Which of the following "active" (or near active) NFL head coaches will, iyo, eventually make it to Canton?
John Fox: 63-49, 5-3 in playoffs, 1 NFC Championship
Jon Gruden: 95-81, 5-4 in playoffs, 1 NFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Jeff Fisher: 128-102, 5-6 in playoffs, 1 AFC Championship
Tony Dungy: 139-69, 9-10 in playoffs, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Mike Tomlin: 22-10, 3-1 in playoffs, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Bill Cowher: 149-90, 12-9 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Brian Billick: 80-64, 5-3 in playoffs, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Ken Whisenhunt: 17-15, 3-1 in playoffs, 1 NFC Championship
Mike Holmgren: 161-111, 13-11 in playoffs, 3 NFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Mike Shanahan: 146-98, 8-5 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Tom Coughlin: 115-93, 8-7 in playoffs, 1 NFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Andy Reid: 97-62, 10-7 in playoffs, 1 NFC Championship
Wade Phillips: 70-49, 0-4 in playoffs
Bill Belichick: 138-86, 15-4 in playoffs, 4 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowl Championships
Hall of Fame - yes or no
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Re: Hall of Fame - yes or no
John Fox: no
Jon Gruden: no
Jeff Fisher: no
Tony Dungy: probably, but only because he was the first black head coach to win a superbowl
Mike Tomlin: to early to tell
Bill Cowher: no
Brian Billick: no
Ken Whisenhunt: are you serious?
Mike Holmgren: yes
Mike Shanahan: yes
Tom Coughlin: no
Andy Reid: no
Wade Phillips: 70-49, 0-4 in playoffs
Bill Belichick: 138-86, 15-4 in playoffs, 4 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowl Championships[/quote]
Jon Gruden: no
Jeff Fisher: no
Tony Dungy: probably, but only because he was the first black head coach to win a superbowl
Mike Tomlin: to early to tell
Bill Cowher: no
Brian Billick: no
Ken Whisenhunt: are you serious?
Mike Holmgren: yes
Mike Shanahan: yes
Tom Coughlin: no
Andy Reid: no
Wade Phillips: 70-49, 0-4 in playoffs
Bill Belichick: 138-86, 15-4 in playoffs, 4 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowl Championships[/quote]
Re: Hall of Fame - yes or no
Whisenhunt is off to a good start, DFan.
Nobody else has been able to win with the 'Tardinals for a long time, and yet he won the NFC in his 2nd year there.
Nobody else has been able to win with the 'Tardinals for a long time, and yet he won the NFC in his 2nd year there.
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Re: Hall of Fame - yes or no
The ones I think have a better than average chance...
Jeff Fisher: 128-102, 5-6 in playoffs, 1 AFC Championship: Probably the most underrated coach in the NFL. If he wins a Super Bowl he's in. Otherwise he'll have to stick around for another 8 years to pick up his 200th win to have a chance.
Bill Cowher: 149-90, 12-9 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship: Best winning percentage of the group. He's in as soon as the Hall voters believe he's retired for good.
Mike Holmgren: 161-111, 13-11 in playoffs, 3 NFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship: He's in.
Mike Shanahan: 146-98, 8-5 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships: He's in.
Bill Belichick: 138-86, 15-4 in playoffs, 4 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowl Championships: A no brainer, even after the cheating was exposed. He's in.
Jeff Fisher: 128-102, 5-6 in playoffs, 1 AFC Championship: Probably the most underrated coach in the NFL. If he wins a Super Bowl he's in. Otherwise he'll have to stick around for another 8 years to pick up his 200th win to have a chance.
Bill Cowher: 149-90, 12-9 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship: Best winning percentage of the group. He's in as soon as the Hall voters believe he's retired for good.
Mike Holmgren: 161-111, 13-11 in playoffs, 3 NFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship: He's in.
Mike Shanahan: 146-98, 8-5 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships: He's in.
Bill Belichick: 138-86, 15-4 in playoffs, 4 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowl Championships: A no brainer, even after the cheating was exposed. He's in.
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BSmack wrote:Bill Cowher: 149-90, 12-9 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship: Best winning percentage of the group. He's in as soon as the Hall voters believe he's retired for good.
Not even close. Heck, his winning % isn't even the highest for all Steeler coaches listed...
When did 62% become > 67% (Dungy) or 69% (Tomlin)?
Why do you despise Math so much?
Re: Hall of Fame - yes or no
I didn't put Marty Schottenheimer on the list -- 2 years removed from being active.
Marty Schottenheimer: 200-126, 5-13 in playoffs
6th winningest coach of all-time.
Eight Division Championships, but never won a Conference Championship.
Is he in?
Belichick is a lock.
Dungy is a near lock.
Cowher is a very likely.
Shanahan is very likely.
Holmgren is probable.
Marty Schottenheimer: 200-126, 5-13 in playoffs
6th winningest coach of all-time.
Eight Division Championships, but never won a Conference Championship.
Is he in?
Belichick is a lock.
Dungy is a near lock.
Cowher is a very likely.
Shanahan is very likely.
