Most overrated 'starter' on your favorite team?

Th · Post by Th » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:51 pm

Patriots - Lawrence Maroney

I've seen less dancing in a Beyonce video than Maroney does near the line of scrimmage. Plus: he's fragile. He misses an average of 4-5 games a year since he's been in the NFL. Thank GOD his rookie contact is coming to an end.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:43 pm

Th wrote:Patriots - Lawrence Maroney

I've seen less dancing in a Beyonce video than Maroney does near the line of scrimmage. Plus: he's fragile. He misses an average of 4-5 games a year since he's been in the NFL. Thank GOD his rookie contact is coming to an end.

4.2 yds per carry last game? If he would have had more carries, you might have had a W.

I'd have to say Hightower. He's a great 3rd down back, but they need to put Beanie Wells in on 1st and 2nd.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:46 pm

Shawne Merriman...I've seen more pushing in the mens room.

Merriman sans the roids and the fact his knee seems to be about 75% hasn't been a factor, and one of the big reasons the Charger Defense couldn't stop Torrey Pines High.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:00 pm

ChargerMike wrote:Shawne Merriman...

He's an absolute chocker.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:17 pm

If we really had anybody that was rated...... :doh:

I'd have to say Larry Johnson - Still can't block, no threat in passing game and has lost explosivness through the hole.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:24 pm

KC Scott wrote:If we really had anybody that was rated...... :doh:

I'd have to say Larry Johnson - Still can't block, no threat in passing game and has lost explosivness through the hole.

The jury's still out on Haley.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:20 pm

Diogenes wrote:
KC Scott wrote:If we really had anybody that was rated...... :doh:

I'd have to say Larry Johnson - Still can't block, no threat in passing game and has lost explosivness through the hole.
The jury's still out on Haley.

Haley doesn't play, dumbass. :doh:

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:35 pm

This post was made by Paul who is currently on your ignore list.

Rack.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:25 pm

Diogenes wrote:4.2 yds per carry last game? If he would have had more carries, you might have had a W.

Still holding on to your shit take, eh? He had one decent run of 10-11 yards and 4 other carries for like 10 yards. If he was any good, he'd be getting more carries you ignorant twat. For the year, he has 32 carries and 99 yards. For the love of Christ, please STFU about Maroney.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:31 pm

mvscal wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:his knee seems to be about 75%
So you're saying that he should be a factor despite the fact that he isn't anywhere near fully recovered from his knee injury?!? Huh?

Get a grip.

...no, not at all, what I said was: "sans the roids, and the fact his knee seems to be about 75%, he hasn't been a factor". No reference to expectations. Admittedly, my parsing of sentence structure is not on par with yours'.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:54 pm

"Personally I don't think he's very bright. "

...evidenced by his numerous braindead penalties (usually on 3rd. down).

trev · Post by **trev** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:16 pm

Cromartie hasn't been the same since Deion Sanders became his mentor.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:27 pm

mvscal wrote:The topic is overrated starter not ineffective due to injury starter.

My call would be Antonio Cromartie.

Jammer is some stiff competition here though.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:31 pm

mvscal wrote: Rodney Harrison was never replaced. That was a huge blunder.

Agree.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:33 pm

I guess I would say Kirk Morrison.

Decent linebacker -- average -- not great size, doesn't shed blockers that well, and sometimes takes bad angles or is flat out OUT of position.

Somehow came to be seen as "the heart" of the 'dud defense.

He lost me when he sent out this "tweet" a couple hrs after HIS 'dud defense was taken to school and beaten the fuck down by the Dungver Donkeys ...

~ Watching The Cleveland Show on Fox. Its pretty funny.
Entourage later. 2morrow back 2 the lab 2 correct our mistakes
& get ready 4 Houston.

F.U.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:39 am

mvscal wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
mvscal wrote:The topic is overrated starter not ineffective due to injury starter.

My call would be Antonio Cromartie.
Jammer is some stiff competition here though.
Not really. Jammer never lived up to his pre-draft hype as a sure fire 1st ballot hall of famer, but he's a solid pro.

Isn't he still predictable as hell? As soon as he gets beat on a coverage, throw anywhere in his general vicinity. Instant interference call.

I try to avoid Charger games lately. Mocking the locals used to be fun,but with the Cards ascendant and the Dolts being what they are, it just feels sad and cruel.

Except for here,of course.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:05 am

Dewayne White is useless as the Lions' primary edge rusher and I'd throw Peterson and Sims in the mix as overrated for their position. Foote has been very solid in the middle...no complaints with him.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:44 am

poptart wrote:I guess I would say Kirk Morrison.

~ Watching The Cleveland Show on Fox. Its pretty funny

A Corky actually made it to the Pros?

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:41 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:DeAngelo Hall. Can't say he's really overrated as I think he sucks dogshit through a straw, but pole smoker Vinny Cerrato had the balls to say Friday: "DeAngelo Hall's playing well, making plays." Obvious reasons why Cerrato is an all-in-all failure. Hall has a few picks this year, but they are basically "Here I am, the ball is coming right at me, I think I'll catch it" types of picks. Nothing where he steals a pass or cuts one off. Also, dude is deathly afraid of physical contact. Dude had the chance to stop Jake Delhomme Sunday four yards short of the first down marker late in the game and could have given the Skins a final few chances at taking the lead back. What does the pussy do? Tries to arm tackle Delhomme, Delhomme bowls him over, gets the first down. GAME OVER.

