Interesting...

[MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan]

Which one is Cody Hawkins?

[Harvdog]

Simple....B :D

[Shoalzie]

Which one of these guys is your offensive player of the year for a conference?

QB A: 1,657 yards, 17 TDs, 6 INTs, 62.4%
QB B: 1,977 yards, 15 TDs, 8 INTs, 72.0%
QB C: 1,650 yards, 13 TDs, 7 INTs, 63.7%
QB D: 2,385 yards, 16 TDs, 7 INTs, 64.1%

I'll say B...and I looked at who it was and I'm good with that choice.

QB C has 1,690 yards...by the way.

There's a 5th guy from the Big XII having a big year...why no love?

2,365 yards, 20 TDs, 3 INTs, 60.9%

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

B

[JMak]

Not very interesting at all...

[Moby Dick]

A landry jones
B Colt McCoy
C Zac Robinson
D Todd Reesing.


it's McCoy all the way. Just wish OU had more dink and dunk passes in their playbook.

[Go Coogs']

These are the only QB stats that matter:

Comp / Att / Yards / % / TDs /
285 398 3293 71.6 25

[TheJON]

These are the only QB stats that matter:

Comp / Att / Yards / % / TDs /
285 398 3293 71.6 25

Stats = overrated. You could put a drunken fratboy in that system against those defenses and they'd put up similar numbers. If we're going by stats, how has the Taco Tech QB not won the Heisman every year of the last decade?

But then again, the real best player in CFB never wins the Heisman. It goes to the QB on that year's most popular team 9 times out of 10. Reason for that? They get all the hype (usually not worthy of it).

It really doesn't matter though, the media has completely ruined what once was a great award. It's not even a big accomplishment anymore. The Heisman is dead. Sorry, but that's true. Blame ESPN, not me.

[indyfrisco]

There's a 5th guy from the Big XII having a big year...why no love?

2,365 yards, 20 TDs, 3 INTs, 60.9%

Because he's 5-3. He went like 427 or so attempts without an INT and then had 3 against KSU. He's only thrown an INT in 1 game. ANd he doesn't just dink and dunk. He goes downfield. His %age sucks donkey balls though. Probably because he goes downfield and doesn't just throw 5 yard passes like McCoy.

Or...because he's black and they're RACIST!

[TheJON]

Because he's 5-3.

He's 5-3?? If he's going 1 on 22 and has a 5-3 record, give that mother fucker the Heisman and draft him #1!

[Go Coogs']

You could put a drunken fratboy in that system against those defenses and they'd put up similar numbers.

You truly are a dumbass, JON.

If that were the case, then why isn't there another QB who is even close to Keenum's numbers in C-USA, given your reasoning?

Why? Maybe because Case Keenum is actually better than most QBs in the nation.

First in TD tosses, 3rd in completions percentage, first in yards. Not only that, but he has 3 rushing TDs on top of that.

You don't become a legit Heisman candidate because of a "system". It helps, but there are plenty of DI colleges out there that run a similar system and aren't having nearly the success Case Keenum is having.

[indyfrisco]

Put down the Cougar High Kool-Aid, Rumps. Other QBs in the nation don't have his numbers because they don't play in a shit conference. taco tceh QBs have put up his numbers. Name one who made it to the next level and started a game.

Enjoy your inflated ranking. Enjoy a decent bowl game (if there is one for you?) and enjoy going back to the old Cougar High very soon.

[Go Coogs']

Other QBs in the nation don't have his numbers because they don't play in a shit conference.

I get that, but you don't become one of the most potent passing attacks in the nation because you play shit teams. He's done it against BCS schools as well. Jon was saying you can put ANYone in that system and they would put up the numbers Case is putting up. That is total bullshit.

[indyfrisco]

I agree you can't put anyone in a typical spread offense and expect success. But saying he's a top QB in the nation for dinking and dunking is asinine. Colt McCoy does pretty much just that. What sucks for him is it has hurt his stock. He CAN go downfield, but Davis sticks to the dink and dunk.

[Van]

Heisman candidate QBs from popgun offenses playing in popgun conferences really don't matter much. Their stats are wildly inflated, and strictly the result of the system, and the opposition.

