they're coming for your diet next !

[Wolfman]

It was bad enough that Barry O says that we shouldn't eat so much unless the UN or somebody approves. The proof is in the pudding as they say and here is an article about the food restrictions at the dem's own convention in Denver.
I wonder if they will be down with the pursuit of happiness ?

http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyles/ci_9305736" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wondering if Cheetoh's are banned.

[Mikey]

Yeah you'd better be very worried. They'll be coming after your beast light next week.
Not the right color at all.

[OCmike]

The committee is working with other groups to develop a carbon-footprint "calculator" that will measure the environmental impact of each event...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...wait, they're serious?

Funniest part about the whole story is them requiring all organic or local products. If the convention were anywhere in CA, which has pretty much the most diverse agriculture template anywhere on the planet, okay. But Colo-fucking-rado?! What's their growing season, six weeks? Brilliant!

[BSmack]

The committee is working with other groups to develop a carbon-footprint "calculator" that will measure the environmental impact of each event...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...wait, they're serious?

Funniest part about the whole story is them requiring all organic or local products. If the convention were anywhere in CA, which has pretty much the most diverse agriculture template anywhere on the planet, okay. But Colo-fucking-rado?! What's their growing season, six weeks? Brilliant!

It should be a message to citizens of unsustainable cities everywhere. This is your future.

[Cuda]

But Colo-fucking-rado?! What's their growing season, six weeks? Brilliant!

Outdoors, 6 months, but you can grow indoors year-round with hi-pressure grow lights... or so I've been told

[BSmack]

But Colo-fucking-rado?! What's their growing season, six weeks? Brilliant!

Outdoors, 6 months, but you can grow indoors year-round with hi-pressure grow lights... or so I've been told

If anyone could survive for 6 months on ganja tea and buffalo chips, it would be you.

[BSmack]

It should be a message to citizens of unsustainable cities everywhere. This is your future.

You're a fucking moron.

How utterly typical of you. All bluster, no substance.

Go fuck yourself.

[PSUFAN]

It was bad enough that Barry O says that we shouldn't eat so much unless the UN or somebody approves.

Huh? Who what where?

I'm surprised that you plan to attend the Democratic Convention, Wolfman. I'm sorry to hear that your consumption will be impaired in some way.

Thanks for bringing these matters to our attention.

[OCmike]

The committee is working with other groups to develop a carbon-footprint "calculator" that will measure the environmental impact of each event...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA...wait, they're serious?

Funniest part about the whole story is them requiring all organic or local products. If the convention were anywhere in CA, which has pretty much the most diverse agriculture template anywhere on the planet, okay. But Colo-fucking-rado?! What's their growing season, six weeks? Brilliant!

It should be a message to citizens of unsustainable cities everywhere. This is your future.

Eating blue and purple food is my future?

[Mikey]

Seems to me that any group or organization putting out an RFP for food service has every right to specify whatever they want to serve (wolfman, you do know what an RFP is, right?). Not exactly big brother swooping down and forcing anything on anybody.

If you don't want to bid on the job then don't submit a proposal.

I thought Repbulicunts were all about the free market and stuff.

[PSUFAN]

Come on...Wolfman's rights are definitely hanging in the balance here. If he can't buy a slim jim at the Democratic National Convention, then our nation has failed utterly, and the wolves have started streaming in.

[Tom In VA]

Filafal, sprouts, and bean curd.

The new axis of evil.

[Mikey]

Eating blue and purple food is my future?

There's no blue food.

Sin,
George Carlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNHYw1DV ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(about 22 seconds in...)

[Cuda]

Eating blue and purple food is my future?

The Soylent Green doesn't come along until later

[OCmike]

Seems to me that any group or organization putting out an RFP for food service has every right to specify whatever they want to serve (wolfman, you do know what an RFP is, right?). Not exactly big brother swooping down and forcing anything on anybody.

If you don't want to bid on the job then don't submit a proposal.

I thought Repbulicunts were all about the free market and stuff.

There's nothing wrong with an RFP. The problem is when you make it so cost prohibitive that in order for caterers to get a bid accepted, they're most likely going to have to operate in the red. That's freaking ridiculous. But I guess that'd make the "profits are evil" Dem crowd feel all warm and fuzzy.

[Mikey]

They didn't specify a cost in the RFP, did they?

The suppliers are saying that it's going to cost a lot more than the alternative. I think that the organizers are likely aware of that possibility. They're free to submit whatever cost they think will be competetive and still make a profit. If they want to take a loss as the cost of getting the work and benefiting from the potential publicity then that's their choice too.

Like I said, it's a free market.

[Tom In VA]

Cost of doing business sometimes.

[BSmack]

You're a fucking moron. It's a fact that bears repeating. All you do is regurgitate meaningless platitudes that you don't even understand.

If you think the availability of locally grown, organic produce has anything at all to do with the "sustainability" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean) of a city...

Lemme get this straight, you admit that you don't understand what I am talking about? Yet still you try to insult it?



