Best choice for McCain's running mate???

[battery chucka' one]

It's official. Bitch got the job.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/ ... index.html

Never breed.

[JayDuck]

I don't know if its a bad pick, but there's no doubt its a desperate one. Apparently the GOP really feared what happened in the DNC.

They apparently don't think McCain can win if they can't divide the democrats on the sexism issue.

I think they would have had better luck peeling off feminists with Hutchison, though. With Palin's youth, inexperience and beauty (got to admit, she's a MILF), the democrats will quickly spin it as the more beautiful woman passing over the more experienced one.

He's sure not playing it safe, though. Its either going to be a homerun, or a strike out, and I think we'll know relatively soon who is going to win this election by the response she gives McCain with the Hillary feminists.

[Diogenes]

Thanks. The rest of us knew that an hour ago.

It wasn’t official an hour ago.

It was announced on Fox. CNN and you just suck.

Bitch.

[Diogenes]

I don't know if its a bad pick, but there's no doubt its a desperate one. Apparently the GOP really feared what happened in the DNC.

They apparently don't think McCain can win if they can't divide the democrats on the sexism issue.

I think they would have had better luck peeling off feminists with Hutchison, though. With Palin's youth, inexperience and beauty (got to admit, she's a MILF), the democrats will quickly spin it as the more beautiful woman passing over the more experienced one.

She also has more conservative credentials and can speak to gas price issues among other things.

And good luck running against a young inexperienced Veep with the Obamanation heading your ticket.

[Goober McTuber]

Thanks. The rest of us knew that an hour ago.

It wasn’t official an hour ago.

It was announced on Fox.

Sorry. I forgot to monitor the official Republican news agency. Bitch.

[JayDuck]

And good luck running against a young inexperienced Veep with the Obamanation heading your ticket.

Or visa versa. Obama's not going to run against inexperience, it just hinders the GOP argument against him to have someone even younger on their ticket. Especially when the top of the ticket is a man who will surpass average male life expectancy early in his first term.

But no, I don't expect Obama to be anything but full of praise for the Palin VP pick.

[Diogenes]

It wasn’t official an hour ago.

It was announced on Fox.

Sorry. I forgot to monitor a real news agency.

That's okay. Bitch.

[Diogenes]

And good luck running against a young inexperienced Veep with the Obamanation heading your ticket.

Or visa versa. Obama's not going to run against inexperience, it just hinders the GOP argument against him to have someone even younger on their ticket.

Of course she has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined.

And I think the outsider issue just got flipped.

[JayDuck]

Or visa versa. Obama's not going to run against inexperience, it just hinders the GOP argument against him to have someone even younger on their ticket.

Not really. She's been a mayor and governor which is more executive experience than anyone on the Democratic ticket has.

She was a (part time) mayor of a town of 6,000 and governor over the least populated state for a year and a half.

I think the likely explanation is that the GOP felt that the DNC speakers, like Bill Clinton, had made a good enough argument against the experience meme, for Obama, that they didn't feel that line of argument was going to be effective anymore against him anyway. They can't be planning to keep attacking on that.

[Mikey]

If McCain gets elected and croaks halfway into his first year, then she'll turn from a VPILF to a PILF.

[battery chucka' one]

Or visa versa. Obama's not going to run against inexperience, it just hinders the GOP argument against him to have someone even younger on their ticket.

Not really. She's been a mayor and governor which is more executive experience than anyone on the Democratic ticket has.

She was a (part time) mayor of a town of 6,000 and governor over the least populated state for a year and a half.

I think the likely explanation is that the GOP felt that the DNC speakers, like Bill Clinton, had made a good enough argument against the experience meme, for Obama, that they didn't feel that line of argument was going to be effective anymore against him anyway. They can't be planning to keep attacking on that.

To get technical, Alaska is no longer the 'least populated state'. That's old statistics you have there.

Anybody remember what the speech last night was about? Anyone? Anyone? Didn't think so.

How much executive experience on the American Socialist errrr....Democrat ticket?

[Mikey]

She also has more conservative credentials and can speak to gas price issues among other things.

Does she drive a lot or something? Own a gas station?

[JayDuck]

Anybody remember what the speech last night was about? Anyone? Anyone? Didn't think so.

Oh, no doubt that was effective there. But if the best thing his VP pick can do for him is distract from an Obama speech...

...well, maybe she is just supposed to be eye candy.

[battery chucka' one]

Oops. Throwback. In her speech, she just dropped a 'NEW-Q-LER'. No worries. Forgivable.

[Diogenes]

Anybody remember what the speech last night was about? Anyone? Anyone? Didn't think so.

...an Obama speech...

...just supposed to be eye candy.

Not fair. He talks pretty too.

On the other hand, Palin actually has substance.

On energy she can speak to ANWR, she's trying to open up natural gas pipeline , she's taken on oil companies and her husband works in the industry.