Holmgren is probable.
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Because it brings out the nickpicking fuckwad in you. Perhaps I should have been more specific and said that Cowher had the best win % of the group of 5 coaches I had selected? Would that have been enough for you to turn off prick mode?ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:BSmack wrote:Bill Cowher: 149-90, 12-9 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship: Best winning percentage of the group. He's in as soon as the Hall voters believe he's retired for good.
Not even close. Heck, his winning % isn't even the highest for all Steeler coaches listed...
When did 62% become > 67% (Dungy) or 69% (Tomlin)?
Why do you despise Math so much?
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BSmack wrote:Because it brings out the nickpicking fuckwad in you. Perhaps I should have been more specific and said that Cowher had the best win % of the group of 5 coaches I had selected? Would that have been enough for you to turn off prick mode?
The fact that you left out Dungy (a stone cold lock) out of your 5 is a more egregious offense than your shit math. You mention Fisher as a maybe and leave out an obvious choice -- much like the President... Dungy may not be the most qualified but he's likable and "the first n|gger", so he's in. Book it.
This going the usual route for you...
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Fair enough about Dungy. Though he never particularly impressed me. How many Super Bowls do you think Shannarat, Cowher or Belicheat could have gotten out of Gomer Manning? I'm guessing more than one.ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:The fact that you left out Dungy (a stone cold lock) out of your 5 is a more egregious offense than your shit math. You mention Fisher as a maybe and leave out an obvious choice -- much like the President... Dungy may not be the most qualified but he's likable and "the first n|gger", so he's in. Book it.BSmack wrote:Because it brings out the nickpicking fuckwad in you. Perhaps I should have been more specific and said that Cowher had the best win % of the group of 5 coaches I had selected? Would that have been enough for you to turn off prick mode?
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BSmack wrote:Fair enough about Dungy. Though he never particularly impressed me. How many Super Bowls do you think Shannarat, Cowher or Belicheat could have gotten out of Gomer Manning? I'm guessing more than one.
He never impressed me either, but he won with two separate franchises, is well liked, black, and has a title. Two if you count the one "Gruden won with his guys"... or as I like to look at "won with his guys where Dungy couldn't."'
Who knows about the Manning angle. He was a certified choker, just like Dungy... until a few years ago. Perhaps just the one is all he'll ever be good for, no matter who was/is at the helm.
Re: Hall of Fame - yes or no
A few interesting ... NOT INs.
Anyone here going to make it in at some point?
Don Coryell: 111-83-1, 3-6 in playoffs
Tom Flores: 97-87, 8-3 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Jimmy Johnson: 80-64, 9-4 in playoffs, 2 NFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Chuck Knox: 186-147, 7-11 in playoffs
Bill Parcells: 172-130-1, 11-8 in playoffs, 2 NFC Championships, 1 AFC Championship, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Dan Reeves: 190-165, 11-9 in playoffs, 3 AFC Championships, 1 NFC Championship
Dick Vermeil: 120-109, 6-5 in playoffs, 2 NFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Parcells - yes
Anyone else?
Interesting that Marv Levy went in with his 4 Super Bowl losses and 143-112 record, but Dan Reeves isn't in.
Anyone here going to make it in at some point?
Don Coryell: 111-83-1, 3-6 in playoffs
Tom Flores: 97-87, 8-3 in playoffs, 2 AFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Jimmy Johnson: 80-64, 9-4 in playoffs, 2 NFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Chuck Knox: 186-147, 7-11 in playoffs
Bill Parcells: 172-130-1, 11-8 in playoffs, 2 NFC Championships, 1 AFC Championship, 2 Super Bowl Championships
Dan Reeves: 190-165, 11-9 in playoffs, 3 AFC Championships, 1 NFC Championship
Dick Vermeil: 120-109, 6-5 in playoffs, 2 NFC Championships, 1 Super Bowl Championship
Parcells - yes
Anyone else?
Interesting that Marv Levy went in with his 4 Super Bowl losses and 143-112 record, but Dan Reeves isn't in.
Re: Hall of Fame - yes or no
John Fox: No
Jon Gruden: No
Jeff Fisher: Nyah
Tony Dungy: Absolutely. If he was white, no fucking way.
Mike Tomlin: No
Bill Cowher: Unlikely
Brian Billick: No
Ken Whisenhunt: No
Mike Holmgren: Maybe. He quit being a genius when he left Fav-ray.
Mike Shanahan: Unlikely. He quit being a genius when Elway retired
Tom Coughlin: No
Andy Reid: Not a chance
Wade Phillips: No
Bill Belichick: Possibly.
Jon Gruden: No
Jeff Fisher: Nyah
Tony Dungy: Absolutely. If he was white, no fucking way.
Mike Tomlin: No
Bill Cowher: Unlikely
Brian Billick: No
Ken Whisenhunt: No
Mike Holmgren: Maybe. He quit being a genius when he left Fav-ray.
Mike Shanahan: Unlikely. He quit being a genius when Elway retired
Tom Coughlin: No
Andy Reid: Not a chance
Wade Phillips: No
Bill Belichick: Possibly.
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