Big 10 v SEC Bowl Thread

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:32 pm

Ok we have what 3 matchups:

Outback Wisconsin v Tennessee
Cap One Michigan v Florida
MNC tOSU v LSU

interesting matchups...

Wisconsin v Tennessee: PJ Hill should be ready to roll, can Tenn stop a power type running game? Can Wisconisn defense put enough pressure on Ainge to force him into mistakes? I look for Wisconsin to play the ball control power running game scenario to its fullest. I think Wisconsin wears UT down ala what Wisconsin has done to Arkansas and Auburn the last 2 years. I like the Wisconsin secondary v the Vols WR's especially with Ikagwanu (stud)...and the LB's are bitches...I look for Wisconsin to win this one 21 - 14

Michigan v UF: Yes UF is playing good ball, yes UF has studs everywhere, yes we will hear how Michigan can't defend the spread or whatever the fuck you want to call it. UF has a young defense, Hart and Henne will be healthy, Michigan will be playing with a lot of emotion. Will Tebow have any ill effects from his hand and shoulder? Can Michigan limit harvin? I mean no one has been able to. This game to me will be closer than most people think. Michigan is getting what 10 points...I would take Michigan and points if I were a betting the game. So with that said I look for a 28 to 20 type of game.

Big 10 1
SEC 1

tOSU v LSU: LSU is a conventional type team with a lot of speed at the skill positions (Holiday, Doucet)...this will really test the tackling and athletic ability of the OSU LB's and Secondary. I think OSU will pound the ball on the edges against LSU, and throw a lot to the TE up the seem as LSU will probably load up the box to stop Beanie. I think LSU will have some trouble running on OSU as OSU has about as athletic a LB core as there is in College Football...Laurenitis is an animal I look for him to have a big game. Can LSU exploit the double team on Dorsey to get good pressure on Boeckman? If LSU loads up the box Robiskie/Hartline will go off. Tressel has outcoached Miles before, will Miles be sane for this game? I look for OSU to exercise the demons and win a 27 to 21 type of game. OSU down 21 to 20 with about 8 minutes to go...gets the ball and goes on a massive 6+ minute drive and just physically runs the ball down LSU's throats to win.

OSU wins a bowl game against SEC, OSU gets some redemption for 1/7/07, OSU proves that they did belong...

Big 10 2
SEC 1

overall record since inception of BCS

BIG 10 15
SEC 12

let the debate begin...

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:04 pm

Do you think that the Big Ten is the best conference?

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:17 pm

Best conference overall...NO...competitive v the SEC HELL YES...moreso competitive then SEC Honk will admit...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:19 pm

On paper, I give the slight advantage to the SEC. But the homer in me is predicting victory for the B10.

I think the Wisky/UT game is a virtual toss-up. Wisconsin often fields very strong all-around football teams, but I don't see them play inspired ball all season long. When "good" Tennessee shows up they're very tough to beat. Wisky has had some success against standard operating SEC teams, and typically plays pretty well in bowls. I give them the edge here.

UF beats Michigan, but I'm not leaning toward a blowout. Hart and Henne are the core of the UM offense, and they haven't played at full strength since very early in the season. Both should be fully healthy for this game. And with Lloyd's last game and all, you've gotta believe this will be an extremely spirited effort by Michigan. Yes, UF is almost unstoppable on offense, but the D isn't Michigan's achilles heel. The question is whether they can score enough to hang. I just don't see it happening. Edge: UF.

OSU over LSU - anywhere from 3-6 points. I'll probably give a more detailed breakdown closer to game day.

2-1 Big Ten

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:23 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Ok we have what 3 matchups:

Outback Wisconsin v Tennessee
Cap One Michigan v Florida
MNC tOSU v LSU

interesting matchups...

Wisconsin v Tennessee: PJ Hill should be ready to roll, can Tenn stop a power type running game? Can Wisconisn defense put enough pressure on Ainge to force him into mistakes? I look for Wisconsin to play the ball control power running game scenario to its fullest. I think Wisconsin wears UT down ala what Wisconsin has done to Arkansas and Auburn the last 2 years. I like the Wisconsin secondary v the Vols WR's especially with Ikagwanu (stud)...and the LB's are bitches...I look for Wisconsin to win this one 21 - 14

Word around here has been that P.J. is not healing. But Zach Brown really came on strong at the end of the season with 358 yards in the last two games. I’m curious whether they’ll let Lance Smith play (the other 2nd string RB). He was suspended for all regular season away games. Wonder if that will carry over to the bowl game?

I think Wisconsin can handle Tennessee, and I thought Alvarez made a brilliant move accepting the invite before the last weekend of the season. Once tOSU made it to the championship game and Illinois was selected for the Rose, I believe the Badgers could have been selected to play Florida and Tebow Almighty.

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:05 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Best conference overall...NO...competitive v the SEC HELL YES...moreso competitive then SEC Honk will admit...