She's also got a son going to Iraq in contrast to the Obama run-away-first policy.

[JayDuck]

On energy she can speak to ANWR, she's trying to open up natural gas pipeline , she's taken on oil companies and her husband works in the industry.
She's also got a son going to Iraq in contrast to the Obama run-away-first policy.[/b]

The fact that her husband works for an oil company is NOT a positive.

And Biden's got a son going to Iraq as well.

[Diogenes]

On energy she can speak to ANWR, she's trying to open up natural gas pipeline , she's taken on oil companies and her husband works in the industry.
She's also got a son going to Iraq in contrast to the Obama run-away-first policy.[/b]

And Biden's got a son going to Iraq as well.

Which means it is neutralized at least. Besides, Biden has to adopt the RunAway platform.

[JayDuck]

Which means it is neutralized at least. Besides, Biden has to adopt the RunAway platform.

It was already a non-issue that didn't need to be addressed on the GOP side.

It doesn't neutralize Biden's son going to Iraq, because its the GOP side that wants to stay there in the first place. And McCain already has a son or two over there in the first place. They aren't going to start playing the "we've got 3 sons over there against your 1" game. Its just a non-issue.

[Diogenes]

I like the choice. But even if you don't, you have to like the way the Campaign handled DNC week. First announce Friday as the day for the announcment. Then leak that he's made a choice. Then he says he hasn't made a final one. Then officially announce he finally has. Then their releasing a new ad...which basicly says congrats, Barak. Then this.

Keep a media presence without actually doing anything disruptive, then make everyone forget about the idiots on parade rally.

[Goober McTuber]

It was announced on Fox.

Sorry. I forgot to monitor a real news agency.

That's okay.

Diaphanous made a funny. Fox, a real news agency.

Oh, and nice use of the quote-and-reply equivalent of IKYABWAI. Bitch.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

It's official. Bitch got the job.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/ ... index.html

Married: To Todd Palin; five children. The oldest, Track, serves in the U.S. Army; the youngest, Trig, has Down syndrome.

I'll start praying for them...

[Mikey]

Jeeeez, what's in between...Trick, Truck and Trog?

[Diogenes]

Three girls.

Her husband is part Eskimo, those are probably Inuit names..

[Diego in Seattle]

Three girls.

Her husband is part Eskimo, those are probably Inuit names..

So I guess if McCooCoo is elected we'll be seeing a casino opening at the Naval Observatory.

[Tom In VA]

I love the Democrats, really, they've mastered speaking out of both sides of their mouths so well .... some people actual confuse them for being good orators.

Good Job Diego, thanks for keeping it real.

[poptart]

My take for the past couple of months is that McCain will win a close election in November ... if he doesn't step on his dick pretty badly.

Me thinks he stepped on his dick pretty badly here.

We see him working, sure.
Go after the Hillary clan who isn't thrilled with B.O.
And do so with a woman who is a conservative voice, so as not to disappoint the base.

But there are a few problems with the selection.

First, she does nothing for him geographically/electorally.
But more importantly, at McCain's age, the reality that he could die in office is one to take seriously.
So you've got a pretty damn inexperienced (and low national profiled) 44 yr old woman from Alaska who would assume the office of prez of the U.S.

I'm here to tell ya that plenty of folks are gonna have a hard time swallowing that pill.

If I'm a McCain supporter I don't like the pick, sorry.

[Tom In VA]

You know pop, that angle has been covered sort of. If McCain croaks, Palin could always select a "Biden Like" ... in terms of experience as the VP.

Personally I don't think either candidate selects a VP without some ... influence from the party leaders. I think Obama and McCain both selected individuals based on what the party thought best.

Remains to be seen if it was a good idea for either of them.

[poptart]

When I said that 'McCain' steppped on his dick, I mean, of course, 'TEAM' McCain, as you're right, Tom, this choice was certainly not his alone to make.

There are some potential positives that I can see.

For all of B.O.'s endless puking out of the 'change' mantra, when push came to shove on picking a running mate, he went with a classic inside Washington lifer in Biden.
So now here comes McCain selecting a real out-of-the-mainstream vp candidate in Palin.

He gives B.O. a mild facial on that score.

Palin is very bright, well-spoken, energetic and more than a little ... fiesty.
I could see her holding up very well in her debates with Biden.
And it's quite possible/likely that she'll goad the ol' blowhard into flapping his hole into some laughably regretable statements.
I can also see her taking on a bit of the 'attack dog' role in this campaign, slamming both Biden and Obama, and taking great delight in doing so.

Good theatre.

Make no mistake, she is a VERY conservative candidate, and that pleases the base.
The base would prefer an experienced white male candidate, but they can live with her, considering her very conservative basis.

The fact that she has no ties to a currently unpopular president is also a plus, IMO.
It serves to separate McCain some from the idea that it'll be 4 more years of Bush.

And if Palin flashes a shot-or-two of cleavage along the way, all the better for ratings.


