Rack the LPGA

[WolverineSteve]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... olfer.html

[Goober McTuber]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

Not to mention warren, Screw_Michigan and Adelpiero.

[Q, West Coast Style]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... olfer.html

I watched most of Euro 2008 this past June which took place in Austria and Switzerland. England did not qualify. Neither did Ireland or Scottland or Wales or Northern Ireland. There there no primary English speaking nations involved. The host countries were not primary english speaking countries. Yet, English was spoken at every game over the stadium's public address system.

Also, english was one of the three languages spoken by PA's at the Olympics in China.

I just don't understand the paranoia that exists in those who fear the english language is under attack. So what if you have to dial one for english. It's not that hard. And overall, I think the english language is in good shape. It's not going anywhere.

[Mikey]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... olfer.html

¿cómo?

[Screw_Michigan]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

Not to mention warren, Screw_Michigan and Adelpiero.

Go fuck yourself, you insufferable tard. Understand that?

[Felix]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... olfer.html

¿cómo?

actually I think the right word is yyogee

[Left Seater]

Not surprised by this move by the LPGA. Corporations are shelling out huge jack and they want to be able to interact with the product, ie the golfers. If the sponsors can't talk to those who play they aren't getting their monies worth.

Bottom line, English is the world's language. It started with England and their outposts around the globe. Now it is trade with the US. Hell, even in China the signs are in English and the local symbols. As for the Olympics, French and English are always spoken, plus the local language.

[socal]

This is a problem for the LPGA? Stupid is as stupid does.

[KC Scott]

Until the LPGA starts looking like this I will never care

[Felix]

Until the LPGA starts looking like this I will never care

some of it does



:P

[Goober McTuber]

The LPGA will require golfers to speak English. Now if we could only demand the same of lawn care workers, maids, call center operators, cabbies, University Professors, etc. we may be getting somewhere.

Not to mention warren, Screw_Michigan and Adelpiero.

Go fuck yourself, you insufferable tard. Understand that?

Now you’re catching on, Screwball. Just keep it real short and simple. Less chance for errors.

[Dinsdale]

Bottom line, English is the world's language.

Bottom line...

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


Uhm... you do realize that OVER HALF of all people who live on earth and speak English as their primary language...


live in the United States, right?


Yes, you did read that right -- over half the world's English as First Language population lives in the US.

Of the world's "major languages," English is by far the least commonly used... but an "official language" in more countries than any other language. Conversely, the most commonly spoken language on Earth is Mandarin, which is only "officially" spoken in one country.

[WolverineSteve]

So what? The LPGA is in AMERICA. They want the big bucks from our tour....learn the fucking language. Not too much to ask imo. The tour is in trouble. The sponsors who kick out the dough ought to be able to converse with tourney winners.

[Dinsdale]

So what? The LPGA is in AMERICA.

Huh?


You told a bald-faced lie.

I callled you out for it.

And your response is "so what"?


Dude -- that's board bitch shit.


"So what?"

So -- you were wrong... because you made shit up off the top of your head, because you didn't actually know what the fuck you were talking about.


Which in fact seems like something you're particularly prone to do:

The tour is in trouble.

Uhm... wanna hook me up a link here?

Because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too tough to find one that shows fairly steady GROWTH IN REVENUE over the last several years.


Just curious -- at some point were you planning on using any sort of facts, or at least some sort of half-truth to try and make your point? Because running out the exact-opposite-of-truth really isn't working for you.


Anything else you'd like to discuss that you have absolutely no fucking clue about, yet are willing to actually make up what amounts to lies to try and support your case with?

[Goober McTuber]

Hey Dins, you’re arguing with two different people. Lefty made the statement that “English is the world's language”. Which, BTW, would be somewhat supported by the statement that Enlish is “an ‘official language’ in more countries than any other language”.

[Dinsdale]

Hey Dins, you’re arguing with two different people.

My bad... with these people making ridiculously inaccurate statements, it would theoretically difficult for one person to be that ignorant by themself

Lefty made the statement that “English is the world's language”. Which, BTW, would be somewhat supported by the statement that Enlish is “an ‘official language’ in more countries than any other language”.

Of the languages which someone or another have deemed "major languages," English is by far the least commonly spoken...