Here's a definition for you so that you might someday be able to converse with the grown ups about this issue.

http://www.rec.org/rec/programs/sustain ... /what.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Idiot.

[BSmack]

I'm clear on it now. Sustainability = Buzzword bullshit

No, it means that when gas is 20 dollars a gallon, cities like Denver will take it up the ass in the Supermarket. They can't grow their own food. Sorry about using big words you don't understand.

[Tom In VA]

I don't see it as a buzzword as much as it is a practical examination of logistics. Already there are news reports around here that due to the rising prices of gas and - the goods shipped to the store in gas powered vehicles - many people are "cutting back". One couple a "yuppie" couple in D.C. were opining that they usually liked to buy "organic" food but now are resorting to "eating cake" and what the peasants eat. The look to Obama to solve this problem.

When Democrats are forced to lower their standards and eat that which the peasantry must eat to survive - there is a serious issue at hand.

Don't make light of it mvscal.

Meanwhile, the dirt, will continue to thrive on chitlins, collard greens, Popeyes, McDonalds, Burger King, and of course --

Canned Salmon laced with radioactive material.






In all seriousness, I don't think it imprudent to research the effect consumption rates will have on our environment and ability for future generations to sustain themselves. I don't think BSmack is off his rocker in this matter. Then again, I'm off mine.

[Mikey]

HBJ, I don't think you ever had a rocker.

:wink:

If (and that's a big if) I ever retire or otherwise find the time, I'll start growing my own produce. I live in one of the greatest growing areas of the world and have enough property to sustain a whole commune if I so choose.

That, of course, is also based on the assumption that there will be any water at all left.

[PSUFAN]

"Sustainability" is definitely a big buzzword currently.

That's not the worst thing in the world, when you think about it. The conversation has to start somewhere.

I am a "conservative" - another buzzword. By that, I don't mean that I am a Bush Republican, I mean that I want to help preserve our environment. It seems a perfectly acceptable use of the term to me.

As a father, I want to be able to offer my children healthy foods. If research suggests that wild salmon is far more healthy than farmed salmon, then I want to act sensibly there. When it comes to agriculture, and consumer choice...I will choose the produce and products that are generated locally, where possible...and sensibly "sustainable" options are increasingly available.

[Mikey]

I am a "conservative" - another buzzword. By that, I don't mean that I am a Bush Republican, I mean that I want to help preserve our environment. It seems a perfectly acceptable use of the term to me.

I'm pretty sure that, instead of "conservative", this would actually make you a "preservative".

I, for one, am against preservatives unless they are absolutely necessary.

[Goober McTuber]

That, of course, is also based on the assumption that there will be any water at all left.

Ever hear of the Pacific Ocean? It has some water.

It certainly does, and it’s going to have a hell of a lot more once those polar icecaps get done melting.

[Mikey]

That, of course, is also based on the assumption that there will be any water at all left.

Ever hear of the Pacific Ocean? It has some water.

I live 13 miles from the ocean. That's too far to carry in buckets and too expensive to transport in my car at $20/gallon.

There's also a slight problem with salinity. If the desal plant in Carlsbad ever gets built I might be able to get some purified water there for about the same price as gas.

[BSmack]

In all seriousness, I don't think it imprudent to research the effect consumption rates will have on our environment and ability for future generations to sustain themselves. I don't think BSmack is off his rocker in this matter. Then again, I'm off mine.

You are undoubtedly off your rocker if you think the paltry, hideously vulnerable yields and wasteful, inefficient land use practices of "organic" farming are part of any solution to the ability of future generations to sustain themselves. You know they practice "organic" farming in Africa. Hows that working out for them?

Back at the ranch, the rest of the world increased grain yields by 300% between 1950 and 2000. There is more food and a greater variety of foods available now then at any other time in history of human civilization and it doesn't have jack fucking shit to do with organic farming.

Nice try at the strawman mv. Care to quote where I came out in favor of organic farming? My point was that a city like Denver is not sustainable on it's own merits. Packing 2.5 million people in a metro area with a 3 month growing season is only possible if the transport costs for food are low or if the growing season is artificially lengthened.

Nor are we ever going to have 20 dollar gas. Affordable energy independence is at our fingertips right now. All we have to do is do it. Nuclear power can and should supply the bulk of our electricity and in places where nukes aren't practical, coal gasification plants can be used. Coal liquefaction also yields good, low sulfur diesel fuel and diesel engines are far more fuel efficient than gas engines. There it is. "Sustainable" energy independence using proven and existing technology. No need to pump billions into pipe dreams that are decades away from practical use.

So, you're investing in these technologies? Starting a company to exploit their use? Building a nuke plant in your back yard? Exactly what the fuck are YOU doing to make these pipe dreams of yours come true?

[Goober McTuber]

Exactly what the fuck are YOU doing to make these pipe dreams of yours come true?

You want to know what he’s doing? He’s cornholing the entire Vogel family, including their household pets. How does that contribute to sustainability?

