Jim Webb--Kicking McCain's Ass (easily)

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:41 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:Jim Webb has a fat mouth that says things that get him into trouble.

Jim Webb will remain on the sideline.
Wrong, Bizzer. In fact Webb is very circumspect and careful in his statements.

1979 Article by Jim Webb wrote:Women can't fight

I agree with Jim, but I'm sure many of the females in this country would whine about this. Can't rally Democrat votes when a major constituency hates the Veep candidate.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:42 pm

Sorry, Bizzer, but if that's all you've got, you better get some more. The issue of women in combat really isn't an issue, if you've noticed.

Wagoner, whether we count the overall treatment of Native Americans as a single crime is a tricky proposition, since it certainly (and principally) includes the Spanish efforts in this regard. I'm regarding Viet Nam as a distinct action conducted by the fully matured and realized entity that is the United States. The Spanish American War would be the serious rival to the crime of Viet Nam, as this was pure empire building agression against soverign nations, same lies and faked attacks--and after invading and occupying foreign lands, we put a nice cherry on top by turning on our Filipino allies and launching a slaughter that the Japanese would study and earnestly emulate in their "liberation" of Nanking thirty five years later.

Viet Nam and the subsequent assault on Cambodia and Laos represents the most duplicitous, cowardly, and avaricious behavior of any government in the 20th century, including the Japanese and Germans. And what most folks don't realise is that virtually ALL of its direction--right down to the micromanaging of daily bombing targets--was conducted by Henry Kissenger personally.

This vile and utterly amoral character should certainly lead the parade to the gallows of the current demented and depraved--and unelected--cabal.

Current (unelected) cabal member
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MadRussian · Post by **MadRussian** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:53 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Sorry, Bizzer, but if that's all you've got, you better get some more. The issue of women in combat really isn't an issue, if you've noticed.

Wagoner, whether we count the overall treatment of Native Americans as a single crime is a tricky proposition, since it certainly (and principally) includes the Spanish efforts in this regard. I'm regarding Viet Nam as a distinct action conducted by the fully matured and realized entity that is the United States. The Spanish American War would be the serious rival to the crime of Viet Nam, as this was pure empire building agression against soverign nations, same lies and faked attacks--and after invading and occupying foreign lands, we put a nice cherry on top by turning on our Filipino allies and launching a slaughter that the Japanese would study and earnestly emulate in their "liberation" of Nanking thirty five years later.

Viet Nam and the subsequent assault on Cambodia and Laos represents the most duplicitous, cowardly, and avaricious behavior of any government in the 20th century, including the Japanese and Germans. And what most folks don't realise is that virtually ALL of its direction--right down to the micromanaging of daily bombing targets--was conducted by Henry Kissenger personally.

This vile and utterly amoral character should certainly lead the parade to the gallows of the current demented and depraved--and unelected--cabal.

Current (unelected) cabal member
[img]http://neal_ford.tripod.com/keitel.jpg[/img]

I see one who has drank deeply from the urinals of kerry's kool aid.

YOu have hit all five of these here. Congrats, I guess

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:02 pm

MadRussian wrote:

disturbingly stupid. your parents should have a television replaying your most idiotic moments chained around their necks for the rest of their days. whatever school instructed you needs to be leveld. Whatever town raised you should be nuked.

Jerkovich · Post by **Jerkovich** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:18 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
MadRussian wrote:
disturbingly stupid. your parents should have a television replaying your most idiotic moments chained around their necks for the rest of their days. whatever school instructed you needs to be leveld. Whatever town raised you should be nuked.

Wow, you only hit on three! Perhaps there is a cure for liberal dementia.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:29 pm

but I ain't a liberal.

If you were wise you'd just sit back and read these boards without posting.

Jerkovich · Post by **Jerkovich** » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:38 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:but I ain't a liberal.

If you were wise you'd just sit back and read these boards without posting.

Bace, eat a dick ya faggot. After all these years, all you have on me is some stupid queerdeer trolls.

You're seriously developmentally impeded.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:56 pm

Hey everyone! Kevnic must have finally dislodged all of the plungers from his rectum, and now he's back for more.

