A Highly Civilized People...

[Mikey]

Sorcery Charges On The Rise In Saudi Arabia

Lebanese man who hosted a popular TV show where he gave callers advice and sometimes predicted the future was sentenced to death by a court in Saudi Arabia last month. His charge? Sorcery.

Ali Hussain Sibat's popular call-in show was broadcast on a satellite TV channel in Arabic around the Middle East from Beirut. In May 2008, Sibat traveled to Saudi Arabia on a pilgrimage to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina. His lawyer, May al-Khansa, says Saudi religious police recognized Sibat from his TV work and arrested him.

"They took him to prison," Khansa says, "and after that they took him to the court many times, asking him, you have to say that you have done something against religion, and after that we will release you and take you to your country."

Not An Isolated Case

Human rights groups say such cases are on the rise in the strictly religious country. Saudi officials have arrested Saudis and non-Saudis, Muslims and non-Muslims on sorcery charges.

In recent months, a Saudi man was arrested for smuggling a book about witchcraft into the country. An Asian man was accused of using his powers to solve marital disputes. And a third man was given a death sentence for trying to learn magic.

In 2007, Saudi authorities executed an Egyptian pharmacist for sorcery.

Interrogation On TV

Sibat confessed to Saudi authorities that he consulted spirits to predict the future. But the authorities didn't release him. Instead, they brought him to a TV studio and told him to confess again. The conversation was broadcast on a Saudi program about religion.

"How do you rate yourself among magicians?" an interviewer asked Sibat.

"What?" said Sibat, clearly nervous. "I have failed. I confess in front of God."

Sibat was then tried in court, and the confession was used against him. He was sentenced to death on Nov. 9. Saudi justice officials would not respond to several requests for comment about his case.

Sarah Leah Whitson, the Middle East director at New York-based Human Rights Watch, says the problem is that Saudi Arabia has no specific law governing such crimes.

Instead, judges view people who believe in the supernatural as heretics and often sentence them according to the judges' own personal training in Sharia, or Islamic law. Whitson says this means anyone could be targeted.

"You will never know on any given day whether the book you are reading or the words you are saying are going to be interpreted or used against you deliberately as a form of witchcraft," Whitson says.

Belief In Genies

Belief in genies, or jinn, as they're called in Arabic, is quite common in Saudi Arabia. But the strict form of Islam practiced in Saudi Arabia forbids people from worshiping anyone other than God.

The religious police headquarters in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, has an entire department devoted to combating sorcery and witchcraft and regularly distributes pamphlets and DVDs. In one DVD, which is set to religious music, police search people's homes for signs that they practice witchcraft.

Saudi political analyst Tawfiq al-Saif says religious authorities truly believe they are helping society by discouraging faith in the supernatural.

But, he says, there is also a political reason for the recent rise in sorcery cases.

In the past few years, the government has tried to curb the influence of the religious establishment by sacking key religious figures, pushing for reform in the courts and criticizing the religious police.

"One time, I met the head of the Hey'a [the religious police] and he was really sorry because in the past he was saying that they were free to do whatever they like to enforce the Sharia laws — even, he said, in the public buses, in the train, in the airports," Saif says.

But now that they are under pressure, the religious police are trying to flex their muscles in the few ways they still can, including looking for people who practice magic or who don't pray five times a day, and for women who don't properly cover their hair, Saif says.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... t=1&f=1001

[Diogenes]

I blame Cheney.


And Glenn Beck, of course.

[Q, West Coast Style]

Such a faith-based society could use a few more "libtards."

[Mikey]

Ali Hussain Sibat

He turned me into a newt.

When are you going to get better?

[LTS TRN 2]

Problem is, these same lunatic religious nuts are getting millions of votes right here in America!

[Diogenes]

Problem is, these same lunatic religious nuts are getting millions of votes right here in America!

Leave Jeremiah Wright out of this.

[SunCoastSooner]

I think we should consult this guy...

[SunCoastSooner]

I think we should consult this guy...

Oh Jeezus! My father-in-law's favorite "preacher"!

My ex-wife had a run in with him a few years ago.. I'm not going to recount the story again for everyone, you can find it on the politics or theology board, can't remember which, by just searching his name. He is a true to life piece of shit and by no means should be considered a man of G-d. Probably a good thing I wasn't there for their encounter because I would have gone to prison most likely after beating the piss out of him.

[Cuda]

I think we should consult this guy...

What the fuck does Denny Hastert have to do with this?

BTW, if he hasn't died already, I want him in the 2010 Death Pool

[SunCoastSooner]

I think we should consult this guy...

What the fuck does Denny Hastert have to do with this?

BTW, if he hasn't died already, I want him in the 2010 Death Pool

That isn't Hastert... John Hagee, TV evangelist on Television out of San Antonio.

[Cuda]

Oh.

I'll take him in the 2010 death pool too

[LTS TRN 2]

Thomas Muthee is exactly like Hagee. Both want to literally kill "witches"--which basically means "earth worshippers," etc

I think we should consult this guy...

What the fuck does Denny Hastert have to do with this?

BTW, if he hasn't died already, I want him in the 2010 Death Pool

That isn't Hastert... John Hagee, TV evangelist on Television out of San Antonio.

Suffice to say, both of these shit stains are very uncomfortable with the new Avatar movie :wink:

Benjamin Netanyahu on Christians who are pro Israel ~ "My opinion of Christian Zionists? They're scum. But don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now."

[The Seer]

Benjamin Netanyahu on Christians who are pro Israel ~ "My opinion of Christian Zionists? They're scum. But don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now."

For SOME reason, you neglected to mention the source of your (quote)....

[SunCoastSooner]

Benjamin Netanyahu on Christians who are pro Israel ~ "My opinion of Christian Zionists? They're scum. But don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now."

For SOME reason, you neglected to mention the source of your (quote)....

Yeah I noticed that as well when I googled it... does that really shock anyone at all though?

[Diogenes]

Nicky's riding the Stormfront?

How not surprising.

[LTS TRN 2]

Shouldn't you be more concerned with millions of stupid cowardly cowed American voters actually pulling the lever for Palin just last year? Where are your priorities? The plain facts of the Christers' mewling obeisance to the vile apartheid state need no further documentation.

Wakey Wake

[LTS TRN 2]

Back off, Rusp Monkey, I've never once endorsed Barry. Plainly, we as a people, a hobbling but functioning modern society, had no choice given the option. Or what?

Are you actually suggesting that McBush (aka Dead Man Barely Walking) and...fucking Palin were--or could ever be--an plausible alternative to...?...oh, a steaming pile of dog shit?

Well, we did apparently elect this utterly criminal moronic lunatic twice..


GH isn't a moron, but certainly a heinous criminal, etc...

[JMak]

Off this shit LTS troll...

[The Seer]

Off this shit LTS troll...

The fact that loser is continually able to spew lies as facts suprises no one....that he is allowed to continually do so does say something about the admins here though.

[Diogenes]

Shouldn't you be more concerned with millions of stupid cowardly cowed American voters actually pulling the lever for Palin just last year?

Not really. I'm a bit more concerned with the millions of pathetically stupid morons who pulled the lever for the fascist n...igger from Illinois.

Which was exactly what you were endorsing and hoping for.

You moronic unAmerican POS.

BTW, calling Your Boy in the White House fascist is insulting. To real fascists.

Aside from all his ideological inanities, Mussolini actually cared about Italy.