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Hooray for Al Queda's clients, the dirty fucking gypo Albanians.

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Sauce for the goose, America. I'll be handing out sweets and flowers when Mexico annexes Texas.

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They'd better be Godiva fucking chocolates because you're way late
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Cuda wrote:They'd better be Godiva fucking chocolates because you're way late
Would you advise a pregnancy test?
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It would be good for laughs in any event, although I'd just as soon see the Ruskies supress them ruthlessly. After all, if they repel the Russians, it'll only be a matter of time before they think they're hot-shit enough to take on NATO-errr, I mean OUR troops (funny that the left's panties aren't in a bunch over us still having troops over there after almost 20 years, but I digress)
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mvscal wrote:I'd like to see the Russians actually do something about it.
Secrectly, you would.

So would I.
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"The Albanian-controlled areas of Kosovo would sink even deeper into the black hole of organized crime (drugs, slaves, arms) and jihad terror under a "government" composed of war criminals and kingpins in the Albanian Mafia. Far from stabilizing the western Balkans, instability would be perpetuated by alienation of Serbia, the only country of any consequence in the region."

James George Jatras, director of the American Council for Kosovo

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The only bright side of Kosovo independence would be more dirty dog gypo heroin being pumped into the U.S. courtesy of
returning American "humanitarian relief flights".

I hope you all O.D. on bad gypo junk.
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Martyred wrote:Albanian Mafia
Those pink-eyed, white-haired devils are shifty, I'll give 'em that much...
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Greasy, filthy, flea ridden pimp rapists...

...and now you're signing their welfare cheques.

Hooray for democracy.
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Kosovo Independence like shit.

file this under 'six party talks big success' and 'violence down in Iraq'.

fucking crap.
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Martyred wrote:Greasy, filthy, flea ridden muzzie pimp rapists...

...and now you're signing their welfare cheques.

Hooray for democracy.
:meds:
FTFY

Nowhere have I seen any sort of explanation of why independence for kosovo is even remotely a good thing for the USA
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Martyred wrote:Greasy, filthy, flea ridden pimp rapists...

...and now you're signing their welfare cheques.

Hooray for democracy.
:meds:
If they're so bad, why did Serbia want them around?
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Martyred wrote:Warm your bloody hands on the ashes of burning churches, America.
Sounds good to me. It’s like -1° here right now.
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Cuda wrote:
Martyred wrote:Greasy, filthy, flea ridden muzzie pimp rapists...

...and now you're signing their welfare cheques.

Hooray for democracy.
:meds:
FTFY
You hear that sound? That's the sound of me not arguing with you.
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Cuda wrote: Nowhere have I seen any sort of explanation of why independence for kosovo is even remotely a good thing for the USA
Ask your fearless "war president".
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mvscal wrote: Sure, but I think we both know the Russian military is so totally fucked up, they make the French or even the Germans look fierce. Well, maybe not the Germans.
Yeah, the Russian military is fucked up. So go start World war III because the kikes that run
the Bush Administration have a craw in their foot over Russia.

Al Queda = bad (except Kososvo, Bosnia and Chechnya...how coincidental. :meds: )
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Martyred wrote:Greasy, filthy, flea ridden pimp rapists...
Leave Bill Clinton out of this.
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Marty Red wrote:
Cuda wrote: Nowhere have I seen any sort of explanation of why independence for kosovo is even remotely a good thing for the USA
Ask your fearless "war president".
They keep putting my calls on hold and after several minutes, I hear a click and a dial tone.

I'm beginning to think there's really nothing wrong with their phone system at all.
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Cuda wrote:
Marty Red wrote:
Cuda wrote: Nowhere have I seen any sort of explanation of why independence for kosovo is even remotely a good thing for the USA
Ask your fearless "war president".
They keep putting my calls on hold and after several minutes, I hear a click and a dial tone.

I'm beginning to think there's really nothing wrong with their phone system at all.
Apparently nothing is wrong with their idiot detector, either.
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Diogenes wrote: Leave Bill Clinton out of this.
Not a chance.

