I've Seen the Light

[Goober McTuber]

Good God, Sam, you’re such an insecure little twat when it comes to the SEC. Most people agree that they’re probably the strongest conference this year. Just not by such a wide margin as you’d like to believe.

tOSU gets knocked off by Illinois and the Buckeyes are a fraud.

LSU loses to Kentucky, and it‘s that meatgrinder SEC schedule.

Give it a fucking rest.

[peter dragon]

sudden sam making a late charge at the board bitch title.
good luck

[buckeye_in_sc]

You mean the same analysts that this year proclaimed USC the best team and blah blah blah...

they have their opinions and they do watch a lot of football...but at the same time...no one every argued the SEC depth from top to bottom sam...my argument stems from the fact that SEC honks think no one can compete on the field with them...well again since 1998 (inception of the BCS) big 10 is 13-11 v the SEC in bowl games (that is HEAD TO HEAD ON THE FUCKING FIELD)...

that seems pretty even to me...

that is the only thing I have a problem with...that SEC HONKS discount a team like OSU for the title game even though they have great talent...if you believe UF would do that 99 out of a 100 times then the SEC myopia has no bounds...


goobs don't forget LSU lost to a barely 500 Arkansas team you know the one that played for the SEC title last year...

[Adelpiero]

CBS is the SEC network

spencer works SEC games. hes a shill for the conference. next youll tell me Lou Holtz is shilling for Notre dame.

[Shoalzie]

Good God, Sam, you’re such an insecure little twat when it comes to the SEC. Most people agree that they’re probably the strongest conference this year. Just not by such a wide margin as you’d like to believe.

tOSU gets knocked off by Illinois and the Buckeyes are a fraud.

LSU loses to Kentucky, and it‘s that meatgrinder SEC schedule.

Give it a fucking rest.

RACK

I too agree that SEC is the most complete conference, by the way...

[WolverineSteve]

Granted, the guys who watch more games than we do; the guys who break down game film all hours of the day and night; the guys who actually played major college football; the guys who spend 50 times more time around the game than any of us do....of course none of them can approach the unbiased depth of knowledge that Dins, myself, Goobs, Lax, Mgo, all the Sooner guys and tOSUers bring to this board.

So when Kirk Herbstreit and Spencer Tillman and so many other analysts that I can't name 'em all dare to suggest that the SEC is the best overall football conference, we can toss their asinine, poorly-informed opinions aside, right?

Thought so. Just checkin'.


Sincere congrats to Missouri, West Virginia, and Ohio State...at this point. Subject to change within the next week.

Lost me right about there (bold).

[buckeye_in_sc]

yeah and Spencer Tillman also said the OT rules should be changed because the SEC is so tough as well..WHAT THE FUCK...wait Mountain West, WAC schools etc score a lot of points and play 2, 3, and 4 OT's they aren't crying about the rules changing for them (meaning the analysts)...these analysts also think the SEC is the only conference that hits hard...fuck that...

[The Seer]

sudden sam making a late charge at the board bitch title.
good luck

And Schmick figures all these bye weeks will allow him to back in for the title....

[Dinsdale]

And ya'know what else I'm seeing the light about?


Hawaii is actually looking like a pretty damn good team. Sure, their schedule is a joke, no one will argue that, and some 1AA teams are even laughing at their schedule... sure. But they did put the same whooping on #19 Boise that they did everyone else who took the field with them.

Yup, their schedule sucked.


Yup, the computers hate them even more than the pollsters do.

Yup, I'm quick to jump teams for thjeir schedule.

But it's likely that I've seen more Hawaii than most, along with others in the Pacific Time Zone. It doesn't help them that they play at night a lot, making for like a 12 or 1AM start time in the Eastern, where the majority of Americans live. It's only semi-really-late Out West, But Not That Far West.

But I've seen at least parts or most of probably 4 Hawaii games now. And I'm honestly starting to believe Junebug can pull off that R&S(aka the "Portland State Offense," since the R&S has come home to roost again) offensive attack against even real defenses.

I think...

A decent bowl game could easily prove me wrong, but they have some dudes with some serious mad game at the skill positions that make the R&S tick, and Colt Brennan is a straight up stud.

But I'd love to see what that offense could do against LSU or VT or OSU someone like that's defense. If bowls are about getting premiere nontraditional matchups, then let's have Hawaii against some defensive monster... THAT, I wanna see. Hawaii might get "exposed as a fraud" in spectacular fashion... they also might not. I'd watch, either way.

[The Seer]

How exactly is Hawaii's schedule any more of a joke than that of West Virginia?

West Virginia played nobody...except a then warm S Fla team that beat them.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

So when Kirk Herbstreit and Spencer Tillman and so many other analysts that I can't name 'em all dare to suggest that the SEC is the best overall football conference, we can toss their asinine, poorly-informed opinions aside, right?

Like I keep saying, it's like fucking clockwork with you idiots.

Get back to me when you've done something to relieve your ADD.

[Dinsdale]

How exactly is Hawaii's schedule any more of a joke than that of West Virginia?

According to the Sgarins, which use "opponents opponent's," West Virginia had the #35 SoS. Using the same method, Hawaii is ranked #142.

WVU had 4 games against as-of-yesterday top 25s. Hawaii had one.

[Shoalzie]

Yup, I'm quick to jump teams for thjeir schedule.

No, you wouldn't do something like thjat.

[Terry in Crapchester]

yeah and Spencer Tillman also said the OT rules should be changed

I agree with Spencer Tillman on this much. The OT rules should be changed. Not because the SEC is a meatgrinder, mind you. The rules should be changed because the rules suck, period, end of discussion.

Of course, in the interests of fairness and full disclosure, I should point out that the team I root for is something like 2-157 all-time in overtime games, so that probably does color my perception of those rules somewhat. Still, I can point to some objective reasons why I'm not a fan of college football OT. College football OT stacks the deck in favor of the offense, and completely throws out two important variables in the game of football: field position and the game clock.

I can understand how high school football came up with this as an OT format. I could even excuse it at the lower levels of college football. Big time power college football, however, can and should do better.

[peter dragon]

yeah and Spencer Tillman also said the OT rules should be changed

I agree with Spencer Tillman on this much. The OT rules should be changed. Not because the SEC is a meatgrinder, mind you. The rules should be changed because the rules suck, period, end of discussion.

Of course, in the interests of fairness and full disclosure, I should point out that the team I root for is something like 2-157 all-time in overtime games, so that probably does color my perception of those rules somewhat. Still, I can point to some objective reasons why I'm not a fan of college football OT. College football OT stacks the deck in favor of the offense, and completely throws out two important variables in the game of football: field position and the game clock.

I can understand how high school football came up with this as an OT format. I could even excuse it at the lower levels of college football. Big time power college football, however, can and should do better.

i kind of like the OT rules. and would be against any sudden death. I think both teams should be afforded the chance at the ball, or play an additional 10 min. something like that.

[King Crimson]

everytime i read this thread i think of Sam busting a croon:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G30VXkzV7Jw