Be forewarned...he might tell you to eat a dick or something, so step to him carefully!

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:36 pm

Okay, we're fucked. Anyone but Webb on Obama's ticket, and it's President McCain. And that basically means a convenient dovetailing of the Armegeddon prophetic lunacy into the 2012 conclusion of the 5125-year cycle of the Mayan calendar, etc.

Webb opts out of VP consideration

Senator Jim Webb

Until this week, the celebrated and outspoken writer-senator was fawned over by political bloggers as a made-in-heaven vice presidential pick for presumptive Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama.

To them, Webb possesses all the right credentials: A first-termer like Obama (thus an outsider), a wise sage (over 60), with three decorated tours of Vietnam (needed military experience), a solid regional pick from the New South (Virginia), racial (white) and political philosophy (centrist to conservative).

The easy betting among pundits was that once former Gov. Mark Warner (D) of Old Town pulled his name from consideration two weeks ago, Webb might be the perfect Virginian to fill out the Obama ticket. Only weeks ago his Capitol Hill colleagues were referring to him as “Mr. Vice President,” as Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), called him on the Senate floor in June.

But on Monday, Webb -- exhibiting his independent streak and his penchant for surprise -- took himself out of consideration amid growing speculation that he was on Obama’s “shortlist” of running mates. He told Obama of his decision last Thursday in a phone call.

“Last week I told Senator Obama and his presidential campaign my firm intention to remain in the Senate, where I believe I am best equipped to serve the people of Virginia and this country,” Webb said in a statement. “Under no circumstances will I be a candidate for Vice President.”

Webb told The Times that he needed to make his intention clear. “I needed to clear the air,” he said. “There had been a lot of speculation for about eight or nine months and it was diverting us from doing what we need to do here. I needed to make it clear that I was not interested.”

However, Webb said he would continue to campaign for Obama, especially in Virginia, which has not swung Democratic since Lyndon B. Johnson’s landslide victory in 1964. “I am strongly behind Senator Obama, who I believe can win in Virginia,” he said.

On Tuesday night, a large crowd of admirers gathered for a book-signing event at Politics & Prose in Chevy Chase, to hear Webb’s views first-hand and to catch a book signature and perhaps a few fleeting moments with the political celebrity. “He’s really a superstar by my book,” said Myra Wade of Chevy Chase, an attorney who works downtown. “It’s a shame he wouldn’t allow himself to be considered for the vice presidency, but he must have his personal reasons.”

With Warner and Webb out, that leaves in Virginia only Gov. Tim Kaine (D) on Obama’s radar of prospective running mates. Kaine, a law school classmate and early Obama supporter, told reporters in June that he would be eager to run on an Obama ticket if asked.

On Tuesday, Kaine said in a statement that while he believe that Webb would have made “a great vice president,” it is “good news” that he’s staying at his post. “In a very short period of time, Jim has made us proud to call him our Senator,” Kaine said. “His service to Virginia and to the country has been invaluable and he and Mark Warner are going to make a great team after this November’s election.”

Much of Webb’s new book is a hard-hitting plan of attack for putting government back to work for its constituents, and for restoring the nation’s damaged standing around the world. It also makes a convincing case that Webb’s strengths lie principally in foreign policy and military affairs, two areas Obama has been criticized as lacking.

His ancestors fought in every major American war, and after finishing first in his class at the Marine Corps Officers’ Basic School at Quantico, Webb served in Vietnam and was awarded the Navy Cross, the Silver Star Medal, two Bronze Star Medals and two Purple Hearts. Two decades ago, he was the first Naval Academy graduate to serve in the military and then become Secretary of the Navy, serving under then President Ronald Reagan. His son Jimmy served a long tour with the U.S. Marines in Iraq.

In 2005, after a successful career as a war correspondent, author of six bestselling novels and acclaimed screenwriter, Webb recalled that he took several political activists to the Fish Market restaur ant in Old Town and asked them to calculate his chances of unseating incumbent Sen. George Allen. “They all agreed that I had about a 90 percent of losing,” Webb chuckled.