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Martyred wrote:
Diogenes wrote: Leave Bill Clinton out of this.
Not a chance.

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Russia's Serbia Strategy

By Charlie Szrom


Yesterday evening, Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica boasted to a crowd opposed to Kosovar independence that, "We're not alone in our fight. President Putin is with us."

Briefly euphoric after breaking free, Kosovars now face a grim challenge: they must build a prosperous nation in the face of strident opposition from Moscow. Meanwhile, Serbian protestors broke into the U.S. Embassy in Belgrade yesterday; much of the American complex now lies charred. Russia's Security Council veto, which ensures Kosovo will not join the UN, hinders the international response to such incidents and impedes foreign assistance that might stabilize the fledgling democracy. Indeed, upon Kosovo's independence, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov said the event "threatens the destruction of the world order that has developed over centuries."

Why should Russia go to the trouble of standing up for Serbia? Much has been made of the long historical affinity between the two. Serbia once stood as the bulwark of Eastern Orthodoxy, which had its greatest champion in the 'Third Rome' of Russia after the fall of Constantinople. The Catholic Hapsburg Empire lay just to the west, often as close as Croatia, and the Muslim Ottoman Empire occupied Serbia for centuries. Patriarch Alexiy II, head of the Russian Orthodox Church, demonstrated the strong religious ties between the two countries when he inserted himself into the debate by saying Kosovo's independence "has unilaterally upset the balance in the world."

A Europe dominated economically and politically by Russia cannot stand up to Kremlin sponsorship of autocrats in Eastern Europe and Central Asia or Russian foot-dragging on international sanctions against an Iranian arms program.

Yet pretenses of defending international law or analysis pointing to traditional ties hide the real reason for Russia's position: Serbia lets Russia project power and accrue profit in Southeastern Europe. Russian-Serbian trade has spiked, and Russian corporations have begun snatching up Serbian assets at bargain-basement prices. Vladimir Putin has even acknowledged this, calling it "natural that a resurgent Russia is returning [to Serbia]."

Trade between the two topped $2.6 billion in 2007, a 22 percent increase over 2006 and a 56 percent increase from 2005. Much of this exchange has been in energy imports from Russia, the country with which Serbia has its largest trade deficit.

When Serbia opened up the bidding for the assets of its national oil conglomeration, Naftna Industrija Srbije, Belgrade's favoritism led to enormous Russian profits. A number of companies--Hungary's MOL, Poland's PKN Orlen, Russia's Lukoil, and Romania's Rompetrol--made offers for the group late last year.

Despite a market valuation estimated at between 1 and 2 billion euros ($1.5-3 billion) by most analysts, Russia's Gazprom purchased a 51 percent stake in NIS for just 400 million euros ($589 million) in late January. Gazprom enjoys close ties with the Russian administration: Putin's presumptive heir to the presidency, Dmitry Medvedev, is chairman of the firm's board of directors.

In December, when Russia made an initial bid similar to the final purchase price, Serbia's economic minister, Mladjan Dinkić, said, "This offer is humiliating . . . the property alone is worth 800 million euros ($1.17 billion) according to conservative estimates, excluding business or market share." Analysts inside and outside Serbia believe the prime minister overruled Dinkić and pushed the deal through anyway to reward Russia for its support on Kosovo.

Russia, a "first among equals" in economic deals according to Serbian Deputy Prime Minister Bo idar Djelić, has extended its influence deep into Serbia's economy. Russia's Aeroflot has expressed interest in purchasing the flagship Serbian airline JAT; it may make an offer as early as late March according to Aeroflot official Mikhail Polyboyarinov. Other assets slated for privatization, such as Srpska Bank, have also come under the watchful eye of Russian financiers.

Most importantly, the NIS deal came bundled with a plan for Russia to construct the intermediate leg of its 550-mile South Stream pipeline project through Serbia. Carrying nearly 2.6 trillion gallons of natural gas a year to Europe from the Black Sea through Bulgaria, South Stream would force Serbia to rely on Russia for fuel supplies.

