Gene Chizik to Auburn

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:11 pm

i normally would've agreed spot on with mgo, but shoalzie used ellipses, which made me question my own judgment about the bcs conferences.

minorthreat · Post by **minorthreat** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:19 pm

http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid= ... ted=search

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:08 pm

The Black AD hired himself a cracker

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:57 pm

If some blacks would work as hard at WORK as hard as they work at playing the race card, things may be different. Seriously, no one is more obsessed with racism than black people. As someone else said, we have a black Prez (elect) now. There will always be some level of racism in society. This "every fucking time a white dude gets hired, he's taking some black dude's job" bullshit makes me want to punch any fucker who says it in the face.

No one is claiming Tuberville was fired due to racism. However, had he been black with the same resume, the fucking hand-wringing, race card throwing bastards would be saying he was fired because he was black.

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:18 pm

Papa Willie wrote:Why didn't Michigan hire Gill?

because they hired someone who wasn't 5-19 as a head coach.

plus, his name is rodriguez. auburn should have hired themselves a cracker named lashawn and avoided this mess all together.

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:23 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:If some blacks would work as hard at WORK as hard as they work at playing the race card, things may be different. Seriously, no one is more obsessed with racism than black people. As someone else said, we have a black Prez (elect) now. There will always be some level of racism in society. This "every fucking time a white dude gets hired, he's taking some black dude's job" bullshit makes me want to punch any fucker who says it in the face.

No one is claiming Tuberville was fired due to racism. However, had he been black with the same resume, the fucking hand-wringing, race card throwing bastards would be saying he was fired because he was black.

what blacks are you talking about, specifically? i'm willing to bet turner gill puts in his share of hours.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:53 pm

Once again

If a Black coach that was an assistant at Auburn at one time went on to be a 5-19 Head Coach at a BCS conf school in his first HC gig, would Auburn have rehired him to be their Head Coach?

Honest answers only

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:20 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:Once again

If a Black coach that was an assistant at Auburn at one time went on to be a 5-19 Head Coach at a BCS conf school in his first HC gig, would Auburn have rehired him to be their Head Coach?

Honest answers only

That's a trick question and I can see right through it....

The answer is blacks don't ever get hired so no one can prove one way or another.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:40 am

IndyFrisco wrote:If some blacks would work as hard at WORK as hard as they work at playing the race card, things may be different. Seriously, no one is more obsessed with racism than black people. As someone else said, we have a black Prez (elect) now. There will always be some level of racism in society. This "every fucking time a white dude gets hired, he's taking some black dude's job" bullshit makes me want to punch any fucker who says it in the face.No one is claiming Tuberville was fired due to racism. However, had he been black with the same resume, the fucking hand-wringing, race card throwing bastards would be saying he was fired because he was black.

Ya, and about every time some black guy gets a position of note the Limbaugh-crowd is going on about how it got handed to him because he's black. Goes both ways.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:52 am

Danimal wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:If some blacks would work as hard at WORK as hard as they work at playing the race card, things may be different. Seriously, no one is more obsessed with racism than black people. As someone else said, we have a black Prez (elect) now. There will always be some level of racism in society. This "every fucking time a white dude gets hired, he's taking some black dude's job" bullshit makes me want to punch any fucker who says it in the face.No one is claiming Tuberville was fired due to racism. However, had he been black with the same resume, the fucking hand-wringing, race card throwing bastards would be saying he was fired because he was black.
Ya, and about every time some black guy gets a position of note the Limbaugh-crowd is going on about how it got handed to him because he's black. Goes both ways.

Yeah, on a racist scale of 1-10 (10 being the KKK) I'd say Frisco's about a 37.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:08 am

Papa Willie wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:Once again

If a Black coach that was an assistant at Auburn at one time went on to be a 5-19 Head Coach at a BCS conf school in his first HC gig, would Auburn have rehired him to be their Head Coach?

Honest answers only

Has USC ever had a black coach? Racists?

Nice job of avoiding the point. And before you try to go to the "well Nebraska didn't hire him" card:

1. Bo was the booster fave. Gill would've been a tough sell for Osborne(who was best man at Gill's wedding) with Buffalo still only in mid-turnaround. Auburn had the luxury of seeing Buffalo completely turned-around. If the hire was being made this year Bo wouldn't have gotten the nod.

2. We really needed defense and hired a defensive guy. Auburn really needed offense AND HIRED A DEFENSIVE GUY. Ya Chizik like Bo understands the progam he is going to, that is a plus.

