American Prophesy

[Johnny Bold]

“There Will Be a Sign in the Heavens — It is About to Be Born in This Nation”

http://realmsofglory.wordpress.com/


G_d is displeased

Chuck Youngbrandt prophesied that there would be a great New Madrid earthquake were waters of Lake Michigan would go north then come south wiping out Chicago and heading towards the Gulf of Mexico. He also prophesied that 37 days after the earthquake the Russians would nuke the US followed by land invasion by Russia/China/Japan and others 2 months after the nuking.

Chuck details a 3 year scenario where the first year there is a North Korea vs South Korea war, China vs. Taiwan war and Mideast war. In the third year he has the New Madrid earthquake and Russian nuking/invasion.

Thomas S. Gibson has WWIII starting by 2010. The next 3.5 years seem to be setting up to be disastrous for USA. Lindsey Williams has warned that the elite our going to financially collapse the American economy and dollar.

E.R. Lindsey prophesied that 3 signs would occur simultaneously before the great California earthquake where everything west of the San Andreas fault falls into the ocean causing world wide tsunamis. The signs are 1) the greatest Australian earthquake 2) Mediterranean volcano errupts causing tidal wave 3) minor earthquake in California where the walls of the city halls of LA and San Fran crack.

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G_d Is Forgiving

Kim Clement: There is a Treasure Chest About to Be Opened Up, and People Will Say, “It is Impossible”

Prophesied on April 4, 2009 in Seattle, Washington:

America is on the verge of a change, America is on the doorstep. A brand new door is about to open for this nation—a door we never expected. We are on the verge of something. People have not seen it. Men have cried, men have complained. But God said, “While they are complaining and while there is blindness in the Church and blindness from the people, I am already calling you, ‘Come up here, come up here, come up here to a higher place,’ and I will show you the things that will take place after this.”

“There Will Be a Sign in the Heavens — It is About to Be Born in This Nation”

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G-d Is love

The RESSURECTION Prophesy:

R – rescue – God is going to rescue His people
E – extreme measures – God will use extreme measures to keep and sustain you.

S – There will be signs in the heavens

U – Usher – God is sending His ministering spirits to usher in God’s provision.

R – recover and recovery – we will recover all that has been lost

R- Russia – keep a wary eye on Russia and her allies

E – Remember the earthquake dream

C – Candlestick

T – Time is quickly running out

I – Israel and Jerusalem are God’s timepieces

O – Overthrow – God will overthrow evil

N- Near His coming is nigh

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[Johnny Bold]

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[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Why do people waste their times enriching their lives and the lives of those they love and those around them when there are so many witches out there roaming free?

Burn the witches. Burn them with cleansing FIRE!!!!

[Felix]

“There Will Be a Sign in the Heavens — It is About to Be Born in This Nation”

I saw that guy the otherday

[Felix]

“There Will Be a Sign in the Heavens — It is About to Be Born in This Nation”

you've obviously never been to New York (the city so nice they named it twice)

can't swing a dead cat without hitting somebody carrying a sign saying the earth will end tomorrow, or the next day, or the next....tell me, why should I take anything the douchebag you quoted anymore seriously than the guy pushing the shopping cart screaming "the end is near"

Chuck Youngbrandt prophesied that there would be a great New Madrid earthquake were waters of Lake Michigan would go north then come south wiping out Chicago and heading towards the Gulf of Mexico. He also prophesied that 37 days after the earthquake the Russians would nuke the US followed by land invasion by Russia/China/Japan and others 2 months after the nuking.

seriously I spit coke on my monitor when I read that....

[Johnny Bold]

“There Will Be a Sign in the Heavens — It is About to Be Born in This Nation”

you've obviously never been to New York (the city so nice they named it twice)

can't swing a dead cat without hitting somebody carrying a sign saying the earth will end tomorrow, or the next day, or the next....tell me, why should I take anything the douchebag you quoted anymore seriously than the guy pushing the shopping cart screaming "the end is near"

By allowing - The Holy Spirit Of Truth - to do the discerning for you.
It's a gift dealio which Christ freely gives to his true believers.
It's like one of those - you need to be there thangs - to be fully appreciated.

So I've been told.

Anyhooch :
Oddly enough - my posts were being deleted to the point of my giving up all together on the very site of which I got those prophesy links from for pretty much saying the same thing - in a far more respectful manner.

I don't think anyone should take anything any human says concerning our Heavenly Father as though it were gospel - which is pretty much what Christ suggested in so many words, if I recall correctly.