Don't forget his partner in suck Carlos "Never Met an INT He Couldn't Drop" Rogers.

But my nomination would be Laron Landry. Despite what he may think, he will never replace Sean Taylor. So stop fucking trying! Maybe try wrapping up on a tackle instead of launching your brainless corpse 3 yards from the ball carrier. He is still trying to make up for getting trucked by Jacobs last season.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:14 pm

This is as easy as it gets - Tony Romo

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:32 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Diogenes wrote:4.2 yds per carry last game? If he would have had more carries, you might have had a W.
Still holding on to your shit take, eh? He had one decent run of 10-11 yards and 4 other carries for like 10 yards. If he was any good, he'd be getting more carries you ignorant twat. For the year, he has 32 carries and 99 yards. For the love of Christ, please STFU about Maroney.

16 carries. 123 yards

7.69 yds/carry.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:56 pm

The only reason he's gettting more than 4-5 carries is that NE's 1st (Taylor) and 2nd (Morris) string backs are hurt. I wouldn't put too much stock in one game against a team that clearly gave up yesterday. He may pad his stats against Tampa in the next game as well. After all, they did give up over 250 yards on the ground yesterday to CAR. Let's see what he does in the 4 games after that (Miami, Indy, NYJ, NO) against teams who actually have won games this year. Look for Green-Ellis (4th string guy) to get more carries than Maroney during that tough stretch.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:04 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:The only reason he's gettting more than 4-5 carries is that NE's 1st (Taylor) and 2nd (Morris) string backs are hurt.

That was kind of my point. If you give this guy the ball, he will produce. If Billacek is that down on him, I hope they trade him to a team that will use him.

If Beanie turns out to be a flop in the desert, I'd take Maroney and a couple of draft picks for Leinert.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:14 pm

Diogenes wrote:That was kind of my point. If you give this guy the ball, he will produce.

He's been given numerous chances over the last two years and categorically has not produced. That's why Taylor was brought in and that's why was riding the pine even after Taylor got hurt. Now that Morris is out... he'll get yet another chance to fail. Either way... you can have Maroney for free after this year when NE cuts him. Good luck with that.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:16 pm

Dunte Robinson

The Texans made him an offer that guaranteed him in the neighborhood of $20 million. He wanted Chris Gamble money, but the Texans weren't biting. Instead, they franchise him for the season which gave him $10 million for the one year. He sits out of camp, then shows up not ready to play against the Jets and proceeds to write, "Pay Me, Rick" on his shoes.

He forgot how to tackle in the Tennessee and Jacksonville games and didn't really start to play until week 4 against Oakland.

He is averaging the top 5 CBs salary this season and is an average cover corner with good open field tackling ability. Fuck him. I definitely don't see this guy getting an extension out of us unless his coverage skills start to pick up over the last 10 games of the season.

Bring in Glover Quinn.

Th · Post by Th » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:57 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Diogenes wrote:That was kind of my point. If you give this guy the ball, he will produce.
He's been given numerous chances over the last two years and categorically has not produced. That's why Taylor was brought in and that's why was riding the pine even after Taylor got hurt. Now that Morris is out... he'll get yet another chance to fail. Either way... you can have Maroney for free after this year when NE cuts him. Good luck with that.

Cut him? I'm pretty sure he's in the last year of his rookie contract, right? Anyway - I bet that the Titans are sorry that they let Haynesworth go after seeing Maroney have a 'career' day against them. I'm still in the mindset that Maroney isn't a first line RB in the NFL & likely won't be anytime either. Time for BB to spend one of his early draft picks on a quality RB rather than trading the pick for a bunch of mid rounders for the following year.

Th · Post by Th » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:07 pm

mvscal wrote:
Th wrote:Time for BB to spend one of his early draft picks on a quality RB
What the fuck would he do that for? If he's smart (and he is), the pick/s would be better spent shoring up the D line and secondary. The Patriots are a pass first team. As long as they have Brady, Moss and Welker, they will never need anything more than a "decent" running back and those guys are a dime a dozen.

Yeah, that 'pass first' offense worked well in the Superbowl against the Giants, didn't it? Point being, even BB likely would like to balance out the offense if he could.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:00 pm

Th wrote:
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:He's been given numerous chances over the last two years and categorically has not produced. That's why Taylor was brought in and that's why was riding the pine even after Taylor got hurt. Now that Morris is out... he'll get yet another chance to fail. Either way... you can have Maroney for free after this year when NE cuts him. Good luck with that.

Cut him? I'm pretty sure he's in the last year of his rookie contract, right?

Yes, cut him. He's signed though 2011.

Feel free to know what the fuck you're talking about next time. Or not.

Th wrote:Time for BB to spend one of his early draft picks on a quality RB rather than trading the pick for a bunch of mid rounders for the following year.

