The Iraq-Pakistan border?

[BSmack]

WTF? Is there a day that can go by without the senile gibbering dumbfuck McCain muffing yet another foreign policy question?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/2 ... 14013.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BSmack]

At least he knows there are only 50 states in the United States.

Are you sure?

[PSUFAN]

McCain and Obama are going to make occasional gaffes. Either of them will be a HUGE improvement on George W. Bush in the intelligence department. W makes blades of grass look brilliant.

[Goober McTuber]

W makes blades of grass look brilliant.

Those blades of grass look particularly intelligent and clever when executing flanking maneuvers on Rack Fu.

[BSmack]

"Let me be absolutely clear," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said today at a press conference in Amman, Jordan. "Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change."

Thanks for clearing that up, you dumb n...igger.

Meanwhile McCain admitted to CBS news that he can't even comprehend the basic details regarding the timeline of the conflict in Iraq. Things like the Sunni "Awakening" happening BEFORE the "surge", not AFTER the "surge".

[BSmack]

The guys on the ground had a different opinion in September of 2006.

With respect to the violence between the Sunnis and the al Qaeda -- actually, I would disagree with the assessment that the al Qaeda have the upper hand. That was true earlier this year when some of the sheikhs began to step forward and some of the insurgent groups began to fight against al Qaeda. The insurgent groups, the nationalist groups, were pretty well beaten by al Qaeda.

This is a different phenomena that's going on right now. I think that it's not so much the insurgent groups that are fighting al Qaeda, it's the -- well, it used to be the fence-sitters, the tribal leaders, are stepping forward and cooperating with the Iraqi security forces against al Qaeda, and it's had a very different result. I think al Qaeda has been pushed up against the ropes by this, and now they're finding themselves trapped between the coalition and ISF on the one side, and the people on the other. '

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/ ... iptid=3738" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Go face fuck a grenade you lying sack of shit.

[BSmack]

That was happy talk intended for public consumption which anyone with half a brain can recognize. The ball didn't get rolling until we reinforced them.


The classified assessement wasn't quite so rosy, BTW:

Situation Called Dire in West Iraq
Anbar Is Lost Politically, Marine Analyst Says

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 11, 2006; Page A01

The chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq recently filed an unusual secret report concluding that the prospects for securing that country's western Anbar province are dim and that there is almost nothing the U.S. military can do to improve the political and social situation there, said several military officers and intelligence officials familiar with its contents.

The officials described Col. Pete Devlin's classified assessment of the dire state of Anbar as the first time that a senior U.S. military officer has filed so negative a report from Iraq.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01204.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You do realize that MacFarland acknowledged the exact same thing in his 9-29-06 comments?

actually, I would disagree with the assessment that the al Qaeda have the upper hand. That was true earlier this year when some of the sheikhs began to step forward and some of the insurgent groups began to fight against al Qaeda. The insurgent groups, the nationalist groups, were pretty well beaten by al Qaeda.

This is a different phenomena that's going on right now.

Nice try at a diversion.

[BSmack]

Even McCain isn't trying to spin the bullshit you're spewing mv. He's trying to argue that the surge to place sooner than everybody thought. The trouble is, his revised time line still isn't correct.

McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surge

McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surge; says some elements began before Bush's order

TOM RAUM
AP News

Jul 23, 2008 15:31 EST

Republican John McCain is pushing back against Democratic criticism that he misstated the timing of the buildup of troops ordered by President Bush in early 2007. He says parts of the new strategy began months earlier.

The Arizona senator has told reporters during a stop at a super market in Bethlehem, Pa., that what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components." McCain says some components of the surge began before Bush ordered more U.S. troops into Iraq.

McCain says U.S. Col. Sean MacFarland started carrying out elements of a new counterinsurgency strategy as early as December 2006.

[Mister Bushice]

McCain denies he misstated timing of Iraq surge

By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer 53 minutes ago

BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Republican John McCain pushed back on Wednesday against Democratic criticism that he misstated when the troop buildup ordered by President Bush began, saying elements were put in place before Bush announced the strategy in early 2007.
ADVERTISEMENT

He told reporters during an unscheduled stop in a super market that, what the Bush administration calls "the surge" was actually "made up of a number of components," some of which began before the president's order for more troops.