So no. If over half of all people who use a language as their primary all live in the same country, it would be asinine to call it "the world's language."

And I don't really see how anyone could argue otherwise.


Jeebuz people, there's a big world out there that exists outside of the USA. You might wanna at least acknowledge its existence.

[Felix]

The tour is in trouble.

Uhm... wanna hook me up a link here?

keep providing a steady diet of Seon Hwa Lee, Na-Yeon Choi, Eun-Hee Ji, and Song-Hee Kim winners, and you'll see viewership decline at a fairly rapid pace

I quit watching womens golf because I have no interest in an endless parade of South Koreans who's names I can't pronounce (much less remember)

I think I'm fairly typical in that regard

[Dinsdale]

keep providing a steady diet of Seon Hwa Lee, Na-Yeon Choi, Eun-Hee Ji, and Song-Hee Kim winners, and you'll see viewership decline at a fairly rapid pace

I quit watching womens golf because I have no interest in an endless parade of South Koreans who's names I can't pronounce (much less remember)

I think I'm fairly typical in that regard

Wow -- didn't expect Felix of all people to check in on the Dumbass Roll Call, especially when it comes to golf.


See if this helps --

While there's plenty of other reasons why, it remains that in the USA, NBA ratings are steadily declining... yet worldwide, their ratings have increased overall.


Light coming on yet, or do you need more help?


The bottom line remains -- LPGA revenues are steadily increasing, regardless what certain spreaders-of-mistruths in this thread say.

[Goober McTuber]

So no. If over half of all people who use a language as their primary all live in the same country, it would be asinine to call it "the world's language."

And I don't really see how anyone could argue otherwise.

English is ... an "official language" in more countries than any other language.

That would certainly give English a leg up as "the world's language." You can go to most any country in the world and find a chunk of the population who speak English. Not so much so for Mandarin, or any other language you can name. Nobody said it was the primary language spoken by the most people. But you can find it spoken in more countries than any other language. "The world's language" seems a fair description.

[WolverineSteve]

Uhm... wanna hook me up a link here?

Because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too tough to find one that shows fairly steady GROWTH IN REVENUE over the last several years.

a passage from this article..
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080826/glf_lpga ... .html?.v=1

Seon-Hwa Lee, the only Asian with multiple victories this year, said she works with an English tutor in the winter. Her ability to answer questions without the help of a translator has improved in her short time on tour.

"The economy is bad, and we are losing sponsors," Lee said. "Everybody understands."

Now Lee only plays on the tour so I wouldn't expect to accept her knowledge of the tour.

Everybody understands...except Dins.

If you had an ad budget to spend, and times were lean enough to shrink said budget, you might stop spending on ads and sponsorships that are seen by the fewest people. The LPGA falls into this category.

edit to add another passage from another source.

Concerned about its appeal to sponsors, the women’s professional golf tour, which in recent years has been dominated by foreign-born players, has warned its members that they must become conversant in English by 2009 or face suspension.

“We live in a sports-entertainment environment,” said Libba Galloway, the deputy commissioner of the tour, the Ladies Professional Golf Association. “For an athlete to be successful today in the sports entertainment world we live in, they need to be great performers on and off the course, and being able to communicate effectively with sponsors and fans is a big part of this.

“Being a U.S.-based tour, and with the majority of our fan base, pro-am contestants, sponsors and participants being English speaking, we think it is important for our players to effectively communicate in English.”

[Left Seater]

Uhm... you do realize that OVER HALF of all people who live on earth and speak English as their primary language...

live in the United States, right?

Yes, you did read that right -- over half the world's English as First Language population lives in the US.

Of the world's "major languages," English is by far the least commonly used... but an "official language" in more countries than any other language. Conversely, the most commonly spoken language on Earth is Mandarin, which is only "officially" spoken in one country.

So you jump to conclusions and then reinforce my point for me? Man, back away from the keyboard for a minute and think before just banging away at keys. As has already been pointed out to you I never said that English was the most widely spoken language, just that it is the world's language. When an Italian air traffic controler and a Chinese pilot are trying to communicate before landing, what language do they speak? Correct, English! Why are signs in mainland China also in English? Because English is sometimes a common language between people of a country with over 200 versions of the same language. Why are school children in many countries required to take English classes in school? Because English is the world's language.

