Looks like JaMarcus was a bargain last year

[poptart]

3rd overall pick Matt Ryan -- 6 yrs, 72 mil, almost 35 mil guaranteed.

1st overall pick J. Russell -- 6 yrs, 61 mil, almost 30 mil guaranteed.


Hmmmmm ..........

Aside from offering the take that inflation blows, I just don't think the Ryan kid will live up the $$ or the hype.
JMO.


McFadden and Dorsey just got a bit more pricey.

The suck.

[Headhunter]

Other more notable paydays...

Cowboys lock up T. Newman and Marion Barber III past the possible uncapped year.

Jerrah gets a rack!

Now if Bum's son can bench Roy Williams for Pacman or Mike Jenkins and Move Henry to safety, we might have the makings of a badass secondary.

This thread hijack has been brought to you by the letter A.

[RumpleForeskin]

Yeah, I think Atlanta overpaid for Ryan. The guaranteed money is what baffles me nowadays.

[BSmack]

Yeah, I think Atlanta overpaid for Ryan. The guaranteed money is what baffles me nowadays.

Guaranteed money is only part of the equation. You also have to look at the incentives and determine how makable they are. Poptart's comparison is incomplete.

[RumpleForeskin]

Ryan is in a less attractive market AND he wasn't the overall #1 pick, so the hype won't even be in the same neighborhood as it is for JaMarcus.

Ryan is getting paid more, but the pressure for him to perform is significantly lower than forJaMarcus.

[BSmack]

Ryan is in a less attractive market AND he wasn't the overall #1 pick, so the hype won't even be in the same neighborhood as it is for JaMarcus.

Ryan is getting paid more, but the pressure for him to perform is significantly lower than forJaMarcus.

You don't know that unless you know the incentive structures for both contracts.

[RumpleForeskin]

What incentive structures? Its the QB position. That is the position where you couldn't possibly have any incentives in the deal for the first couple of years because of the learning curve.

[poptart]

Russell has some incentives, but they are such a very 'minor' part of the contract.
Give-or-take a couple/few mil, what you see with his contract is what you get.

I don't know about Ryan's incentives, but I'm guessing they don't amount to a significant amount either.

[poptart]

Odds are he won't, you're right.

When you're #1 overall the bar is set pretty damn high.

When you look at the list of #1's, most have not lived up to it all.

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Hell, in the last 20 yrs, only Peyton Manning, Orlando Pace and Troy Aikman have been truly GREAT players.

Some other 'good' ones littered in there.

And some other total whiffs.

[RumpleForeskin]

I hate seeing Bo Jackson's name. Always the "What if' with that guy. Greatest ever comes to mind.

[BSmack]

I hate seeing Bo Jackson's name. Always the "What if' with that guy. Greatest ever comes to mind.

Not much of a what if. If he doesn't get hurt, he goes to the hall of fame. If he played football exclusively, he would be 1a to Jim Brown's 1.

If he had played football exclusively, it is possible that his condition would have been exposed before he ever had a chance to make a serious impact. With Avascular necrosis, Jackson was a ticking time bomb.

[ChargerMike]

Russell has some incentives, but they are such a very 'minor' part of the contract.
Give-or-take a couple/few mil, what you see with his contract is what you get.

I don't know about Ryan's incentives, but I'm guessing they don't amount to eating himself out of a job.

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[OCmike]

Yeah, I think Atlanta overpaid for Ryan. The guaranteed money is what baffles me nowadays.

NFL owners are still getting off easy compared to baseball where it's ALL guaranteed money. I hate unions with a passion, since they've done more bad than good over the years (pre-emptive message to BSmack...start a new thread), but I'd give my left nut to join that one.

If he had played football exclusively, it is possible that his condition would have been exposed before he ever had a chance to make a serious impact. With Avascular necrosis, Jackson was a ticking time bomb.

I could be wrong, but I thought that condition was caused as a result of his injury, was it not? Didn't he lose blood flow to the bone ('sup Luther) AFTER the hit?