[Mister Bushice]

I said "RECORDS", Not Career. No denying he put up some of those numbers naturally, but NO WAY he hits 73 or 756 without the 'roids.

[Mikey]

proof?

[Bizzarofelice]

I'd still do her.

[Mister Bushice]

proof?

Look at his average HRs per year, then look at the spike in his HRs during the roid years, then the drop off after. Also, during the non roid years Bonds was injured - pulled hammies, injured wrist, etc and missed a bunch of games. During the roid years, he recovered quicker because of the roids, missed fewer games which gave him more opportunities to hit.

Even if he added a mere 15 HRS for 3 years because of the roids he would need at least two more years in the league to get that, and he doesn't have that in him. Certainly not in the NL.

That doesn't even take into account the studies that show 'roids improve reflex and reaction time.

The only players in the league that hit over 65 HRS were all proven roid users.

What more do you need?

[Cuda]

All of Marion Jones' results dating to September 2000, including her Olympic and world championship titles, were annulled Friday because of doping. Track and field's governing body also told her to return her estimated $700,000 in prize money from that period.

The International Association of Athletics Federation recommended that Jones' relay teammates be disqualified and lose their medals from the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

How quaintly Stalinst. Do they plan to photoshop her out of the official photos too? She'd be smart to cough up that 700k they want, lest the IAAF catch up to her on vacation in Mexico & part her hair with an axe.

[Mikey]

proof?

Look at his average HRs per year, then look at the spike in his HRs during the roid years, then the drop off after. Also, during the non roid years Bonds was injured - pulled hammies, injured wrist, etc and missed a bunch of games. During the roid years, he recovered quicker because of the roids, missed fewer games which gave him more opportunities to hit.

Even if he added a mere 15 HRS for 3 years because of the roids he would need at least two more years in the league to get that, and he doesn't have that in him. Certainly not in the NL.

That doesn't even take into account the studies that show 'roids improve reflex and reaction time.

The only players in the league that hit over 65 HRS were all proven roid users.

What more do you need?

I guess you don't know the difference between "proof" and "speculation".

[Goober McTuber]

proof?

Look at his average HRs per year, then look at the spike in his HRs during the roid years, then the drop off after. Also, during the non roid years Bonds was injured - pulled hammies, injured wrist, etc and missed a bunch of games. During the roid years, he recovered quicker because of the roids, missed fewer games which gave him more opportunities to hit.

Even if he added a mere 15 HRS for 3 years because of the roids he would need at least two more years in the league to get that, and he doesn't have that in him. Certainly not in the NL.

That doesn't even take into account the studies that show 'roids improve reflex and reaction time.

The only players in the league that hit over 65 HRS were all proven roid users.

What more do you need?

I guess you don't know the difference between "proof" and "speculation".

Are you really this myopic, or are you just trolling?

[Mister Bushice]

proof?

Look at his average HRs per year, then look at the spike in his HRs during the roid years, then the drop off after. Also, during the non roid years Bonds was injured - pulled hammies, injured wrist, etc and missed a bunch of games. During the roid years, he recovered quicker because of the roids, missed fewer games which gave him more opportunities to hit.

Even if he added a mere 15 HRS for 3 years because of the roids he would need at least two more years in the league to get that, and he doesn't have that in him. Certainly not in the NL.

That doesn't even take into account the studies that show 'roids improve reflex and reaction time.

The only players in the league that hit over 65 HRS were all proven roid users.

What more do you need?

I guess you don't know the difference between "proof" and "speculation".

OK, let me help you.

FEDERAL GRAND JURY

LEAKED TESTIMONY --> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... /BALCO.TMP

ADMITTED USING A "CLEAR" and a "CREAM" substance, which He SAID he was told was anus oil, or flaxseed oil, or lip balm, or dick lifter-upper, or old people creaky joint balm. One or two of those.

SECOND GRAND JURY has returned an indictment on Bonds for lying, based on evidence presented to them.

Ex girl friend will testify he used or said he used steroids.

Nothing worse than a woman scorned.

Best man at wedding and childhood friend (who Barry reported to the FBI for stealing from him) will also testify Barry used.

He said he told the truth to the grand jury and yeah yeah, proof and all that. Blah blah blah.

When has BB shown any concern for anyone but his own self interests?

Some people burn bridges,some blow them up.

What else ya need mike? a video of him admitting it?

Do you actually think he hit all those home runs because he was naturally genetically superior to everyone else in MLB and broke through to an unheard of level on flaxseed oil and grannies rheumatis' medicine, when the other two guys who also broke through have been disgraced or exposed/admitted 'roid users ?


Seriously dude. If a truck hits you while you walk across the street and you wake up with no memory of it but have witnesses who said it happened, do you blame a strong gust of wind based on reasonable doubt?

[Mikey]

Are you really this myopic, or are you just trolling?

Are you really this stupid or are you just a fucking idiot?

Proof:
positive blood or urine test
substantiated eyewitness account
admission by the accused

Bonds is an asshole, probably used roids, and I really don't GARA what happens to him. What Bushice wrote is a lot of information that would lead to that conclusion, but it isn't proof. You do understand that, don't you? Or are you so blinded by hate that you only see what you want to see.

