June Jones rips Tebow

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:30 am

If any of you saw the interview with Jones and Rece Davis, June Jones basically said Tebow is a system QB and could not run another offense because he isn't accurate(huh?) or a natural passer. He then insinuated that Tebow is "average". Rece called him out asking him to "explain" his comments. Wow, just wow.

Uhhh.....June.....hey June......you will see FIRST hand next year as Hawaii plays in Gainseville in our first game.

Like we needed any bulletin board material.

I already can't wait for next season.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:14 am

I'll have to agree with REX (wow)

why would you say that especially with Colt leaving...gonna be a long sad trip for Hawaii me thinks

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:32 pm

The whole "system QB" thing is fucking stupid. Every coach has a system, every player goes to each school uaually because of said coach.

Tebow and Brennan both fit their coaches system. Would either be as effective if they had to run the other offense? Probably not. But that doesn't mean they are a bad player because of it.

The whole "system QB" came about because dumbass GM's drafted the Andre Ware's and Klingler brothers of the world and were shocked when they didn't average 500 yards a game.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:33 pm

Killian wrote:The whole "system QB" thing is fucking stupid. Every coach has a system, every player goes to each school uaually because of said coach.

Oh no you didn't.

sin

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:58 pm

And Brennan isn't a system QB? I see Tebow throwing for about 450 yards on the Warriors next season.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:13 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:June will not have a pleasant Saturday next year in Gainesville.

June won't be in Gainesville next year....

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:55 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
I doubt he'll be fired before then.

he won't have to worry about the potential mess he's creating because he won't be there.....Jones is looking to jump back to the NFL after this season....

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:16 pm

Florida playing Hawaii at home? Shocked!

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:20 pm

WolverineSteve wrote:Florida playing Hawaii at home? Shocked!

Man, Hawaii sucks. What a joke. Sure, they're undefeated, but it's only because of that horrendous schedule. Good god, they really suck. What a crappy team. They don't even belong on the same field as ANY real team, much less an SEC Powerhouse, because they suck.

Man, Hawaii sucks so badly, we should put their AD's office on speed-dial.

Fuggin' SEC.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:41 pm

WolverineSteve wrote:Florida playing Hawaii at home? Shocked!

can't believe it took that long.....i was going to put that in my original post but i figured why bother....

you guys are so predictable

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:43 pm

Coaches will be coaches - and therefore, they'll say stuff that will make you shake your head from time-to-time.

This should be an entertaining matchup now.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:06 pm

All joking aside, I'm shocked Hawaii is coming that far into the mainland for a game. That's a long fucking flight.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:30 pm

Is the deal with Hawaii a home and away? If it is then props for ballsy scheduling. If not then meh. A Brennan-less Hawaii away from home will be nothing special next season. Hawii's huge home-field advantage is a blessing but is a bit of a curse in terms of getting national respect. Major teams don't want to go there. Them being non-BCS desn't help matters. A fair amount of big names think they are above visiting a non-BCS team, even one that packs a stadium.

That is pretty stupid of Jones though. My guess is he's trying to reverse the "system qb" label some will throw on Brennan to undermine Tebow's Heisman candidacy. Giving Florida and Tebow a reason to hold a grudge when you have to go to Gainesville is definitely a bad idea. College ball has been using dual-threat qb's that run a lot for a long time. Do all these guys fall under the system qb label then June?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:43 pm

I agree with the guy. The Florida receivers make some amazing catches and Tebow just simply does not put the ball where it is suppossed to be very often in relation to the guy making the catch.

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:22 pm

T REX wrote:
WolverineSteve wrote:Florida playing Hawaii at home? Shocked!
can't believe it took that long.....i was going to put that in my original post but i figured why bother....

you guys are so predictable

So is Florida with their OOC scheduling.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:48 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:I agree with the guy. The Florida receivers make some amazing catches and Tebow just simply does not put the ball where it is suppossed to be very often in relation to the guy making the catch.

I laughed.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:14 pm

T REX wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:I agree with the guy. The Florida receivers make some amazing catches and Tebow just simply does not put the ball where it is suppossed to be very often in relation to the guy making the catch.
I laughed.

There's a difference between accurate and completion percentage.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:16 pm

Killian wrote:
T REX wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:I agree with the guy. The Florida receivers make some amazing catches and Tebow just simply does not put the ball where it is suppossed to be very often in relation to the guy making the catch.
I laughed.
There's a difference between accurate and completion percentage.

Floriduh homer doesn't realize this. Fact is I have seen ALL but one game Florida played this season and UF's receivers are unbelievable while Tebow is a glorified fullback.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:23 pm

Glorified full back?

Huh? Dude broke all the FLORIDA STATE HIGH SCHOOL PASSING RECORDS before Mavre.

he can't throw....nope.....

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:57 pm

That's gratitude for ya...Tebow cures Jones of cancer and now he rips him.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:02 pm

I thought what Jones said wasnt that he didnt think Tebow would be as good as Brennan in Hawaiis system because he wasnt as accurate with all the throws.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:28 pm

T REX wrote:Glorified full back?

Huh? Dude broke all the FLORIDA STATE HIGH SCHOOL PASSING RECORDS before Mavre.

he can't throw....nope.....