You mean, spending a 1st Rd pick on a RB like they did with Moroney at #21? Moroney was the 2nd RB taken in that draft ahead of guys like Maurice Jones Drew, Joseph Adai, and DeAngelo Williams.

Th · Post by Th » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:57 am

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Th wrote:
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:He's been given numerous chances over the last two years and categorically has not produced. That's why Taylor was brought in and that's why was riding the pine even after Taylor got hurt. Now that Morris is out... he'll get yet another chance to fail. Either way... you can have Maroney for free after this year when NE cuts him. Good luck with that.

Cut him? I'm pretty sure he's in the last year of his rookie contract, right?
Yes, cut him. He's signed though 2011.

Feel free to know what the fuck you're talking about next time. Or not.

Th wrote:Time for BB to spend one of his early draft picks on a quality RB rather than trading the pick for a bunch of mid rounders for the following year.
You mean, spending a 1st Rd pick on a RB like they did with Moroney at #21? Moroney was the 2nd RB taken in that draft ahead of guys like Maurice Jones Drew, Joseph Adai, and DeAngelo Williams.

2011? Damn - that's awful for the Pats - He sucks. So, you are saying Maroney is WORTH the money he's getting then?

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:42 pm

Th wrote:So, you are saying Maroney is WORTH the money he's getting then?

No. I am countering your point that spending a 1st Rd pick on a RB will guarantee he's going to be worth two shits.

See also; Laurence Moroney. Just how stupid are you... exactly?

Th · Post by Th » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:05 am

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Th wrote:So, you are saying Maroney is WORTH the money he's getting then?
No. I am countering your point that spending a 1st Rd pick on a RB will guarantee he's going to be worth two shits.

See also; Laurence Moroney. Just how stupid are you... exactly?

Smart enought to be right about MORONey & have you dancing on a string about it - ankle biter.

Anyway, Pats looked good today - on to the bye week.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:25 pm

Th wrote:Smart enought to be right about MORONey & have you dancing on a string about it - ankle biter.

Is that what you call it when I produce informed takes and you produce shit that a pink-hat wearing "fan" would be embarrassed to post?

You were wrong about Moroney, dumbfuck. He's not in the last year of his contract.

As far as you being "right" about his lack of talent, well... no shit. I am quite sure Neely, myself, and numerous other Patriots fans have said the same thing in at least 25 posts since 2007. You are far from being the first person to offer up this "amazing insight."

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:13 pm

If there an organization that is in the same mold as PETA but for the protection of worms? They should be all over McNabb for the amount of fish bait he killed last night. Throw after throw,pounding the grass, smashing worms to bits. And did you notice the smile on his face after he does it? The man ENJOYS killing worms! Who cares about Vick and the dogs he killed, I'm outraged at McNabbs continual cruelty to worms. Am I supposed to forgive him because this a cultural thing?

I'm outraged. This madness has to stop.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:44 pm

Shameless bump based on another pathetic game from McNabb last night.

After 11 years in the league:
-Still throwing behind or high to receivers running open across the middle.
-Still throwing the ball to the receivers' feet on a comeback route.
-Still unable to complete a 4th quarter comeback.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:49 pm

Racist.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:46 pm

you can have Maroney for free after this year when NE cuts him.

Last 4 games...

Rush 54
Yds 269
Y/G 67.3
Avg 5.0
TD 3

He may be the most underrated by his own team's fans.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:20 pm

He's still getting cut. You're still a Cosmo drinking faggot who's totally fucking clueless. The bulk of those stats came in a 59-0 blowout against a team who'd clearly given up.

godzilla2002 · Post by **godzilla2002** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:22 pm

Th wrote:Most overrated 'starter' on your favorite team?

ALL OF EM!!!

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:13 pm

ucantsmokepoleshitforbrainsSTyle2 wrote:The bulk of those stats came in a 59-0 blowout against a team who'd clearly given up.

You're still a fucking idiot.

Week 9 (MIA) Rush-20 Yds-82 Avg-4.1 TD-1
Week 7 (@TAM) Rush-13 Yds-43 Avg-3.3 TD-1
Week 6 (TEN) Rush-16 Yds-123 Avg-7.7 TD-1
Week 5 (@DEN) Rush-5 Yds-21 Avg-4.2 TD-0

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:31 pm

Diogenes wrote:
ucantsmokepoleshitforbrainsSTyle2 wrote:The bulk of those stats came in a 59-0 blowout against a team who'd clearly given up.
You're still a fucking idiot.

Week 9 (MIA) Rush-20 Yds-82 Avg-4.1 TD-1
Week 7 (@TAM) Rush-13 Yds-43 Avg-3.3 TD-1
Week 6 (TEN) Rush-16 Yds-123 Avg-7.7 TD-1
Week 5 (@DEN) Rush-5 Yds-21 Avg-4.2 TD-0

Are you seriously going to sit there and say 49 YPG and 3.8 YPC is... good? That's what's left when you take away the blowout. Why do you hate math and logic so much? If I want your take on Cosmos, I'll ask for it. Otherwise, do yourself a favor and STFU.