It's all a matter of semantics, he suggested.

McCain said Army Col. Sean MacFarland started carrying out elements of a new counterinsurgency strategy as early as December 2006.

At issue are McCain's comments in a Tuesday interview with CBS. The Arizona senator disputed Democrat Barack Obama's contention that a Sunni revolt against al-Qaida combined with the dispatch of thousands more U.S. combat troops to Iraq to produce the improved security situation there. McCain called that a "false depiction."

Democrats jumped on his comments. They said McCain's remarks showed he was out of touch, because the rebellion of U.S.-backed Sunni sheiks against al-Qaida terrorists in Iraq's Anbar province was under way well before Bush announced in January 2007 his decision to send 30,000 additional U.S. troops to Iraq.

McCain asserted he knew that and didn't commit a gaffe. "A surge is really a counterinsurgency made up of a number of components. ... I'm not sure people understand that `surge' is part of a counterinsurgency."

Speaking on CBS Tuesday of a Sunni sheik who approached Col. MacFarland, McCain said, "Because of the surge, we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening."

On Wednesday McCain continued to try to portray his opponent as naive on Iraq while the Illinois Democrat is visiting the war zone, the Middle East and Europe.

"I am again deeply disappointed that Sen. Obama will not recognize that the surge has succeeded," McCain said. He said that "no rational person" could think otherwise.

McCain said he had been briefed by Col. MacFarland, commander of 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division, in December 2006 to discuss the strategy that remains in force today. Bush announced the surge in January 2007 and the first of the new troops began operations in Iraq in early February 2007.

McCain made an unscheduled stop at "Kings Supermarket" in a shopping mall here, and greeted shoppers and commiserated with them on the soaring costs of both food and fuel.

"Among other challenges, Americans face the price of milk at over $4 a gallon," McCain told reporters as he stood in front of a dairy case.

But questions quickly turned to other subjects.

McCain brushed aside a question on a running mate when asked whether Minnesota's Republican governor, Tim Pawlenty, was now at the top of his list.

"I can't mention names," he said. But asked what he thought of Pawlenty, McCain said, "He's a great, fine person."

"He, and (Louisiana Gov.) Bobby Jindal and a number of other governors are the future of the Republican party," McCain said.

McCain had been headed to Louisiana later Wednesday, but bad weather generated by Hurricane Dolly, forced a last minute postponement of the trip. He was going to Ohio instead.

Earlier, campaigning in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., McCain credited the recent $10-a-barrel drop in the price of oil to President Bush's lifting of a presidential ban on offshore drilling, an action he has been advocating in his presidential campaign.

The cost of oil and gasoline is "on everybody's mind in this room," McCain told a town-hall meeting.

He criticized Obama for opposing drilling on the Outer Continental Shelf.

Bush recently lifted the executive order banning offshore drilling that his father put in place in 1990. He also asked Congress to lift its own moratorium on oil exploration on the outer continental shelf which includes coastal waters as close as three miles from shore.

"The price of oil dropped $10 a barrel," said McCain, who argued that the psychology of lifting the ban has affected world markets.

The White House didn't go that far. Presidential spokeswoman Dana Perino said the price drop also could reflect diminished demand.

"I don't know if we fully deserve the credit," Perino said.

"We don't predict what happens in the market," she said. "We can't really tell. Certainly, taking that action would send a signal that at least the executive branch is serious about moving forward and increasing the supply we have in America."

A barrel of light, sweet crude fell $1.86 to $126.56 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. That's down from more than $140 a barrel earlier in the summer. There are 42 gallons in each barrel.

[War Wagon]

"Let me be absolutely clear," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said today at a press conference in Amman, Jordan. "Israel is a strong friend of Israel's."

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that blurb won't make CNN Headline News.

