ND fan survey (long)

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Killian wrote:The original point was that it was out of the realm of possibility for ND (or most any team) to go from 6 wins to 11 or 12.
No, it wasn't.

The original point was that it's far-fetched (those specific words) for ND to go from 6 wins to 12 wins. Far-fetched does not mean "out of the realm of possibility," it simply means it's unlikely to be true. You'll notice I already mentioned that those types of turnarounds DO happen occasionally (more like rarely), but it's because they happen so rarely that they're far-fetched to begin with.

When Alabama did it, that was absolutely an unlikely result. Yeah, it happened, but it was a far-fetched scenario beforehand. Nobody really saw it coming. But in fairness, that scenario wasn't quite as far-fetched seeing as Bama had/has an accomplished head coach. Saban won a title and had done some things in CFB prior to that turnaround. It's a bit more difficult to believe Weis can do the same since he hasn't accomplished much of anything in CFB.
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Dammit, what, UT isn't in Austin either??

Somebody better put a stop to this shit. Half the cities in America, I only know about their existence because some BTPCF is supposed to reside there.

Take away the Michigan Wolverines and Ann Arbor isn't even Ulan Bator to me.

Auburn, Alabama?
South Bend, Indiana?
College Station, Texas?
Whereverthefuck, Pennsylvania?
Morgantown, West Virginny?
Corvallis, Oregon?
Pullman, Washington?
Norman, Oklahoma?
Lincoln, Nebraska?
Gainesville, Florida
Fayettefuckingville, Arkansas?


Jesus. I know my map better than 99% of Americans, and it's all because of BTPCF.

Quit pissing in my cornflakes.
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Holy cow, what a pathetic excuse for a schedule....


S05 NEVADA 3:30pm NBC (W)
S12 @ Michigan TBA (L)
S19 MICHIGAN ST. 3:30pm NBC (L)
S26 @ Purdue 8pm ABC/ESPN (W)
O03 WASHINGTON 3:30pm NBC (W)
O17 SOUTHERN CAL 3:30pm NBC (L)
O24 BOSTON COLLEGE 3:30pm NBC (W)
O31 Washington St. 7:30pm NBC(SA) (W)
N07 NAVY 2:30pm NBC (W)
N14 @ Pittsburgh TBA (L)
N21 CONNECTICUT 2:30pm NBC (W)
N28 @ Stanford 8pm ABC (W)

8-4. If the breaks go there way, I will give them the Michigan and/or Pitt games as well. Worst case scenario is 7-5. Probable scenario is 8-4 or 9-3. 10-2 if they get a lot of breaks.

They will go to the Gator Bowl most likely. That should be enough to at least temper the Weis haters. But I would have to think that 2010 better be at least a BCS VICTORY or I wouldn't be surprised if the Notre Dame boosters try and force him out of there.
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TheJON wrote: They will go to the Gator Bowl most likely. That should be enough to at least temper the Weis haters. But I would have to think that 2010 better be at least a BCS VICTORY or I wouldn't be surprised if the Notre Dame boosters try and force him out of there.
I can hear the Fortune 500 companies pulling up their roots and relocating to the wasteland of Iowa to employ brilliant, forward-thinking fuckkchips like Noj. Weis finally on the hot seat after a mediocre 09 season? Jon, you are just so fucking insightful. How do you do it?
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Screw_Michigan wrote:
TheJON wrote: They will go to the Gator Bowl most likely. That should be enough to at least temper the Weis haters. But I would have to think that 2010 better be at least a BCS VICTORY or I wouldn't be surprised if the Notre Dame boosters try and force him out of there.
I can hear the Fortune 500 companies pulling up their roots and relocating to the wasteland of Iowa to employ brilliant, forward-thinking fuckkchips like Noj. Weis finally on the hot seat after a mediocre 09 season? Jon, you are just so fucking insightful. How do you do it?
Learn. To. Read. Retard. Thanks.

I did not say anything about him "finally" being on the hot seat. He's been on the hot seat for a couple years. But I'm guessing he better win a BCS Bowl by next year or he's BOOM......outta here.
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Jon,

The only place I wold disagree would be with the UM/MSU games. UM will be starting a freshman QB and outside of Warren, haven't played well in thew secondary. I don't think UM will be ready to win this game. As foer MSU, they'll be starting a new QB and RB on the road for the first time. ND should not lose that game.

I don't think ND will make a run in 2010 because I think Tate and Clausen are gone if they have good years.
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TheJON wrote:S05 NEVADA 3:30pm NBC (W)
S12 @ Michigan TBA (L)
S19 MICHIGAN ST. 3:30pm NBC (L)
S26 @ Purdue 8pm ABC/ESPN (W)
O03 WASHINGTON 3:30pm NBC (W)
O17 SOUTHERN CAL 3:30pm NBC (L)
O24 BOSTON COLLEGE 3:30pm NBC (W)
O31 Washington St. 7:30pm NBC(SA) (W)
N07 NAVY 2:30pm NBC (W)
N14 @ Pittsburgh TBA (L)
N21 CONNECTICUT 2:30pm NBC (W)
N28 @ Stanford 8pm ABC (W)
That's exactly how I've got it as well.
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Left Seater wrote:Good discussion.

Sounds like you think USC, Navy, Pitt and Michigan are untouchable. I can see that. I don't know though with Stanford or another lower level west coast team you can have three Big East teams.

If they want to play so many Big East teams each year, why not join the conferece? (I know another discussion)


My strength of schedule numbers came from google. Should have gone with Sag.

With two service academies, Pitt, Stanford, and two big east teams each year, I don't think that schedule does ND any favors. Sure some years half of those schools will be decent, but in most years they start off working from behind. Even in years that those schools are better they are still working to overcome voter bias of those schools.
You'll note that I suggested dropping the annual matchup with Stanford in favor of a game rotating among various western schools including Stanford. Stanford would play one home-and-home vs. ND per decade under my suggestion. Of the other schools on my list, Cal, UCLA and even Arizona State are better most seasons than Stanford (or at least, than Stanford has been in recent years). Hawaii's a bit tougher to gauge, but they're only included to give ND a thirteenth game two seasons every decade.

The Big East rotating schools would include West Virginia. For that matter, Cincinnati, Louisville and USF all have shown flashes of brilliance at times, and Rutgers and UConn have been respectable in recent years. Syracuse has been the conference doormat recently, but they have enough tradition to turn things around under the right circumstances.

I never suggested that playing two service academies was mandatory or even desirable. I did say it should be the limit. I used an extra service academy only by way of illustration. For that matter, also by way of illustration, I'd like to see Swarbrick reverse White and schedule the home-and-home with Minnesota to include Minnesota's dedication game at its new stadium. I'd also like to see ND schedule neutral-site one-off games vs. both Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois (at Washington, D.C. and Chicago, respectively), given that both schools suffered a shooting on campus in the relatively recent past, with a portion of the proceeds going to a non-violence organization. Again, just some examples of what I'd like to see.

I'd also consider returning Michigan State and Purdue to annual status, if, and only if, the Big Ten gets rid of its September-only policy with respect to scheduling ND. But I think ND will need two available dates in September, not just one, to pull off something like this.
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