3. If Bo had already gotten his shot as a HC and the team he took-over just got worse we sure as hell wouldn't have hired him. Nobody is saying Chizik got a plum assignment, he obviously didn't. But in his second year he couldn't even get through the cupcakes unscathed and he failed to win a single conference-game. If Chizik staye he'd start '09 on the hotseat.

The scenarios are totally different. GIll now has a better resume. Bo hadn't been unsuccessful in a previous HC-stint. Bo fills needs better than Chizik.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:23 am

TheJON wrote:
Danimal wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:If some blacks would work as hard at WORK as hard as they work at playing the race card, things may be different. Seriously, no one is more obsessed with racism than black people. As someone else said, we have a black Prez (elect) now. There will always be some level of racism in society. This "every fucking time a white dude gets hired, he's taking some black dude's job" bullshit makes me want to punch any fucker who says it in the face.No one is claiming Tuberville was fired due to racism. However, had he been black with the same resume, the fucking hand-wringing, race card throwing bastards would be saying he was fired because he was black.
Ya, and about every time some black guy gets a position of note the Limbaugh-crowd is going on about how it got handed to him because he's black. Goes both ways.
Yeah, on a racist scale of 1-10 (10 being the KKK) I'd say Frisco's about a 37.

Unfortunately nowadays anytime a black gets or loses a position worth noting there is some contingent on one side going-on about how it came down to race. Not saying those people aren't right sometimes, but they tend to be kneejerk and assume the worst.

As far as this particular hire goes I think it wouldn't have been very controversial if Gill got passed-over for somebody like Leach or Patterson. Both have serious resumes. Hell I could see Muschamp, his name is on-fire now and would really bring excitement to the program. But Chizik coming-off an unimpressive stint at ISU looks fishy. With that hire I can see where black dudes are saying a brother got fucked-over. Can I say why for sure GIll didn't get the job, obviously no, but I think it looks questionable.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:14 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:Once again

If a Black coach that was an assistant at Auburn at one time went on to be a 5-19 Head Coach at a BCS conf school in his first HC gig, would Auburn have rehired him to be their Head Coach?

Honest answers only

Has USC ever had a black coach? Racists?

Auburn ever had a black AD?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:57 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:Once again

If a Black coach that was an assistant at Auburn at one time went on to be a 5-19 Head Coach at a BCS conf school in his first HC gig, would Auburn have rehired him to be their Head Coach?

Honest answers only

i suspect having a NC ring from UT and going undefeated as DC at Auburn has more to do with the "tolerance" for 5-19 than the color of his skin. if you (arbitrarily or conveniently) exclude those factors (the gaudy ring and previous success at AU) from the conversation and staple race into it, you're left with an assertion that race is the factor by a kind of negative proof that lacks supporting propositions (as expressed above).

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:03 pm

the AD hires and fires the coaches, maybe he is racist vs his own race

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:05 pm

M Club wrote:i'm willing to bet turner gill puts in his share of hours.

And he will get his opportunity, deservedly so. If a white guy gets passed over as Gill did, noone notices. And noone should...either way. It's fucking life. To quote some lameass song: You don't always get what you want.

jon, look me up when you're not a bitch which will be in the timeframe of never.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:33 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:
M Club wrote:i'm willing to bet turner gill puts in his share of hours.
And he will get his opportunity, deservedly so. If a white guy gets passed over as Gill did, noone notices. And noone should...either way. It's fucking life. To quote some lameass song: You don't always get what you want.

jon, look me up when you're not a bitch which will be in the timeframe of never.
A&M has gone through several coaches recently. Any of them been black?

I don't give a fuck what color they are as long as they win...and they haven't recently. Kim Jong Il and Michelle Obama could have a kid and if he wins us games, sign him up.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:18 pm

4 by my count

http://www.aggieathletics.com/sports/m- ... staff.html

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:26 am

IndyFrisco wrote:
M Club wrote:i'm willing to bet turner gill puts in his share of hours.
And he will get his opportunity, deservedly so. If a white guy gets passed over as Gill did, noone notices. And noone should...either way. It's fucking life. To quote some lameass song: You don't always get what you want.

jon, look me up when you're not a bitch which will be in the timeframe of never.

What the fuck did I say???

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:49 pm

Papa Willie wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3796147

Looks like we're going back to the spread.

Bwahahahahaha... Aggie logic. Hope you enjoyed the last few years of relevance. See ya again in another quarter century when Allbarn matters again.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:42 pm

hilarious.

how long does Chizik have? to run an O with no personnel?

i kinda question Malzhan, actually, for taking that job. one more year of 500 yard games at Tulsa and Kevin Wilson to Northwestern? or somewhere? who else has scored 60 point in 5 straight games....that's the kind of nonsense that makes AD's go bull-moose rut.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:30 am

Papa Willie wrote:

Oh well - at least OU is set for more runs in a Tier 4-5 conference and

Funny because last I checked the Big 12 schools have had more all americans and still have more national titles than the SEC... good luck spinning that one son.