But in his victorious 2006 campaign, Webb made a cogent argument to Virginia voters on disengagement from Iraq and for replacing a senator (Allen) who voted 99 percent of the time with a President sagging in the polls. To drive his point with voters, Webb often wore Jimmy’s combat boots on the campaign trail while calling for a gradual end to it.

“It is frustrating the process has gone on hold while we wait for a new administration,” Webb said. “We hear more out of Iraq these days than we do Washington.”

In the meantime, Webb bides his time among the “scorpions in a jar,” as he refers to the Capitol in his book, a reference he told The Times was not directed at his fellow Senators or his hard-working staff. “I thoroughly enjoy the legislative process,” he said. “Sometimes it’s like a complex piece of non-fiction where we assemble the facts and approach the issues intellectually, as I would as an author.”

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:45 pm

As opposed to those solid Free Marketeers like Dick Cheney and Alan Greenspan? Those anti-Socialists?

Isn't it a little early to have been drinking hard?

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:09 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:but I ain't a liberal.

If you were wise you'd just sit back and read these boards without posting.

You just made Bushice crap his pants, literally

MadRussian · Post by **MadRussian** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:49 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:but I ain't a liberal.

If you were wise you'd just sit back and read these boards without posting.

If your not a liberal then you are a cock eyed window licking short bus padded helmet tard

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:29 am

It' d almost be worth letting Barry win, just to watch Jim go psycho early and often. Almost.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:55 am

MadRussian wrote:If your not a liberal then you are a cock eyed window licking short bus padded helmet tard

Hence the title. Fuck you all.

BTW it's you're not your. Just trying to keep Dims on the bench...

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:24 pm

Diogenes wrote:
MadRussian wrote:If your not a liberal then you are a cock eyed window licking short bus padded helmet tard
Hence the title. Fuck you all.

BTW it's you're not your.

Thanks for the assist. Poor dumb bastard can't help but fuck up.

Terry in Crapchester · Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:25 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, we're fucked. Anyone but Webb on Obama's ticket, and it's President McCain.

Do tell, NickyBabs.

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LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:16 pm

Crapper, the polls to which you refer are just speculative, and ultimately have nothing to do with how the actual election process occurs in this country. Of course a big sweep is properly expected in the House and Senate, and of course the legacy of the GOP is more piped than a white-collar criminal newbie mistakenly placed in an overpacked cellblock of hardtime thugs, and too the sheer weasal factor of McCain is absurdley high. SO FUCKING WHAT. The only way a Barack Hussein Obama can win is with Webb. Who has suggested Hillary makes for a dream ticket? I mean besides her and Bubba? In fact, Hillary--or any other woman--will only move all of the great welter of undecided folks straight to McCain. So, who are the other men veep potentials? Biden? Edwards?.......uh..?...well, gee, there are no others! McCain with Casino Greeter would beat that ticket.

I'm calling right now that Webb will reconsider. For all our sakes, you better hope so.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:28 am

Nicky Babs,

One of the former occupants of the office of Vice-President described his office (cleaner version) as "not worth a warm bucket of spit." You're forgetting that Cheney, and even Gore for that matter, is/was an aberration in terms of the amount of power afforded them. Against that backdrop, anyone who makes their decision in a Presidential election based on the running mate is a moron, plain and simple. Yourself included.

Even if you disagree with that, I notice that your basing your decision solely on who Obama picks as his running mate. No mention whatsoever of who McCain picks as his running mate. Gee, Nicky Babs, if I didn't know any better, I might conclude from that that you're a closet McCainiac. And a Vice-President, at best, is good for bringing his own home state.

And since you asked, as for Obama's running mate, I like Webb, but he's a loose cannon who ultimately would do more harm than good. Hillary needs to be as far away from the ticket as possible. Hillary should never be the Democratic nominee, or even in position to be it in the future. A Hillary-led Democratic ticket is a disaster waiting to happen of McGovern/Mondale-esque proportions. Biden? Something about him, I can't quite place my finger on it, rubs me the wrong way big-time.