By me - the beauty of prophesy is two fold.

I: It gives the true believer a heads up, something to look out for, if you will - if/when it hits, the believers faith is then strengthened.

2: It also gives the non-believer something to percolate on in the event that the G-d attributed prediction does indeed turn out to become a reality - therefore affording the heathen a heads up on contriving their excuses for why the predicted event was nothing more then coincidence, or some easily explained away scientific act of nature.

Win Win

[Felix]

I don't think anyone should take anything any human says concerning our Heavenly Father as though it were gospel - which is pretty much what Christ suggested in so many words, if I recall correctly.

so what you're saying here is that GOD wrote the bible?
you people obey the words of this book as if god wrote them himself, which of course he didn't....they were written by men...so really, aren't you pretty much kicking your own ass every time you quote a biblical passage?

[Johnny Bold]

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I met a man who lost his mind
in some lost place I had to find
follow me the wise man said
but he walked behind - Lenny C

[Felix]

Billy Idol rocks

[Tom In VA]

U – Usher – God is sending His ministering spirits to usher in God’s provision.

It's getting hot in here

[rozy]

Lord, please grant me back the 2 minutes I spent on this thread. Please.

[Johnny Bold]

Imho:

Prophecy is easy to ignore or to be made fun of up until it slaps one aside the head.

Same goes for prediction:

Such as:

There are men who were in the intelligence community who are now running for their lives because they have refused to take part in what will add up to the death of millions of Americans - Steven Quayle

:Shivers:

[Johnny Bold]

No intention to kill this forum for another 10 days - but just in case there are some who still wonder why G-d would show disfavor towards us - this email received just might help explain some of it.

ps...i realize it is dated, which only means that there are now more reasons needing to be added to our shat list.

Anywho - read it and weep.

This prayer was given in Kansas at the opening session of their Senate. When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is what they heard:

Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done.

We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values.

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.

We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.

We have killed our unborn and called it choice.

We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem..

We have abused power and called it politics.

We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.

We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and set us free.

Amen!

[Tom In VA]

No intention to kill this forum for another 10 days - but just in case there are some who still wonder why G-d would show disfavor towards us - this email received just might help explain some of it.

ps...i realize it is dated, which only means that there are now more reasons needing to be added to our shat list.

Anywho - read it and weep.

This prayer was given in Kansas at the opening session of their Senate. When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities, but this is what they heard:

Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done.

We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values.

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.

We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.

We have killed our unborn and called it choice.

We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem..

We have abused power and called it politics.

We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.

We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and set us free.

Amen!

What's this "we" shit ?


Sincerely,
The Amish
The Menonites
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[Johnny Bold]

Azusa Street Revival
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azusa_Street_Revival

Word - An even greater Revival is now due for America.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Azusa Street Revival
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azusa_Street_Revival

Word - An even greater Revival is now due for America.

I was wondering whether you are a delusional, dispensational, lunatic "charismatic" New-Age Christian...


I was right. Enjoy your snakes.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

BTW, if any real fundamentalist, scripture believing Christian feels like stepping in and dropping the hammer on toughlove, do it now.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

P.S.

I just called you out, Poptart.

[poptart]

No time now, Marty.

I'll reply Wednesday morning.


Thanks for the call out -- don't run me.

[Johnny Bold]

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Breath, Marty Red Face, breath - try saving some of that hate up for the next big revival.

With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible." —Matthew 19:26 ...

Anywho - The part where what appeared to be a golden flame making itself visible from inside the building, reaching upward through the roof well into the sky above, while the power of G-d was doing It's amazing healing thing - must of been one pretty darn terrific sight to behold.

Newspaper records of articles concerning the event - such as how concerned neighbors alerted what was then their fire dept, and how the firemen responding to what was reported to be a fire, were left standing in awe - must of turned a mess of heathen head.

[Dr_Phibes]

Well I predict that you will be banned for getting caught balls deep up some Labrador's backside in the cooking forum. Apparently when Mikey catches you, he'll think you're pushing a shopping buggy till he gets up close and puts his specs on.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Well I predict that you will be banned for getting caught balls deep up some Labrador's backside in the cooking forum.

Phibes 2:13

See? I can quote scripture too.


RRRRRRRRRAck!

[Mikey]

Nothing NSFW in my hizzouse.

[poptart]

Marty, I've commented before about Matthew 17:1-9

This Scripture was preceeded by Matthew 16, in which Peter is the first person to have the realization and make the confession that Jesus is the Christ.

The Christ.