...... Wheat?

Funny hearing an Aggie talk about a professional school in such a manner.

I'd ask you to compare the two school's positions in moot point arguments in front of the Supreme Court or links by former students and instructors at Allbarn to the Supreme Court, or heck even district court judge ships... if Allbarn even had a law school. But hey nothing wrong with going to grad school for Poultry Science...

Maybe you could explain the countless more innovations in Cardiovascular surgery that Allbarn has accomplished as opposed to what Oklahoma has done the previous decade and a half... if it wasn't for that pesky problem of not actually having a school of medicine on the campus... But there's no shame in becoming a nurse through Allbarn that works for an Alabama, UAB, or Oklahoma grad. Either that or you could become a surgeon on large animals.

Maybe cite the many famous politicians or political campaign and party leaders from either party that are Allbarn grads... Oh yeah that's right Allbarn doesn't have a college of political science.

Seems like wheat would be more in the domain of Allbarn grad than to Oklahoma grad.

Wakey Wakey Papa field hand. Thanks for playing...

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:09 pm

Huh? I would say Misery is the 5th best team in the XII this year behind OSU, t.u., OU and taco tceh. They lost all 3 games to those teams they played (OSU, t.u., OU) socring 25 per game on average. They scored 30 against Northwestern while attempting to give them the win at every opportunity yet still managed to eek it out.

If anything, the Misery game "indicated" absolutley nothing. Why have a "wait and see" attitude about Auburn's new coach and a "this meaningless game in which misery STILL won is an indication of how bad defenses are" attitude? Let's wait and see, shall we?

edit: And before tomorrow's post comes, EVERYONE and their grandmother expect the game between Oregon and OSU tonight to be high scoring on both sides of the ball.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:39 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Huh? I would say Misery is the 5th best team in the XII this year behind OSU, t.u., OU and taco tceh. They lost all 3 games to those teams they played (OSU, t.u., OU) socring 25 per game on average. They scored 30 against Northwestern while attempting to give them the win at every opportunity yet still managed to eek it out.

If anything, the Misery game "indicated" absolutley nothing. Why have a "wait and see" attitude about Auburn's new coach and a "this meaningless game in which misery STILL won is an indication of how bad defenses are" attitude? Let's wait and see, shall we?

edit: And before tomorrow's post comes, EVERYONE and their grandmother expect the game between Oregon and OSU tonight to be high scoring on both sides of the ball.

I disagree. I think Kansas was playing better ball than Misery by the end of the season. The USF loss took a lot out of their sails coming into conference play. By the end they were moving back in the right direction and took Misery down. I think Baylor could have been a pretty even match with Mizzou by the end as well. The North was just simply atrocious; if aTm was in the north they might have put together a bowl season...

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:19 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Huh? I would say Misery is the 5th best team in the XII this year behind OSU, t.u., OU and taco tceh. They lost all 3 games to those teams they played (OSU, t.u., OU) socring 25 per game on average. They scored 30 against Northwestern while attempting to give them the win at every opportunity yet still managed to eek it out.

If anything, the Misery game "indicated" absolutley nothing. Why have a "wait and see" attitude about Auburn's new coach and a "this meaningless game in which misery STILL won is an indication of how bad defenses are" attitude? Let's wait and see, shall we?

edit: And before tomorrow's post comes, EVERYONE and their grandmother expect the game between Oregon and OSU tonight to be high scoring on both sides of the ball.
I disagree. I think Kansas was playing better ball than Misery by the end of the season. The USF loss took a lot out of their sails coming into conference play. By the end they were moving back in the right direction and took Misery down. I think Baylor could have been a pretty even match with Mizzou by the end as well. The North was just simply atrocious; if aTm was in the north they might have put together a bowl season...

Ok, let me clarify. Misery was AT BEST the 5th best team. You knew where I was going with it though, I assume.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:50 am

Papa Willie wrote:I'd hate to guess how many spots Chase Daniel went down in the draft after last night....

Any team who would even draft him, period, would be fucking stupid. Dude is not a pro QB. Prolly means KC will draft him.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:20 pm

^^^ Exactly ^^^

His best chance to do anything football related is in coaching. He's a cocky hothead so it may work for him.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:02 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:I'd hate to guess how many spots Chase Daniel went down in the draft after last night....
Any team who would even draft him, period, would be fucking stupid. Dude is not a pro QB. Prolly means KC will draft him.

Go fuck yerself!

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