My choices, in order:

John Edwards
Bill Richardson (probably would be a better choice for Secretary of State, but could be an effective mentor for Obama)
Brian Schweitzer

Don't like any of those? Try these on for size:

Tom Vilsack
Evan Bayh

All represent states that are in play in this election cycle, and potentially bring their home state into the Democratic column. Bayh, a high-profile Hillary supporter, also would represent an "olive branch" selection.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:42 pm

Crapper, you're missing a lot, the least of which is my name. "Babs" is mscval, this name was initially bab's, as in the bastard but true offspring of Jed Babbin, ultra right Ziocon war freak--former chemical weapons engineer. But our bab's proved such a knee-jerk Rove Monkey Limpdick parrot, that even such a lunatic as Babbin was disserved by this association, thus Babs--as in the wife of GH Bush and mother of the Chimp--was and remains far more appropriate.

As for the new importance of the veep, Cheney has indeed been an exception--to the point that the office is forever changed. And especially with the extremely risky proposition of presenting a perfectly electable candidate who happens to be technically "black" and whose middle name is Hussein. If you're still thinking in the old terms--who said it was "a bucket of spit"?--when was that, in the 1950's?--then you're walking around in a fog. Of course Obster's running mate is crucial. Agreed on Hillary. Schweitzer does look pretty good but can't counter McCain's "war record." Richardson would scare away everyone who doesn't speak Spanish, and Pretty Boy is simply a loser. As for McCain's veep, I've suggested Casino Greeter (that's Romney, crapper), but who knows, maybe Lieberman! Or he could very well roll the dice with Carly. Regardless, it's Webb or Armegeddon. Sorry.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:47 pm

Try 1930s. Garner to be precise.

Idiot.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:55 pm

Diogenes wrote:Try 1930s. Garner to be precise.

Idiot.

And he actually said the Vice Presidency wasn't "worth a bucket of warm piss".

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:11 pm

Point is, it's a completely outdated interpretation. Sure, the next veep won't be a Cheney Lord Of Darkness, but the importance will be extreme if only in the election itself. McCain will probably die in office--statistically, any way. And Obama's got a bullseye on his back the size of Texas. And every voter this time around will be made keenly aware of this--if only through the usual manipulated mainstream media, etc.

btw, is there a dumber mother fucker on this board than Diogenes? I really don't think so.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:12 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:btw, is there a dumber mother fucker on this board than Diogenes? I really don't think so.

Tough call.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:34 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote: I really don't think.
Me either.

FTFY.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:39 pm

Fuck, what a buzzkill...

Suck Off's over, folks.

Dio dropped a nuke -- the venerable cut out everything but "I don't think" from a post, and calling it a FTFY.

The biggest, most overused entry in the entire Tard Handbook.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:48 pm

Coming from a dumbfuck who insists on the impropriety of refering to a mountain range in the plural?

Stick to spellcheck 'smack', twinkie.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:16 pm

You are completely incapable of running any smack whatsoever.

This is not up for debate.

Yet, you feel qualified to make suggestions on how other people should smack?

Fucking A'... there's some, like WW for example, that are fun to smack on.

Tards like you, Dio... you don't smack them... you merely give them a submit button and let them do your light work for you.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:02 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Yet, you feel qualified to make suggestions on how other people should smack?

Actually I was just pointing out that you are a fucking moron.

Even better, one who rambles on for multiple pages making an fool of himself after he is shown to be full of shit.

Terry in Crapchester · Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:29 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Crapper, you're missing a lot, the least of which is my name. "Babs" is mscval, this name was initially bab's, as in the bastard but true offspring of Jed Babbin, ultra right Ziocon war freak--former chemical weapons engineer. But our bab's proved such a knee-jerk Rove Monkey Limpdick parrot, that even such a lunatic as Babbin was disserved by this association, thus Babs--as in the wife of GH Bush and mother of the Chimp--was and remains far more appropriate.

"Babs" was also the name of another poster on these boards of years past, now gone (I believe) but certainly not forgotten. You remind me of him/her/it. All that is needed is for you to start pimping the Michigan State women's basketball team.