Matthew 17:1-9
1: And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2: And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3: And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4: Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5: While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6: And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7: And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8: And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
9: And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.


Silly Peter started asking about building a tabernacle (giving worship) to Moses and Elias, as well as Jesus.

Moses is -- the law.
Elias is -- mysicism, "experience"
Jesus is -- The Christ

Who should be worshipped?

God removed Moses and Elias and said to look at ONLY Jesus, who is the Christ.

Because Moses (law) and Elias (mysticism, "experience") can't do what ONLY Jesus Christ can do.

What can Christ do that nothing else can do?


This ...

Adam and Eve left God and surely died -- in that day, such that two dead beings can only produce more death.

So what did God do?
Look up the Scriptures.

He gave the Genesis 3:15 promise -- the seed of the woman.
Seed of what?

Isaiah 7:14 -- the virgin shall give birth -- ahhh .. the seed of the woman, not a descendant of Adam and Eve -- Christ came from God's "seed"

Galatians 4:3-4 -- people are in bondage to satan, but the seed of the woman has come to free

Matthew 16:16 -- Jesus is that Christ

1John 3:8 -- Christ came to destroy the work of the devil



If someone is holding onto something other than Christ, they will undoubtedly face hardship.

[Felix]

If someone is holding onto something other than Christ, they will undoubtedly face hardship.

let me ask you a couple of honest questions here tart

don't you think it's just a little narcissistic and petty of the creator of the entire universe to demand that you worship and praise him otherwise he'll be forced to cast you into eternal torture?

second, does it make sense that the best solution the creator of the entire universe could come up with to eliminate "original sin" was to send his son/himself down to earth to be mercilessly tortured? Why couldn't he have just said "hey, lets let bygones be bygones"? After all, he's the creator of the entire universe, so he can pretty much make whatever rules he wants (notice I'm not asking you if it happened, I'm asking you how does any of this make sense).

and finally, do you really think that "living forever" would really be that great?

I'm sure the first million years would be a hoot, but after that ....eh I don't know.

and please, save the scriptural quotes and tell me your opinion in your own words

I've got to be honest, almost every religious (denominational and non-denominational) person I talk to, that believes in some sort of god, is literally begging for the world to end so they can reunited with their creator-frankly, it's just a tad unnerving

[Tom In VA]

I've got to be honest, almost every religious (denominational and non-denominational) person I talk to, that believes in some sort of god, is literally begging for the world to end so they can reunited with their creator-frankly, it's just a tad unnerving

C'mon now. Really ? You need to pose your questions to people other than the ones with whom you've been speaking.

Seriously man, you need some help, I have never met a professed non believer so obsessed with this stuff than you. I am honestly not saying that in a "smack tone" or way. From what I gather, you're a great guy, we disagree on a thing or two here and there, but I sense a man with compassion for his fellows, deep love for his family, a great sense of responsibility. I also sense a man who is so torn up in his mind over this that it has become an obsession. That's not healthy bro.

Just decide. Stick to your decision, until you have enough empirical data that satisfies you to take another decision. The way you have been in the years on this board talking about this really strike me as "HELP ME BELIEVE".

I can't.

You are not willing to believe, yet. And quite frankly, I've been up and down that road myself so many times, there is absolutely NOTHING anyone can say to me that would make me willing to NOT BELIEVE.

In all seriousness, Science Bless You dude. I hope you find what you're looking for, but I don't think it will be via message boards, texts, or anything other than within yourself.

[Felix]

Seriously man, you need some help, I have never met a professed non believer so obsessed with this stuff than you. I am honestly not saying that in a "smack tone" or way. From what I gather, you're a great guy, we disagree on a thing or two here and there, but I sense a man with compassion for his fellows, deep love for his family, a great sense of responsibility. I also sense a man who is so torn up in his mind over this that it has become an obsession. That's not healthy bro.

it's a hobby of mine bud, and posted in a theology forum....I'm not obsessed, I'm simply curious as to how someone that seems to be a reasonably intelligent individual can still believe in these bronze age mythologies and say it with a straight face.....a better question would be WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE

Just decide. Stick to your decision, until you have enough empirical data that satisfies you to take another decision. The way you have been in the years on this board talking about this really strike me as "HELP ME BELIEVE".

I made my decision a long time ago, but you need to know that....
1. it's not a decision that I came to lightly
2. it's not a decision that I made without careful consideration

I'm actually comforted in knowing that when I breathe my last breath, that's it, that's all there is.....it actually helps me to lead my life a little more fuller, because I know I've only got one shot and I'd better make the most of it that I can...