... if not my underoos.


See, it's not all doom and gloom for the GOP.

[battery chucka' one]

With Palin, we have a candidate who has executive experience. That's something that Obama can't brag. Also, though she is 'inexperienced' in the grand scheme of things, there is a reason why she's insanely popular in Alaska and it's not because she's doing a horrific job. I think that this next week, at the convention, will be telling. I'm very interested in seeing how she does. I have a feeling that she'll do well. Her stances, as yet, are solid, yet not staid. As per 'change', what addresses a switch more: McCain choosing Palin or Obama linking arms with Biden? I think it's a brilliant choice and, keeping with an intelligent choice, will do McCain no harm. The VP is not a co-leader. From what I can tell, their job is not to set policy, but rather to help 1) win votes and 2) serve as desired by the president. Heck, Cheney had two exceptional debates in 2000 and 2004, but has he done anything as far as governing in 8 years? I don't think so.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

At least Palin's office wont be swarming with "America Last" Neo-Con shitbags.

RACK her for that, at least.

[Mississippi Neck]

My take for the past couple of months is that McCain will win a close election in November ... if he doesn't step on his dick pretty badly.

Me thinks he stepped on his dick pretty badly here.

We see him working, sure.
Go after the Hillary clan who isn't thrilled with B.O.
And do so with a woman who is a conservative voice, so as not to disappoint the base.

But there are a few problems with the selection.

First, she does nothing for him geographically/electorally.
But more importantly, at McCain's age, the reality that he could die in office is one to take seriously.
So you've got a pretty damn inexperienced (and low national profiled) 44 yr old woman from Alaska who would assume the office of prez of the U.S.

I'm here to tell ya that plenty of folks are gonna have a hard time swallowing that pill.

If I'm a McCain supporter I don't like the pick, sorry.

I'm glad I found my way back to this site...lol.

Not a bad read on things poppola

[poptart]

It may have been a good read, Neck, but it may also have been ... off base.
I'm not afraid to admit that I might have underestimated the deeply rooted sheeple nature of the voting public.
But I guess time will tell.

A few other positives I see so far for McCain with the Palin selection ...

1. The media has been in love with B.O., in part because of their liberal tendency, but also in part because is ... fresh, young, interesting.
But now we have, in Palin, someone younger, more fresh, and interesting in her own right.
So it blunts some of Obama's 'charm' in that regard, and gives the media someone else to focus on.

2. She's got a lot of the 'every man/woman' feel to her that will resonate with much of middle America.
I think male conservatives LOVE her to death already.
And most female conservatives dig her too.
She'll fire up a lot of women in the middle, just by virtue of having a slit and teets.

3. This young chick from Alaska has, in some respects, more REAL experience than the guy at the top of the other party's ticket.
And that is pert' funnay.


But you know, the 'McCain is the reformer' load of B.S. that she and he are now tossin' around is the biggest load of crappola I think I've ever heard.

McCain ... reformer?? lol

You mean the McCain who voted against the Bush tax cuts?
The McCain who pimps amnesty for illegals?
The McCain who's name is etched on Al Gore's "We are the World" Global Warming dildo that's poised to enter the American taxpayer's anal cavity?

That 'reformer' McCain??

Can't.
Stop.
Laffing!

Hey, Palin is a mere pawn for the GOP, and that is a pity.

It's "Hey, look at me ... I'm everything John McCain ISN'T, so ... vote for John McCain, please."

LMAO


You go, sheeple.

[rozy]

One heartbeat, Tart, one heartbeat.

McCain will spend the next 2 months running from his immigration stance as far as he possibly can. Texas, Cali, and Arizona are decided so he won't be campaigning in those 3.

Nothing has made me change my ambivalence toward McCain in general, but he did just make the best decision of the latter half of his life.

I promise I won't wish ill of him...or for him... after he takes the oath in January.

No, really, I do. I promise...

[battery chucka' one]

I agree that McCain's been awful at times in his past. Lesser of two evils is still evil. However, Palin, from what I can tell, IS the real deal. I too won't wish ill on McCain. Palin came somewhat out of nowhere as did Obama. However, in the past few years, she's actually affected change in Alaska.

However, I have a feeling, as I did that Palin was going to be the VP nominee, that something will happen between now and November that will overwhelmingly shift the election in Obama's behalf. Hope I'm wrong and it's all good, but who knows? We'll see.

God's in control. That's all I know for certain. Peace.

[SunCoastSooner]

God's in control. That's all I know for certain. Peace.

Not to turn this into a theological debate or anything but he is far from in control by your own good book. That pesky free will concept in Genesis and all.

[BSmack]

That pesky free will concept in Genesis and all.

Excuse us? WTF does Genesis have to do with our classic song?

sin

[Diogenes]

God's in control. That's all I know for certain. Peace.

Not to turn this into a theological debate or anything....

Then Don't.