As for the new importance of the veep, Cheney has indeed been an exception--to the point that the office is forever changed. And especially with the extremely risky proposition of presenting a perfectly electable candidate who happens to be technically "black" and whose middle name is Hussein. If you're still thinking in the old terms--who said it was "a bucket of spit"?--when was that, in the 1950's?--then you're walking around in a fog. Of course Obster's running mate is crucial. Agreed on Hillary. Schweitzer does look pretty good but can't counter McCain's "war record." Richardson would scare away everyone who doesn't speak Spanish, and Pretty Boy is simply a loser. As for McCain's veep, I've suggested Casino Greeter (that's Romney, crapper), but who knows, maybe Lieberman! Or he could very well roll the dice with Carly. Regardless, it's Webb or Armegeddon. Sorry.

As I've said, the Vice-President is good for (at most) one state in the electoral calculus. All of the possibilities I mentioned come from states that are in play this cycle. By contrast, neither Romney nor Lieberman would be capable of carrying his home state in the general election as McCain's running mate. So I guess that gives Obama a leg up over McCain.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:40 am

Of those mentioned, only Schweitzer and Bayh make any sense.

So neither has a shot with this clown.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:36 pm

mvscal wrote:Now Onigger has a very different problem. He needs to somehow overcome the fact that over two thirds of white americans think he is a lying, shitskinned fuckwit.

Absolute bullshit.

sin

Every fucking poll done since early June.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:08 pm

mvscal wrote:Shut the fuck up, idiot.

http://www.star-telegram.com/869/story/762423.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

THAT'S supposed to be your proof that 2/3 of white Americans distrust Obama? A poll that shows his unfavorable rating at 37% amongst white people?

Nice KYOA job tard.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:48 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Crapper, you're missing a lot, the least of which is my name. "Babs" is mscval, this name was initially bab's, as in the bastard but true offspring of Jed Babbin, ultra right Ziocon war freak--former chemical weapons engineer. But our bab's proved such a knee-jerk Rove Monkey Limpdick parrot, that even such a lunatic as Babbin was disserved by this association, thus Babs--as in the wife of GH Bush and mother of the Chimp--was and remains far more appropriate.
"Babs" was also the name of another poster on these boards of years past, now gone (I believe) but certainly not forgotten. You remind me of him/her/it. All that is needed is for you to start pimping the Michigan State women's basketball team.

As for the new importance of the veep, Cheney has indeed been an exception--to the point that the office is forever changed. And especially with the extremely risky proposition of presenting a perfectly electable candidate who happens to be technically "black" and whose middle name is Hussein. If you're still thinking in the old terms--who said it was "a bucket of spit"?--when was that, in the 1950's?--then you're walking around in a fog. Of course Obster's running mate is crucial. Agreed on Hillary. Schweitzer does look pretty good but can't counter McCain's "war record." Richardson would scare away everyone who doesn't speak Spanish, and Pretty Boy is simply a loser. As for McCain's veep, I've suggested Casino Greeter (that's Romney, crapper), but who knows, maybe Lieberman! Or he could very well roll the dice with Carly. Regardless, it's Webb or Armegeddon. Sorry.
As I've said, the Vice-President is good for (at most) one state in the electoral calculus. All of the possibilities I mentioned come from states that are in play this cycle. By contrast, neither Romney nor Lieberman would be capable of carrying his home state in the general election as McCain's running mate. So I guess that gives Obama a leg up over McCain.

First, crapper, no one knows who the fuck your babs is, and no one cares. Second, the fact that you've said the veep candidate is good for one state means jack fucking squat. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about--dragging in extremely obsolete references by some 1930's relic, ignoring the very different conditions both politically and socially in 2008, and apparently not having a clue as to the nature of how the last two elections were stolen.

Suffice to say, the vast resources of AIPAC and its owned mainstream media is carefully rolling out its plan to prop McCain while undermining the Obster. Did you happen to check out the nature of the interview with him on Leher News Hour yesterday? The bitch was basically asking him FOX style questions!! ("Given the marked success of the Surge, why do you still...?" etc)

The Veep is more important in this election than any other in our nation's palsied history. (McCain and Lieberman, I'm juuuust ready to call it).

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:48 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote: You obviously have no idea what you're talking about...

LTS TRN 2 wrote: ...apparently not having a clue

Funny shit.