I can't.

too bad, if you could release yourself from the shackles of theistic beliefs, you'd look at the world in a much different way

You are not willing to believe, yet. And quite frankly, I've been up and down that road myself so many times, there is absolutely NOTHING anyone can say to me that would make me willing to NOT BELIEVE.

you've got this ass backwards bud, I don't NOT BELIEVE.....that presumes there's something to believe in

In all seriousness, Science Bless You dude. I hope you find what you're looking for, but I don't think it will be via message boards, texts, or anything other than within yourself.

I love the way you seemingly mock science, yet you owe your life to scientific discovery many times over.....the food you eat, your santiation system, the drugs we have to fight bacterias, etc. weren't given to us by god, but through the hard work of the scientific community

and to be honest bud, I'm not looking for anything....like I said, I'm more at peace with life and death now than at any time I was being taught that if I didn't believe what they told me to believe, I would be punished for eternity...and trust me when I tell you, I've experienced more death in a single year than any person should ever have to endure .....why is that god has to threaten and intimidate people, yet that's exactly what every religious belief proposes....do what we say, or god will punish you....

fuck that

[Tom In VA]

I wasn't mocking science. You don't believe in God so saying "God Bless You" seemed like it wouldn't convey my regards to you properly. You revere Science, so I said "Science".

I appreciate science for what it is. I'm not "shackled" by anything.

.....a better question would be WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE

Good question.



Enjoy yourself.

[ppanther]

a better question would be WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE

Why do you?

[Felix]

a better question would be WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE

Why do you?

because the poison of religion spurs so many of the biases and the bigotries we carry as a people....because we enact laws based on mythological beliefs

what reason can you give me, other that one based in religious intollerance, can you make for legislation against gay people getting married....

I use this just as one of many examples of where theistic beliefs cloud the judgement of otherwise rational people

[ppanther]

a better question would be WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE

Why do you?

because the poison of religion spurs so many of the biases and the bigotries we carry as a people....because we enact laws based on mythological beliefs

what reason can you give me, other that one based in religious intollerance, can you make for legislation against gay people getting married....

I use this just as one of many examples of where theistic beliefs cloud the judgement of otherwise rational people

So Felix, do you think it should be legal for brothers and sisters to marry each other? Fathers and daughters?

Before you get all freaked out and jump to any conclusions, I'm just wondering if you have any moral lines.

As for your previous questions regarding Christianity... do you simply forget that they're the same questions you've already asked ad nauseum?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Thanks Felix. Thanks for pushing toughlove out of the way of a perfect setup by me, just so you could perform another one of your regularly scheduled faceplants in the Theology Forum.

You take a beating from even the most withered shitbags on this board. It's almost unbelievable.
Props for batting 1.000.

[Tom In VA]

In all seriousness, Science Bless You dude. I hope you find what you're looking for, but I don't think it will be via message boards, texts, or anything other than within yourself.

I'm just here to mock your tardish belief in a stone age fairy tale.

Wouldn't it be the bronze age ?

[Felix]

So Felix, do you think it should be legal for brothers and sisters to marry each other? Fathers and daughters?

no, because we know from scientific study that interfamily breeding often times causes genetic defects....but hey, you've never spent much time in the south obviously...but if you go to your holy book, you'll find lots of stories about familial rape, animal sacrifice, slavery, genocide, etc., things we find absolutely abhorent in this day and age....

Before you get all freaked out and jump to any conclusions, I'm just wondering if you have any moral lines.

sure I have moral lines, but if you're going to hit me with the "where did your morality come from" religious spiel, I've answered the question before....morality is inate in all animals....why is that prides of lions, and schools of pirannhas don't rip each other to pieces? Where do they get these animals get their "morality" from?....I don't know how many times I've heard the expression "they're acting like animals" to describe say a group of rioters....but I'd challenge you to present me with an example where groups of the same animals behave in a manner like that.....all animals (and yes, people are animals-apes to be exact) as a collective working together are better suited to survival than those that don't work for the betterment of the society-that's what the definition of "survival of the fittest" means, it has nothing to do with who's the biggest or the baddest, it's who works best in unison....it's an inherent genetic trait passed down from the time we came out of the trees.....animals often time interbreed (and if you need an example, look up Cheetah's and read about them), would you call them "immoral"....there are animals that engage in homosexual behavior-would you call them "immoral"

As for your previous questions regarding Christianity... do you simply forget that they're the same questions you've already asked ad nauseum?

no I haven't asked them ad nauseam, I've simply asked for a christian, any christian, to explain to me why the best solution the creator of the entire universe could come up with for the whole "original sin" debacle is the one described in the bible....I guess I ask it again, because nobody has ever provided any type of coherent/rational answer

and no, simply saying "because that's what god decided" is neither coherent or rational

[Felix]

just so you could perform another one of your regularly scheduled faceplants in the Theology Forum.

then by all means, point out the fallacies of the points I make and show me where I "faceplanted"

[ppanther]

no, because we know from scientific study that interfamily breeding often times causes genetic defects

Please try to stay on-topic, Felix.