Keenum is Colt Brennan all over the place. He's Graham Harrell, playing in a much weaker conference.

Heisman candidate QBs can absolutely be the product of a "system." Just look at practically every Florida and Miami QB, Brennan, Harrell, Tommy Frazier, Eric Crouch, Chase Daniel, Andre Ware...

That's all Keenum is. Stick him on S. Carolina and we'd all think he's the worst QB in the land.

[Go Coogs']

But saying he's a top QB in the nation for dinking and dunking is asinine.

Well, it depends on what your criteria is for a "top" QB in the nation. If we're talking pro prospects, then no, he is not a top QB. But if you're talking top QBs in the nation based on their play and the success of the team, then Case Keenum is one of the best QBs in the nation.

He is sole reason they won the So. Miss, Miss State, and Texas Tech games. He put the team on his back and won it. He plays in a dink and dunk system, but dude is a winner with it. He gives his team the best chance to win.

Houston isn't the #13 team in the nation without him.

[TheJON]

You don't become a legit Heisman candidate because of a "system".

Yes you do, actually. He's not putting up numbers any more special than Texas Tech QB's have been putting up the past decade.

Mark Ingram deserves a serious look at Bama. I know it's hard for a RB to win, but there are no QB's doing anything all that impressive this year.

McCoy doesn't deserve the Heisman. He's not even the best candidate on his own team- Jordan Shipley is. Granted, Shipley hasn't a prayer of even being invited to NY but that doesn't mean he isn't more worthy of the award than McCoy.

[indyfrisco]

Houston isn't the #13 team in the nation without him.

Nor without the other 21 guys on the field. Keenum would say the same thing.

Oh, nor with the 10 yards or less passing playbook, either.

A&M may play Cougar High in the Texas Bowl. I hope it happens.

[Van]

He is sole reason they won the So. Miss, Miss State, and Texas Tech games.

Nonsense. If the QB is running for his life, or flat on his back tasting his own assblood, it doesn't matter how good he is.

Any QB is only as effective as his O-line.

Besides, if the other team constantly scores even more points against some QB's defensive unit, we don't even hear about said QB.

[TheJON]

A&M may play Cougar High in the Texas Bowl. I hope it happens.

That will be a 5 hour game with 1,400 yards of offense and 120 points. I could actually simulate a realistic A&M-Cougar High game on NCAA Football 2010 if I had the game.

[indyfrisco]

Well, to be honest, A&M can actually pull a better than expected season. I think we win against Colorado and Baylor. That's 7-3. We have an outside shot at beating OU with all their injuries. I SAID OUTSIDE SHOT, OUFan. t.u...final game at home? Who knows?

If we end up 8-4, it'll be independence or insight, not the Texas Bowl. In any case, it's nice to think about bowling again. Next year I expect to contend for the XII title.

[TheJON]

Well, to be honest, A&M can actually pull a better than expected season. I think we win against Colorado and Baylor. That's 7-3. We have an outside shot at beating OU with all their injuries. I SAID OUTSIDE SHOT, OUFan. t.u...final game at home? Who knows?

If we end up 8-4, it'll be independence or insight, not the Texas Bowl. In any case, it's nice to think about bowling again. Next year I expect to contend for the XII title.

Yeah, Sherman's done a pretty good job so far. Baylor and Colorado are probable wins for the Aggies. So that's 7 and then you never know in a rivalry game, so maybe at home they pull an upset over Texas. Unlikely, but like I said, you never know.

Get to 7 or 8 wins and Sherman probably deserves Big-12 coach of the year. Unless ISU gets to 7 wins and then you'd have to give it to Paul Rhoads, though I give ISU a 1% chance of getting to 7 wins.

[Killian]

I'm shocked and saddened by the following stat line:

2,318 yards, 18 TDs, 2 INTs, 66.9%

[Van]

That's a rather prurient completion percentage.

[Killian]

That's a rather prurient completion percentage.

I'm harder over the 9-1 TD/INT ratio

[CintiBearcat92]

How about this stat line:

2,382 yds 24 TD 4 Int 66.8%

Not too shabby either.

