How the Hell Does Mississippi State...

[Degenerate]

Their stadium record is something like 57,000.

OTOH, they have one of the nicest fields and most elaborate drainage systems of any stadium. I guess that's what you get when turf sciences are a major draw to your ag school.

[Van]

How the hell does Mississippi State...manage to be allowed to stay in the SEC?

They're just another Southern Miss, only with an ersatz SEC label.

[Van]

Vandy's your conference's academic flagbearer, and IIRC, its private school, which you need for financial reasons. They do way more for the conference than MSU.

WSU's won the Pac 10 this decade. Been to Rose Bowls and everything.

What's MSU ever done? They've not won the SEC in your lifetime, and they've been dead last in the West just about every year, and they suck at basketball too.

What do they bring to the conference at all, besides schedule padding for the other teams?

[Van]

Okay, so twenty some years ago they were decent in baseball? That's enough to keep them around for football?

[Dinsdale]

...have the second biggest on-campus video board in college football?!?!

Because Autzen hasn't upgraded theirs in the last couple of years.

[Van]

WSU would have played in a Pac 10 CCG, multiple times. MSU has played in the SEC CCG...never.

MSU needs to be in the Sun Belt, where they belong.

[Van]

Who cares? If they were to play a few years ago, WSU destroys them. The bottom line is WSU has on occasion brought something to the Pac 10. MSU has never brought anything to the SEC. They're never any good in any of the major $$ sports, and they're a state school from the dumbest state in the Union. They bring nothing to the SEC. Nothing. Not this year, or any year.

[Degenerate]

WSU would have played in a Pac 10 CCG, multiple times. MSU has played in the SEC CCG...never.

They did once, in 1998. Lost to the Tennessee team that beat FSU in the Fiesta to win the first BCS title game.

Jackie Sherill was tapping the Kansas/Mississippi juco pipeline for a while. That's the only way to win at MSU. That, and playing fast and loose with the rules, as MSU was put on probation when Sherrill left in 2003.

[Van]

Ah, okay, thanks for the correction, D.

So, one CCG appearance, and no SEC titles during the lifetime of anyone here not named Wolfman. They're no good in hoops either, so they bring no real revenue to the conference, and they're by no means an academic stalwart.

Mississippi St exists in the SEC for the same reason the Washington Generals exist.

[H4ever]

Vandy's your conference's academic flagbearer, and IIRC, its private school, which you need for financial reasons. They do way more for the conference than MSU.

WSU's won the Pac 10 this decade. Been to Rose Bowls and everything.

What's MSU ever done? They've not won the SEC in your lifetime, and they've been dead last in the West just about every year, and they suck at basketball too.

What do they bring to the conference at all, besides schedule padding for the other teams?

Let's go ahead and throw Baylor on that list. Though they do have a decent baseball team from time to time. Trade them for Arkansas, or hell TCU for that matter, in a heartbeat.

[TenTallBen]

They're no good in hoops either,.

Really?

NCAA Tourney Appearances....
1963 Sweet 16
1991 First Round
1995 Sweet 16
1996 Final 4
2002 Second Round
2003 First Round
2004 Second Round
2005 Second Round
2008 Second Round
2009 First Round

Somewhat consistently making the field of 65 this decade makes you no good?

[TenTallBen]

Oh and the reason their scoreboard screen is so big is because they actually have room for it. Big time programs put seats in places like that.

[H4ever]

So Miss St is the Ruby Tuesdays of the SEC?

I don't get it?

[Terry in Crapchester]

Vandy's your conference's academic flagbearer, and IIRC, its private school, which you need for financial reasons. They do way more for the conference than MSU.

WSU's won the Pac 10 this decade. Been to Rose Bowls and everything.

What's MSU ever done? They've not won the SEC in your lifetime, and they've been dead last in the West just about every year, and they suck at basketball too.

What do they bring to the conference at all, besides schedule padding for the other teams?

Let's go ahead and throw Baylor on that list. Though they do have a decent baseball team from time to time. Trade them for Arkansas, or hell TCU for that matter, in a heartbeat.

Baylor is the Big XII's token private school, so Baylor-for-Arkansas makes no sense. Baylor-for-TCU, on the other hand, does make sense.