I have traveled to 14 countries as part of my job, where English is not the First Language. In each of those people also spoke English, and I could always find signs in English. Again, English is the world's language.

[Felix]

Wow -- didn't expect Felix of all people to check in on the Dumbass Roll Call, especially when it comes to golf.


See if this helps --

While there's plenty of other reasons why, it remains that in the USA, NBA ratings are steadily declining... yet worldwide, their ratings have increased overall.


Light coming on yet, or do you need more help?


The bottom line remains -- LPGA revenues are steadily increasing, regardless what certain spreaders-of-mistruths in this thread say.

look bud, I'm not voicing an opinion on whether the revenues are up or down, viewership is up or down (although I do think the seemingly endless supply of S. Koreans will eventually hurt television viewership IN THE US), or whether they should speak english or fuckin swahili....I'm stating that I quit watching the LPGA because I could give a fat rats ass about watching south koreans winning lpga events

[M Club]

you could've just said english is the world's lingua franca and saved yourself the hassle of reading 15 posts.

[Dinsdale]

Yes... I'm sure Carolyn Bivens is absolutely thrilled that a newbie chick who barely speaks English is commenting (quite inaccurately-btw) about financial/sponsorship troubles.


Revenues have increased. Period. EOS. As have purses, by a huge amount.

Just because some little skank said otherwise, it doesn't change the FACT that the LPGA has never been more popular.


But because "she plays on the tour," we're supposed to take her word as law? That's right up there with asking warren to comment on the finances of Exxon, or JTR giving us his thoughts on the financial state of MGM.

She's under the gun with the English-speaking thing already, so she decided to make completely false statements about finances/sponsorship?

Time to update your resume, Seon-Hwa Lee -- your career as an LPGA golfer is just about over. They'll fudge her English-test results to drop the hammer on her retarded ass...


but quoting somebody that incredibly stupid as the champion of your point looks good on you, though.

[Goober McTuber]

But you’re quietly dropping the argument about “the world’s language”, right?

[BSmack]

Yes... I'm sure Carolyn Bivens is absolutely thrilled that a newbie chick who barely speaks English is commenting (quite inaccurately-btw) about financial/sponsorship troubles.

1. She's not a newbie. She's won tournaments in 3 straight seasons.

2. Maybe her opinion was influenced by the persistient rumors that Ginn is going to pull out of the LPGA sponsorship business. That along with the constant rumors about McDonalds, Safeway, Corona, Longs Drugs...

Hey, for all I know Carolyn Bivens has big money sponsors lined up to replace all of the current sponsors. And I certainly wouldn't sell shares in the idea that the LPGA is about to go belly up. But the rumors are definitely out there regarding sponsor defections.

Revenues have increased. Period. EOS. As have purses, by a huge amount.

Revenues have increased because Bivens has jacked up the sanctioning fees for tournaments. While this has resulted in a substantial increase in revenue, it has also made the sponsorship situation much more fluid.

Just because some little skank said otherwise, it doesn't change the FACT that the LPGA has never been more popular.

The popularity of the LPGA is always a hard thing for a Rochester native to ascertain. You see, around here the local LPGA tournament has been accorded media coverage befitting a major sporting event since it's inception. Crowds of 25k for a weekend day are commonplace even though for the last 10 years, Annika Sorenstam avoided Locust Hill like the plague.

So I guess it's good to see the rest of the country catch up to Rochester.

But because "she plays on the tour," we're supposed to take her word as law? That's right up there with asking warren to comment on the finances of Exxon, or JTR giving us his thoughts on the financial state of MGM.

She's under the gun with the English-speaking thing already, so she decided to make completely false statements about finances/sponsorship?

Time to update your resume, Seon-Hwa Lee -- your career as an LPGA golfer is just about over. They'll fudge her English-test results to drop the hammer on her retarded ass...

All she said was that the economy was bad and that the LPGA was losing sponsors. She also backed the new policy unconditionally. I'd hardly expect the LPGA execs to be unhappy with her. If anything, I'd say she's bucking for a leadership position somewhere down the line. And with her two wins this year,4 in the last 3 years and top 10 world ranking, her card is secure for a while.

[MuchoBulls]

Until the LPGA starts looking like this I will never care

It already does look likes this