[PrimeX]

McCoy doesn't deserve the Heisman. He's not even the best candidate on his own team- Jordan Shipley is. Granted, Shipley hasn't a prayer of even being invited to NY but that doesn't mean he isn't more worthy of the award than McCoy.

Agreed. Exactly what I was gonna post, but with more boners and wailing guitars.

[Moby Dick]

Texas will probably get run in the NC game, but if I had to vote - it'd be for McCoy.

the hell you smokin?


i really wish that Houston had taken care of bid'ness against UTEP. If i had a vote it'd be for KeenUM.

[King Crimson]

Texas will probably get run in the NC game, but if I had to vote - it'd be for McCoy.

no way. guy threw for 120 yards against Oklahoma.

Colt is a pity Brent Musberger fuck. the old fruit. and his ass isn't nearly as cute as Chris Simms.

[Dinsdale]

Other QBs in the nation don't have his numbers because they don't play in a shit conference.

How fucking DARE you insult C-USA?


Sin,
Wazzu

[campinfool]

The only thing that is helping Colt in the talk of the Heisman is he is a QB on a high profile undefeated team and he will likely graduate as the winniest QB in D1 history. Doesn't sound too shabby from afar, but he has been a disappointment in my eyes, especially after the way he carried the team last year. But all things considered, he still makes me moist

[Moby Dick]

But all things considered, he still makes me moist

dont let Shipley hear you say that.

thems are fightin' words.

[TheJON]

Texas will probably get run in the NC game, but if I had to vote - it'd be for McCoy.

no way. guy threw for 120 yards against Oklahoma.

Colt is a pity Brent Musberger fuck. the old fruit. and his ass isn't nearly as cute as Chris Simms.

Good god, I'm not sure what is more gay. That post or Brent Musberger's man-crush of Ken Dorsey back in 2002.

Can I get a ruling on this???

[Harvdog]

Texas will probably get run in the NC game, but if I had to vote - it'd be for McCoy.

no way. guy threw for 120 yards against Oklahoma.

Colt is a pity Brent Musberger fuck. the old fruit. and his ass isn't nearly as cute as Chris Simms.

Good god, I'm not sure what is more gay. That post or Brent Musberger's man-crush of Ken Dorsey back in 2002.

Can I get a ruling on this???

Yeah. You are a total idiot. Stick to Iowa football since you are the wikipedia of that.

[Danimal]

A landry jones
B Colt McCoy
C Zac Robinson
D Todd Reesing.


it's McCoy all the way. Just wish OU had more dink and dunk passes in their playbook.

You can have some of Neb's, I'm really afraid of seeing them Saturday. Against OU's D they have pick-six and no-gain written all over them.

[Go Coogs']

Keenum is Colt Brennan all over the place.

Shooting from the hip is not gonna help your already shit reputation, Van.

Breenan played NOBODY in 2007. They played Boise St. at home and that is it. Their OOC was UNLV, Northern Collorado, Charleston Southern, and a 4-9 Washington team. Hawaii didn't prove shit with Brennan at the helm.

Houston beat Taco Tech, Ok State, and Miss State. Two of which came on the road.

Keenum's combined stats in those games:

1235 yds passing, 9 TDs (1 rush), 4 INTs.

You're a fucking moron for comparing 2007 Hawaii with 2009 Houston.

Know what the fuck you're talking about before spouting off shit comparisons.

[Van]

Keenum is Colt Brennan all over the place.
He's a system QB putting up big numbers in a popgun offense, in a popgun conference. They throw on nearly every down, against horrible D's, and when the time comes to truly assess his worth - the NFL draft - he'll be an afterthought at best.

That's Colt Brennan, or Graham Harrell, only in a much worse conference.

Oh, and get it through your thick skull already: Mississippi St is HORRIBLE. That is not a quality win, not unless you're Houston, so quit throwing it out there as if it means anything. MSU's only wins have come against D1-AA Jackson St, awful Vandy, pathetic Middle Tennessee St and Ashley Judd.

[Go Coogs']

Mississippi St is HORRIBLE.

Yeah, this is the team who had LSU on the ropes and scared Florida deep into the game. What a horrible football program they are for nearly beating two top 10 programs.