[BSmack]

"Let me be absolutely clear," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, said today at a press conference in Amman, Jordan. "Israel is a strong friend of Israel's."

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that blurb won't make CNN Headline News.

Whitey, you ignorant slut. Leave it to one of the KC contingent to glass dique in the same fucking thread.

BTW, I don't watch much CNN. But Kieth Olbermann and Dan Abrams both covered Obama's slip of the tongue. Which is more than we can say about CBS with John McCain.

[BSmack]

No, the trouble is that McCain was right about the surge and the n...igger was dead wrong.

Which, of course, explains your increasingly frantic attempts to deflect attention away from the n...igger's piss poor judgement by quibbling over a meaningless timeline.

Lemme see, do I take the word of a Brigadier General who's actions helped initiate the Anbar Awakening? Or do I take the word of an ignorant racist dumbfuck?

Mmmmmmm

[War Wagon]

Obama's slip of the tongue.

the senile gibbering dumbfuck McCain

Hilarious.

When Obama mis-speaks, it's nothing more that a "slip of the tongue". When McCain does so, he's a "senile gibbering dumbfuck".

That's awesome.

[BSmack]

Obama's slip of the tongue.

the senile gibbering dumbfuck McCain

Hilarious.

When Obama mis-speaks, it's nothing more that a "slip of the tongue". When McCain does so, he's a "senile gibbering dumbfuck".

That's awesome.

Well, maybe if McCain can get his number of factual mistakes/misstatements back into single digits per week, I'll take that back. Otherwise it stands.

[Diogenes]

Obama's slip of the tongue.

the senile gibbering dumbfuck McCain

Hilarious.

When Obama mis-speaks, it's nothing more that a "slip of the tongue". When McCain does so, he's a "senile gibbering dumbfuck".

That's awesome.

That's DNC gospel.

[BSmack]

The general supports my opinion and the bottom line remains that the n..igger is the ignorant dumbfuck in this equation.

McCain was correct to support the surge and the n...igger got it wrong. No spin or attempt to divert attention from his blunder is going to change that FACT.

What color is the sky in your homeworld?

[BSmack]

Feel free to check back in when you're ready to discuss facts.

You mean like the fact that the Anbar awakening began 6 months before the surge was announced and a year before surge forces in country reached their full levels?

For some reason, you don't want to talk about that.

[Cuda]

Obama's slip of the tongue.

the senile gibbering dumbfuck McCain

Hilarious.

When Obama mis-speaks, it's nothing more that a "slip of the tongue". When McCain does so, he's a "senile gibbering dumbfuck".

That's awesome.

Yet the Senile, Gibbering Dumbfuck at least knows which committees he's a member of...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjzb61wfyN0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Just this past week, we passed out of the out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee - which is my committee - a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon," Obama said at a press conference in Sderot, Israel.

Committee Assignments
Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs
Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...those sheiks who participated in the Awakening

Why don't you call them for what they actually are? The Sunni Insurgency.

If you like, you may also use your State Department's handle of Concerned Local Citizens.

[BSmack]

Needless to say, the situation in Anbar did not improve until we reinforced those sheiks who participated in the Awakening. What part of that are you struggling to comprehend?

At least now you're admitting the "Anbar Awakening" began before "the surge". Nice backpedal I guess. .

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Did you lose some sort of sig bet or something?

[BSmack]

Did you lose some sort of sig bet or something?

No, it's the helmet for the Goal Line Blitz team I own.

Introducing the Stalingrad Ironmen.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4220" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Dr_Phibes]

he's just trying to look edgy and irreverent.

it's an absolute disgrace, take that off immediately and slap a mighty taco logo on instead.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

he's just trying to look edgy and irreverent.

The American "left".

Careful, don't get any frappachino foam on your new iMac.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

" I am very disappointed."

[Dr_Phibes]

Bet the Stalingrad Ironmen blow the player budget on wheelchair access ramps. And the local lesbian poet gets to sing the anthem at games while smoking gets banned in the stands.

BSmack, condoner of bullies.

[BSmack]

Looks like I touched a nerve with the commies.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

:x