Well I see the SEC winning 2-1.

LSU over OSU
gates over UM

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:12 pm

T...the one stat since 1998 BCS Big 10 is 13-11 v SEC in head to head bowl games and most of those are 2 v 2 matchups, etc...not something like Michigan v Ole Miss...so pretty competitive...

Wow same LSU by 14 to 20...you must know something Vegas doesn't...

If LSU does win I think it will be close...I have watched LSU a ton this year and really don't see the True SPREAD Option...they like to spread the field with 4 and 5 wides...but they still line up in a lot of I formation 2 WR conventional sets in a lot of instances...

I look at it this way...I would say OSU is better than Arkansas and kentucky...Arkansas beat LSU with a power type running game...of course no defense was played in this game...I think OSU can pound the ball at LSU and will do so...LSU needs to be able to stop Wells and tackle him in space...he has shown uncanny ability to break through the first tackle at the line and just blow by people...just food for thought...

I still think OSU wins this game...as they will hear how they don't belong and LSU this and LSU that...much like UF heard earlier in the year against OSU...

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:14 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:T...the one stat since 1998 BCS Big 10 is 13-11 v SEC in head to head bowl games and most of those are 2 v 2 matchups, etc...not something like Michigan v Ole Miss...so pretty competitive...

I know that but we are talking about this season.

This season the Big Ten is not that great with the SEC being pretty good.

Both UM and OSU are capable of pulling a upset but I only see Wisky winning vs SEC.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:15 pm

^^^^^^^

I stand corrected...gotcha now...

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:27 pm

Sudden Sam wrote: I haven't seen a lot of the Buckeyes this year, so I may be a fool to predict a two touchdown win for LSU. But I have seen LSU when they're healthy, so I feel pretty confident that if Miles doesn't blow it, the Tigers should roll.

Pretty well sums up the thought process of SEC Ball Sucking Homer, doesn't it?

We're the SEC. Sure, I haven't seen much of the New England Patriots this season, but since it's the SEC, LSU should win by two touchdowns or more.

Priceless.

Are you still struggling to figure out why SEC Fan is considered to be a retard by the rest of the country?

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:28 pm

good points sam...Dorsey will be a bitch for the OSU line...but Gholston will be tough for the LSU tackles as well (in no way am I saying Vern Gholston is on the same level as Dorsey)...

this game will be won and lost in the trenches (yeah I know obvious)...OSU does have a strong running game...if Beanie can get by first point of contact...6'1" 230 ish pounds with speed...he is tough to bring down and gets stronger as the game goes on...

It will be interesting to see if Tressel does have any new wrinkles...I think they got complacent last year and stayed to true to form...this year will be interesting...

14-20 points seems a little much as I think OSU is as good or better than many of the teams LSU has beaten or been tested by...but by the same token LSU is vulnerable and if Miles has brain fart after brain fart...Tressel has already beaten him down once at Okie State...and yes I realize different talent, different teams...

how sick is this:

Tressel
Miles
Meyer
Zook
Bob Stoops
Mike Stoops
Bo Pelini

all from FUCKING OHIO...holy shit...many of the cream of the coaching crop...

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:29 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:so I feel pretty confident that if Miles doesn't blow it

You’ve already set up LSU’s excuse if they lose. More than once, just in this thread.

Sorry, if LSU loses it will be because they got beat by a better team.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:32 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Mike Stoops...

the cream of the coaching crop...

Damn-near sig-material.

And I thought SEC Fan was clowning... the bar has been raised.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:34 pm

Dins...you missed the MANY of the cream of the crop...no way does Mike Stoops belong there...u can use it as sig material...if you can't laugh at yourself who can you laugh at...

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:35 pm

Sudden Sam wrote: Damn, Dins. I was trying to make an honest fair post without any SECBSH-ish aspects...and you still go after me!

I know. That's why it was so freaking funny -- even when you try to be neutral, you just can't get that SEC Retard Cock out of your mouth.

And this is why you people are so universally mocked.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:37 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:if you can't laugh at yourself who can you laugh at...

SEC Fan, of course.

They're like two year olds -- cute and funny for awhile, but the act gets fairly annoying after enough of it.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:40 pm

ok you got me on Mike Stoops but he still is a head coach at a major university...

sam yeah Miami of Ohio...Schembechler, Holtz, Hayes, etc...

plus OSU has had a ton of good coaches come through...Meyer, Tressel, Holtz, Bo, Mason, Lovie Smith, Ron Zook, Mel Tucker, and many more...too many to mention...OSU is no Iowa...but hey who is?

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:51 pm

Lsu-OSu Lsu, but it should be a close game.

Fla-Michigan Florida is going to bring out the Rumplewife stick and lay it to Michigan!

Tenn-Wisky If wisky can move the ball, they win by 10, they try to play cripple ball with Ten, i see that piss poor ainge finding a way to win by a FG.

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