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Stay the hell out of NYC.



Man who picks up wallet to help feels discriminated against by cops
BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, December 5th 2007, 4:00 AM


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Carlos Alayo discusses his ordeal with undercover police last Wednesday after he spotted an abandoned wallet on subway platform bench at Grand Central.
He was trying to do a good deed - but ended up feeling like a common criminal.

Freelance photographer Carlos Alayo says he was late for a business meeting when he spotted a wallet lying abandoned on a subway platform bench.

He picked it up and put it in his bag, with every intention of later finding its owner, but as he rushed to board the 6 train last Wednesday at Grand Central, he felt a hand on his shoulder.

"Where's the wallet?" the undercover cop asked him.

Alayo, 32, is one of the latest New Yorkers ensnared in the NYPD's clampdown on thieves - known as Operation Lucky Bag.

After giving the officers the wallet, he was frisked, made to put his hands against the wall and hand over his identification so they could do a criminal history check.

"It wasn't even crossing my mind what was inside [the wallet]. I was trying to get to my appointment," Alayo said.

"It made me feel like I was a criminal, like I did something wrong. The look on [the cop's] face, it was like he already knew that I was arrested.

"He said, 'Don't lie to me, just tell me how many times you've been arrested.'

"That just stabbed me right there in the heart."

Alayo, who is from Peru, felt the eyes of all the rush-hour commuters on him as he was searched by officers.

"I was so ashamed, my face went red and people were looking," he said.

"God knows what they were thinking, a Spanish guy on the platform surrounded by cops. It made me feel very uneasy inside.

"I've been in this country 17 years and not felt discriminated against until that day," Alayo said.

The decoy operation involves planting shopping bags, purses, backpacks and wallets around the subway system, where unsuspecting passersby are watched to see how they react.

The plants used to be worth a few hundred dollars at most.

Now they contain real American Express Cards, issued under pseudonyms to the Police Department. Theft of a credit card is grand larceny, a Class E felony, so anyone cops believe has the intention of stealing the decoy wallet or bag could face up to four years behind bars.

"Even property which is lost or mislaid can be stolen," said NYPD Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne. "A person who takes or finds property which is lost or mislaid has a legal obligation to make efforts to return the property to its owner, which can include delivering the property to the police."

Last year, the NYPD's Transit Bureau arrested 101 individuals with prior arrest histories through the decoy program. Those 101 people had a combined total of 761 prior arrests, Browne said. On at least 178 other occasions, the bag left on the bench or seat was turned over to proper authorities.

Alayo says he has no criminal record - save for one summons several years ago for public urination. The cops let him go last week when they found no outstanding warrants - or reason to charge him.

The NYPD is under fire for targeting minorities for its stop-and-frisk policies, and the New York Civil Liberties Union believes Operation Lucky Bag needs to be abandoned.

"Policies like this are hellbent on stopping people from being good Samaritans," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

"A process like this is a pretext for racial profiling. I'm sure the NYPD has far more sophisticated tactics at their disposal than dropping wallets on the train."
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Why don't you go ahead and move there?
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FUCK him- he can go back to Mexico if he don't like it here.
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That would be Peru.
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Diogenes wrote:That would be Peru.
Same place as far as I care....oh, and you can stop bolding your posts anytime now.
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Kind of like Missouri being the same as Arkansas.

Only without all of the culture and class.
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RevLimiter wrote:
Diogenes wrote:That would be Peru.
Same place as far as I care....oh, and you can stop bolding your posts anytime now.
Wrong wrong wrong.

The bolding makes them easier to identify when scrolling past. It's a real time saver.
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You're still not funny.
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Mister Bushice wrote:
RevLimiter wrote:
Diogenes wrote:That would be Peru.
Same place as far as I care....oh, and you can stop bolding your posts anytime now.
Wrong wrong wrong.

The bolding makes them easier to identify when scrolling past. It's a real time saver.
My bad....and with complete sincerity, THANK YOU Bushice for pointing that out.
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I like how they call this practice racial profiling. Minority commits the crime and complains because they "made him do it." Laughable.
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I doubt there was anything racial about it, but, for the NYPD to bait people with a fukking wallet on the ground is bullshit.

You see a dollar or quarter or wallet on the ground it is because somebody accidentally dropped the fukking thing. If you pick it up and stuff it in your pocket, you have done nothing wrong. If you try to use a credit card from it, you are a criminal and need to be locked up. This dude didn't do that.

Why won't the NYPD just place a shopping bag or briefcase somewhere and have an undercover cop strand next to it as if it were his. Somebody snatches that up, they are likely a crook.
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Now they contain real American Express Cards, issued under pseudonyms to the Police Department. Theft of a credit card is grand larceny, a Class E felony, so anyone cops believe has the intention of stealing the decoy wallet or bag could face up to four years behind bars.
Talk about your lousy police work. If you're going to bait the hook, then at least set the damn thing properly. Like they couldn't track usage on the credit card and really nail someone?

That being said, the whole program is a waste of taxpayer money that could be better spend providing round the clock protection for Rudy Giuliani's latest mistress.
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"Even property which is lost or mislaid can be stolen," said NYPD Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne. "A person who takes or finds property which is lost or mislaid has a legal obligation to make efforts to return the property to its owner, which can include delivering the property to the police."

Last year, the NYPD's Transit Bureau arrested 101 individuals with prior arrest histories through the decoy program. Those 101 people had a combined total of 761 prior arrests, Browne said. On at least 178 other occasions, the bag left on the bench or seat was turned over to proper authorities.


What is absurd about this is that they do not seem to be interested in whether the person finding the property attempts to do the right thing. It looks like just a way of circumventing due process to arrest first, investigate later.

And the 'profiling'angle is bullshit, of course. Everyone knows there's Blue- and the rest of you.
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