[Mikey]

Exactly what the fuck are YOU doing to make these pipe dreams of yours come true?

You want to know what he’s doing? He’s cornholing the entire Vogel family, including their household pets. How does that contribute to sustainability?

That's because they're a nuclear family.

[Tom In VA]

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, that was Mikey. He just flew in from Californ I A and as you can see his arms are tired.

*rimshot*

[BSmack]

Exactly what the fuck are YOU doing to make these pipe dreams of yours come true?

You want to know what he’s doing? He’s cornholing the entire Vogel family, including their household pets. How does that contribute to sustainability?

I'm sure he thinks of it as "precomposting".

[OCmike]

They didn't specify a cost in the RFP, did they?

They didn't have to. Everyone knows "organic" is code for "expensive as fuck"...especially in CO at current fuel prices.

They're free to submit whatever cost they think will be competetive and still make a profit. If they want to take a loss as the cost of getting the work and benefiting from the potential publicity then that's their choice too. Like I said, it's a free market.

Yeah, and anyone who submits a bid where they try to make a profit will end up getting frozen out by all of those willing to take a loss just for the prestige of being involved.

Sure, it's a free market, but what the Dems have done is taken what should have been a boon to the local economy and reduced it to caterers and suppliers taking a financial hit instead. Fucking brilliant.

[BSmack]

Yeah, and anyone who submits a bid where they try to make a profit will end up getting frozen out by all of those willing to take a loss just for the prestige of being involved.

Sure, it's a free market, but what the Dems have done is taken what should have been a boon to the local economy and reduced it to caterers and suppliers taking a financial hit instead. Fucking brilliant.

Like you wouldn't have had the same result if the Dems had asked for nothing but McDonalds Happy meals and Taco Bell Chimichangas? Of course there's going to be competition. And the prestige of the event will force vendors to compete a little harder no matter if the fare is organic blueberries or genetically modified corn.

[OCmike]

I don't disagree, and I'm sure there will always be vendors willing to operate in the red in order to gain the prestige and they'll probably win the bid...free markets and all. But the dems have fostered a situation here that almost mandates caterers to take a loss in order for the party to project a bullshit, unsustainable image.

I'm all for organic farming where it can be done in a cost effective manner, and I'm all for using local growers where possible, but to make such demands in a state where the vast majority of the organic food is going to have to be trucked in from CA ('specially the colored stuff), how exactly is that "going green" considering today's fuel costs and the resulting "carbon footprint" from all those smog pumping Peterbuilts??

[BSmack]

I don't disagree, and I'm sure there will always be vendors willing to operate in the red in order to gain the prestige and they'll probably win the bid...free markets and all. But the dems have fostered a situation here that almost mandates caterers to take a loss in order for the party to project a bullshit, unsustainable image.

I'm all for organic farming where it can be done in a cost effective manner, and I'm all for using local growers where possible, but to make such demands in a state where the vast majority of the organic food is going to have to be trucked in from CA ('specially the colored stuff), how exactly is that "going green" considering today's fuel costs and the resulting "carbon footprint" from all those smog pumping Peterbuilts??

I think we already established that the Rocky Mountains aren't exactly the breadbasket of the country, be that food organic or otherwise.

IMO, if you really want to make a statement, don't bother having the convention at all. Let all the delegates vote online via a secure server. Now THAT'S a green convention.

[Mikey]

how exactly is that "going green" considering today's fuel costs and the resulting "carbon footprint" from all those smog pumping Peterbuilts??

It's the thought that counts. The only thing that matters is that they feel like they're "making a difference" and we all know how precious feelings are to libtards.

I'm pretty sure Algore will have some extra room on his plane. Maybe they could make a stop in the OC at John Wayne Airport and pick up supplies at the Irvine Farmers Market. That way they could bypass the smog pumping Peterbuilts.

(really, though, fresh food would have to be trucked in to CO, prolly from Calfornia, Mexico or Chile, whether or not it's "organic")

[OCmike]

IMO, if you really want to make a statement, don't bother having the convention at all. Let all the delegates vote online via a secure server. Now THAT'S a green convention.

Yeah, 'cept all of the computers would have to be run by chinchillas on frictionless treadmills, in order to conserve electricity.

Really though, can you imagine either party giving up their opportunity to grandstand at the highest levels? Me neither. That's one thing that always amazed me about people who give money to the DNC or RNC. Sure, they do some good things for candidates here and there, but the vast majority of donations go to fund a huge party that every day donors aren't invited to. Dumb some?

[Mikey]

Dumb some?

We're talking about Chinese food now?

[BSmack]

BTW: It looks like Big Owwwww will be able to get his Slim Jim at the DNC after all.

Thousands of other parties hosted by corporations, lobbying groups, individuals, nonprofits and more will happen in Denver during the convention, Burnap says. None of them is subject to the committee's green agenda.

[Ken]

It is smack in the middle of cattle country after all.

Leave rumple's household out of this.