So you're saying that you disapprove of a brother and sister marrying because they cannot produce healthy offspring? I'm really going to love it if you make this that easy.

and yes, people are animals

*gasp*

Felix, you are indeed a wise one.

there are animals that engage in homosexual behavior-would you call them "immoral"

Dumb question, especially considering your position re: innate morality and brother-sister unions.

no I haven't asked them ad nauseam

Yes you have.

I guess I ask it again, because nobody has ever provided any type of coherent/rational answer

Well, at least you admit you have asked more than once.

You're looking for an answer you like, it has nothing to do with "coherent" or "rational". There's absolutely no point in answering your questions.

[Felix]

Please try to stay on-topic, Felix.

I'm not sure how my response strays from the question you asked....but if you're under the impression that there aren't groups of people that interbreed, you're seriously mistaken.....so I guess you'd call these people immoral, but for them, it's a way of life.....

So you're saying that you disapprove of a brother and sister marrying because they cannot produce healthy offspring? I'm really going to love it if you make this that easy

no, I don't "disapprove" of brothers and sisters marrying...I find it kind of revolting, but it's not my place to judge (but I guess it's your's).....but society has placed a taboo on that, but to be honest, I'm not sure where it came from....certainly not the Bible if that's what you're getting at, because again, I can point you to stories in the bible where god encouraged fathers to rape their daughters.....

Dumb question, especially considering your position re: innate morality and brother-sister unions.

it's not a dumb question......you seem to be saying that animals that engage in homosexual behavior do so are doing it because they have no "morals", yet I point out the fact to you that animals display traits that you consider to be "moral"....eg, lions not killing each other, pirannahas not ripping each other to shreds....or are you saying these are "instinctual" behaviors? If you are, maybe you could differentiate between "moral" behavior and "instinctual" behavior

Well, at least you admit you have asked more than once.

You're looking for an answer you like, it has nothing to do with "coherent" or "rational". There's absolutely no point in answering your questions.

great non-response to a direct question....I'm not looking for an answer I like, I'm looking for an answer that makes any kind of sense....but I'll give you big props on your sidestepping the question

and you have the temerity to accuse me of avoiding issues

[ppanther]

no, I don't "disapprove" of brothers and sisters marrying

no, because we know from scientific study that interfamily breeding often times causes genetic defects

Pardon my confusion, but could you please clarify your position? Two posts, two different answers... Great start!

I find it kind of revolting, but it's not my place to judge

OK, hang on one second. Do you find the practice revolting, or are you choosing not to judge it? Could you maybe try to come up with just one answer per question?

but society has placed a taboo on that, but to be honest, I'm not sure where it came from

Your reason was the lack of ability to produce healthy offspring. But you've kind of strayed from that. Apparently you became aware of the corner into which you were painting yourself.

it's not a dumb question......you seem to be saying that animals that engage in homosexual behavior do so are doing it because they have no "morals", yet I point out the fact to you that animals display traits that you consider to be "moral"....eg, lions not killing each other

Um... Felix... I'm sorry, but you're going to have to do a little more research on lions. They aren't quite as morally righteous as you would like to believe. That is unless you think it's totally cool for one male to kill another for encroaching on its territory. LOTS of animals engage in killing members of their own species. LOTS of animals inter-breed, which is not in the best interest of their species/family. This is what happens when you stray from the topic, Felix... in the process of failing to make a point, you invariably make yourself look incredibly ignorant.

great non-response to a direct question

I already said I had no intention of answering your alleged "direct question".

I'm not looking for an answer I like, I'm looking for an answer that makes any kind of sense

As proven in the past, this is an absolute steaming pile of horse manure. But clearly your memory is not so great. Too bad for you, mine is sharp.

and you have the temerity to accuse me of avoiding issues

I asked if you thought brother-sister marriage should be legal. You said no, then you decided it wasn't your place to judge (immediately after judging, by the way). You can't answer a direct question to save your life.