Didn't say he couldn't throw, he said he wasn't very accurate.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:02 pm

Tebow fires back...

...Tebow wins.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:52 pm

Killian wrote:
T REX wrote:Glorified full back?

Huh? Dude broke all the FLORIDA STATE HIGH SCHOOL PASSING RECORDS before Mavre.

he can't throw....nope.....
Didn't say he couldn't throw, he said he wasn't very accurate.

68.5%

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:16 pm

T REX wrote:
Killian wrote:
T REX wrote:Glorified full back?

Huh? Dude broke all the FLORIDA STATE HIGH SCHOOL PASSING RECORDS before Mavre.

he can't throw....nope.....
Didn't say he couldn't throw, he said he wasn't very accurate.
68.5%

Did you not see my post that there is a differency between accuracy and completion percentage, or do you just not want to address it?

Nolesy · Post by **Nolesy** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:21 pm

Who needs to be a good passer when they name a holiday after you?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:31 pm

June was on Rome, or one of the ESPN shows yesterday.

Tough spot for me, since Junebug is my man, the original run-and-shoot guy, who basically put Portland State football on the map(kind of) and precipitated a move up a division, kinda-sorta. He can't really do any wrong around here.

But he didn't really apologize, but explained he was making a point(which we all understood), and was taking up for His Guy. He also explained he thought Tebow was a great player who would lead his team to another championship before he was done.

I understand what June was doing, and I agree with his reasons for doing it.... but I strongly disagree with the way he went about doing it... he doesn't need to use any freaking names of any players to pimp his own guy for Heisman(which Brennan fully deserves). I think he was just flustered with the whole "system QB" thing.

But June ain't stupid -- he just helped promote next year's game, and maybe even this season's bowl, and probably improved recruiting by his blind devotion to his players.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:37 pm

dins: Agreed. You don't have to tear someone down to prop your guy up. Terrible for a coach to say.

kill: The guy has threaded some needles and has great touch on the deep ball.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:18 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:So you're a Mouse Davis fan?

Uhhhh, ya'think?

My high school, where he refined the R&S, had to build a large trophy case to hold the harware Mouse brought. That was before my time... One of my older buddies played for Mouse for a year... against Stan Brock, he recently informed me.

Mouse was one of a long line of bigtime coaches at my school. I had busted up knees, and never played football in high school(never played hoops for the school, which pissed the coach off, since I could clown any of his varsity gaurds, and often did when I took basketball in PE class every year). There was a guy for a short time after Mouse, whose name I can't remember apart from Gentleman Jim. That gave way to the Ron Linehan era.

Yeah, that Linehan family.

Coach Linehan's much-younger brother used to come and be our teacher's aid back then... but mostly hung out and played flag football, and that sort of thing, which we'd do at the drop of a hat(Coach would even let us block and play with real lines, under the agreement that no one could get hurt, and if they did, they kinda had to keep their mouth shut).

And lo and behold, that goofy kid who wasn't that much older than me but could pretty much school everyone on the gridiron now prowls the sidelines for the St Louis Rams... small world.

My old school used to be a dynasty -- now, they're a doormat. Kinda hurts.

Are you a Jerry Glanville guy nowadays?

Of course. If for no other reason, dude is funny as all hell when he does his weekly bit on the local hard-rock station's afternoon show.

He once talked of retiring as Portland State coach on August 28th... so he could retire undefeated and claim BODE on Mouse.

Funny, funny guy.

And I didn't make it to a PSU game this year... shame on me.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:26 pm

It's on a consistant basis. I'm not saying that the kid isn't a good passer. I'm sure he will get more accurate as time goes on. For example, Brady Quinn's completion percentage probably dropped between his junior and senior year, even though he got more accurate. He lost weapons and catches that Stovall made in his sleep, McKnight couldn't make or would flat drop.

He may thread a needle here or there this year, but I would wager by his senior year there will be more needles threaded and more difficult pass plays called because of his improved accuracy.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:11 pm

I think that 51 TD's is more a result of not having a bonafide #1 RB. I think if Meyer gets the guy he wants in the backfield, Tebow's rushing TD's will go down drastically.

I agree with your overall point. The kid is a stud. In the next two years he will make drastic leaps and bounds as a passer. In baseball terms, he will stop being a thrower and start becoming a pitcher.

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:25 pm

Just heard the kid on sirus coaches show and I came away very impressed. Sounds like he's well grounded and a good kid. 51 TDs......that's sick..................

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:50 pm

His dad is a minister.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:40 pm

^^^^^^^^

should be interesting at the Heisman ceremony then...

the only thing I don't like about tebow is his antics after scoring in many cases (and that can be SAID FOR A LOT OF PLAYERS)...I just wish these kids would act like they have been there before...hand the FUCKING BALL TO THE REF and get back to the sideline...

again I know Tebow isn't the only kid guilty of this...

I agree Tebow is a sick, sick talent...almost Vince Young like and still maturing...WOW...

Nolesy · Post by **Nolesy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:38 pm

T REX wrote:His dad is a minister.

Don't most Preachers daughters end up being the biggest slut in school?

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:39 pm

Tebow might be a talent, but his girl appears to have more talent than he'll ever dream of.