If baseball punishes Bonds at all for the presumed use of steroids (a felony conviction for perjury would be something else completely) it would be a travesty for them to suspend, ban, or strip him of any records unless they first applied the same or worse punishment to:

Alex Sanchez
Jorge Piedra
Agustin Montero
Jamal Strong
Juan Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Rafael Palmeiro
Ryan Franklin
Mike Morse
Carlos Almanzar
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Yusaku Iriki
Jason Grimsley
Guillermo Mota
Juan Salas
Ryan Jorgenson

All of whom are PROVEN users.

[Mikey]

Look at his average HRs per year, then look at the spike in his HRs during the roid years, then the drop off after. Also, during the non roid years Bonds was injured - pulled hammies, injured wrist, etc and missed a bunch of games. During the roid years, he recovered quicker because of the roids, missed fewer games which gave him more opportunities to hit.

Even if he added a mere 15 HRS for 3 years because of the roids he would need at least two more years in the league to get that, and he doesn't have that in him. Certainly not in the NL.

That doesn't even take into account the studies that show 'roids improve reflex and reaction time.

The only players in the league that hit over 65 HRS were all proven roid users.

What more do you need?

I guess you don't know the difference between "proof" and "speculation".

OK, let me help you.

FEDERAL GRAND JURY

LEAKED TESTIMONY --> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... /BALCO.TMP

ADMITTED USING A "CLEAR" and a "CREAM" substance, which He SAID he was told was anus oil, or flaxseed oil, or lip balm, or dick lifter-upper, or old people creaky joint balm. One or two of those.

SECOND GRAND JURY has returned an indictment on Bonds for lying, based on evidence presented to them.

Ex girl friend will testify he used or said he used steroids.

Nothing worse than a woman scorned.

Best man at wedding and childhood friend (who Barry reported to the FBI for stealing from him) will also testify Barry used.

He said he told the truth to the grand jury and yeah yeah, proof and all that. Blah blah blah.

When has BB shown any concern for anyone but his own self interests?

Some people burn bridges,some blow them up.

What else ya need mike? a video of him admitting it?

Do you actually think he hit all those home runs because he was naturally genetically superior to everyone else in MLB and broke through to an unheard of level on flaxseed oil and grannies rheumatis' medicine, when the other two guys who also broke through have been disgraced or exposed/admitted 'roid users ?


Seriously dude. If a truck hits you while you walk across the street and you wake up with no memory of it but have witnesses who said it happened, do you blame a strong gust of wind based on reasonable doubt?

Indictment does not equal conviction, idiot. At least not in this country.
Witnesses who "will" testify don't mean shit until they do.

Sorry but, to me, being tried and convicted in the press doesn't count.

Come back after the verdict and we'll talk "proof".

[Terry in Crapchester]

If baseball punishes Bonds at all for the presumed use of steroids (a felony conviction for perjury would be something else completely) it would be a travesty for them to suspend, ban, or strip him of any records unless they first applied the same or worse punishment to:

Alex Sanchez
Jorge Piedra
Agustin Montero
Jamal Strong
Juan Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Rafael Palmeiro
Ryan Franklin
Mike Morse
Carlos Almanzar
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Yusaku Iriki
Jason Grimsley
Guillermo Mota
Juan Salas
Ryan Jorgenson

All of whom are PROVEN users.

Let's not forget Jason Giambi.

[Mister Bushice]

The only difference between Marion Jones and Barry Bonds is she admitted guilt, and he pretended he didn't know nuthin'

[BSmack]

Bonds is an asshole, DEFINITELY used roids, and I really don't GARA what happens to him.

FTFY.

Dude's head is the center of it's own solar system. Explain THAT away.

[Goober McTuber]

Are you really this stupid or are you just a fucking idiot?

Proof:
positive blood or urine test
substantiated eyewitness account
admission by the accused

Bonds is an asshole, probably used roids, and I really don't GARA what happens to him. What Bushice wrote is a lot of information that would lead to that conclusion, but it isn't proof. You do understand that, don't you? Or are you so blinded by hate that you only see what you want to see.

If baseball punishes Bonds at all for the presumed use of steroids (a felony conviction for perjury would be something else completely) it would be a travesty for them to suspend, ban, or strip him of any records unless they first applied the same or worse punishment to:

Alex Sanchez
Jorge Piedra
Agustin Montero
Jamal Strong
Juan Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Rafael Palmeiro
Ryan Franklin
Mike Morse
Carlos Almanzar
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Yusaku Iriki
Jason Grimsley
Guillermo Mota
Juan Salas
Ryan Jorgenson

All of whom are PROVEN users.

Are you really this myopic, or are you just trolling?

I'll go with all of the above.

[LTS TRN 2]

Three interesting trials are playing in the City: Bonds, Ed Jew, and the captain of the Cosco Busan.

Only Bonds will walk.

[Mikey]

I'll go with all of the above.

You're stupid and a fucking idiot?

Yeah...I can see that.