Cue Judy Collins Send in the clowns

Terry in Crapchester · Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:32 pm

mvscal wrote:With another 31% allegedly undecided. The undecideds will break heavily for McCain per the Bradley Effect. 30% of the white vote is coffin nail for any campaign.

Your shine boy is deep shit.

Considering that the Democratic convention hasn't even been held yet . . .

But keep thinking your boy is going to win. It's quite entertaining.

Terry in Crapchester · Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:47 pm

mvscal wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Considering that the Democratic convention hasn't even been held yet . . .
Is that supposed to change something?

Each party's candidate historically gets a post-convention bump. Tell me you knew.

Btw, a more accurate indicator of what to expect in the Presidential election, at least for the time being.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:51 pm

mvscal wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Considering that the Democratic convention hasn't even been held yet . . .
Is that supposed to change something?

It will when Terry's wife gets there and rags on any delegates she catches frequenting Dungver strip joints!

He's hoping to score a post convention "bump".

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:52 am

Terry, how many more times do you plan on posting that gay little map between now and November 4th?

The thing shows a cute purple ring around Ohio -- signifying 'barely Dem' -- and there ain't no fucking way Ohio is going to Obullshitter.

Thought you might like to know.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:27 am

Next on the ashheap of history...

Two possible Obama VP picks coy on their prospects

By Caren Bohan Wed Jul 16, 5:05 PM ET

WEST LAFAYETTE, Indiana (Reuters) - Two men often mentioned as possible running mates to U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama joined him on the campaign trail in Indiana on Wednesday, further stoking speculation about the Democrat's closely guarded search for a No. 2.
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Former Georgia Sen. Sam Nunn and Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh appeared flattered that their names were being bandied about in the media as vice presidential contenders.

But neither would comment on whether they had been contacted by the Obama campaign about the job.

"It's an honor, but I have no expectations of being offered any office. I am not in any way sitting on the edge of a chair, waiting to go back into government," Nunn told reporters.

"Certainly I would to talk to Sen. Obama if he wanted to talk about it," he added. "But I think the chances of an offer are pretty slim and I would have to do a lot of thinking ... about what was really the best role for me."

Bayh said he was enjoying his current job as a senator and added, "I think any questions about the vice presidential thing are understandable and it's good for my ego but I should probably let Sen. Obama and his campaign address those kinds of questions."

Nunn and Bayh are both respected voices on national security issues. Obama, a 46-year-old first-term Illinois senator, is trying to counter criticism from John McCain, his Republican rival in the November election, that he lacks the foreign policy seasoning to serve as commander-in-chief.

The two Democrats were part of a panel discussion with Obama at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana, on the threats posed by nuclear and biological weapons and potential cyber attacks.

Obama said President George W. Bush's preoccupation with Iraq meant those issues had been neglected for the past eight years.

"It's time to break out of Washington's conventional thinking that has failed to keep pace with unconventional threats," he said.

The Democratic presidential candidate said if elected he would make eliminating nuclear weapons a central part of his security strategy.

"It's time to send a clear message to the world: America seeks a world with no nuclear weapons," he said.

Obama plans visits soon to Iraq and Afghanistan as well as Jordan, Israel, Britain, Germany and France. Dates for the trips have not been disclosed for security reasons.

Many analysts say it would make sense for Obama to pick a running mate steeped in national security experience to add heft to his ticket.

Nunn, 69, former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Bayh, 52, and a member of the Senate Armed Services and Intelligence committees, both vouched for Obama's national security credentials.

"He has a history of thinking beyond the horizon, anticipating the kind of challenges we face," said Bayh, who campaigned for Obama's former rival, Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton, during their race for the party's nomination but has since thrown his support to Obama.

(Editing by David Alexander and David Wiessler)

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I've already forgotten which losers ran with the internet inventor and the french blowhard.

Whoever it is, I'll forget by next June.

McClown 2008
Romney 2009 (crosses fingers).

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:17 am

mvscal wrote:For whatever reason, both parties spewed up the gimpiest, brokedick candidates they could possibly get their hands on.

Yeah, it's too bad we don't have the stellar candidates we've had to choose from the last two elections.