The pipeline would also cement Russia's control over the European market. The EU and the United States, hoping to blunt the Russian monopoly over the European energy market, plan to build a pipeline, known as the Nabucco project, to bring Caspian fuel from Azerbaijan through Bulgaria, Romania, and Hungary.

South Stream would hobble such aspirations and cut out U.S. allies like Turkey and Romania. Its northern sister, the Nord Stream project, would bring fuel under the Baltic Sea directly to Germany, allowing Russia to cut off supplies to Central European states without interrupting supplies to their more economically and politically powerful counterparts in the West. Together, these projects would give Russia even greater control over the European energy market.

Gazprom attempted to pressure Ukraine by shutting off gas for three days in early 2006; despite assurances from Gazprom, Western customers experienced reduced supply undermining the company's attempt to strong-arm Kiev on behalf of Moscow. The Stream pipeline projects would let Russia play a game of divide-and-conquer, allowing Gazprom to pressure one country at a time if Moscow desired a higher price or wished to exert political pressure.

Without Serbian cooperation, Russia would be forced to rely on more pro-Western states such as Romania. And without Serbia, Russia might not be able to head off Nabucco, which represents the greatest Western threat to Russia's energy strategy. Russian opposition to Kosovo's independence ensures that Serbia will continue serving as the linchpin in Russian plans.

A Europe dominated economically and politically by Russia cannot stand up to Kremlin sponsorship of autocrats in Eastern Europe and Central Asia or Russian foot-dragging on international sanctions against an Iranian arms program. Building a safer, freer world will demand a comprehensive response.

New leaders in Europe may make such a stand possible. French President Nicholas Sarkozy said in 2007 that Russia "is, with a certain brutality, imposing its return on the world scene by taking advantage of its assets, notably oil and gas." In January 2006, immediately after her first meeting with Putin, German Chancellor Angela Merkel met with Russian opposition leaders, urging them to contribute to "reviving life in Russia." British Prime Minister Gordon Brown expelled four Russian diplomats from Britain in July after Russia failed to extradite Andrei Luogovoi, the lead suspect in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

These EU leaders can join the United States in forming a unified policy on Russian energy that would accelerate the development of the Nabucco pipeline and liberalize trade with Russian energy companies. Prohibiting Gazprom from investing in European energy distribution networks until Russia opens up its own domestic network to foreign investment, as a September European Commission proposal urged, would be a good step in this direction.

The West should recognize Moscow's less-than-noble motives in opposing a free Kosovo, and it must blunt the power of the Nord and South Stream pipeline projects. Europe can either accept a grim future under Russia's thrall, or it can begin walking a difficult, if necessary, path.

Charlie Szrom is a research assistant at AEI.
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Diogenes wrote:Russia's Serbia Strategy

By Charlie Szrom

A Europe dominated economically and politically by Russia cannot stand up to Kremlin sponsorship of autocrats in Eastern Europe and Central Asia or Russian foot-dragging on international sanctions against an Iranian arms program. Building a safer, freer world will demand a comprehensive response.
Jeeezus...That article is so Jewy, I can smell the kugel from here...

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Martyred wrote:The only bright side of Kosovo independence would be more dirty dog gypo heroin being pumped into the U.S. courtesy of
returning American "humanitarian relief flights".

I hope you all O.D. on bad gypo junk.

So we're going to lose a couple thousand democrats? No biggie in my book!
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Martyred wrote:The only bright side of Kosovo independence would be more dirty dog gypo heroin being pumped into the U.S. courtesy of
returning American "humanitarian relief flights".

I hope you all O.D. on bad gypo junk.

So we're going to lose a couple thousand democrats? No biggie in my book!
Yeah, I imagine that most hardcore junkies vote in every election.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:
Martyred wrote:The only bright side of Kosovo independence would be more dirty dog gypo heroin being pumped into the U.S. courtesy of
returning American "humanitarian relief flights".

I hope you all O.D. on bad gypo junk.

So we're going to lose a couple thousand democrats? No biggie in my book!
Yeah, I imagine that most hardcore junkies vote in every election.
Not every... just the important ones. And I was thinking more along the lines of the casual suburb drug user.
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