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So I got season tix to the Colts on the 40 yard line 9 rows up on the visiting side. I can't see this a lot at other stadiums but I see it a lot here. Many a team comes in and hates the Cots no huddle so there are a lot of fake injuries to slow the offense down. Guy will stay on the field for a few minutes as if he is hurt, and then as soon as he gets to the sideline, I see him laughing and is back in one play later. Jacksonville is the worst at this.

So, my rule change would be anyone whose injury calls for a delay in the game (meaning play clock stoppage) should sit 5 plays minimum. Not only would this support the bullshit of fake injuries, but if someone gets banged a bit, it gives them a guaranteed bit of time to look that player over rather than forcing them back on the field.

If you disagree, give good reasons why. I think this takes a lot of bullshit out of the game.
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Fuck the Colts. Any rule that hinders them is a good rule. Keep it the way it is.
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When is the rule against pumping in crowd noise going into effect??
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Neely8 wrote:When is the rule against pumping in crowd noise going into effect??
Or the rule against throwing games.
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mvscal wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:If you disagree, give good reasons why. I think this takes a lot of bullshit out of the game.
That action is already penalized. In the final two minutes of a half or the game it costs them a timeout. If they don't have a time out, I believe it is a delay of game penalty and/or they run time off the clock.
Yeah, I know about the final two minutes but I am talking about the rest of a game. The no huddle offense is hard to defend, especially when it is clicking on all cylinders. Faking injury so your defense can catch its breath and/or change personnel at any point in the game should be penalized. And by that, I don't mean marking off yards, but if your injury, fake or not, causes a game stoppage, I don't think it is over the line to say you have to sit a few plays minimum.
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IndyFrisco wrote:Yeah, I know about the final two minutes but I am talking about the rest of a game. The no huddle offense is hard to defend, especially when it is clicking on all cylinders. Faking injury so your defense can catch its breath and/or change personnel at any point in the game should be penalized. And by that, I don't mean marking off yards, but if your injury, fake or not, causes a game stoppage, I don't think it is over the line to say you have to sit a few plays minimum.
What the fuck do you care? I thought you were a Titans fan. Now you care what happens to the Colts no-huddle offense? I think it's already significant enough to miss a play. Besides, what happens to your Colts when say Reggie Wayne or, heaven forbid, Bubblehead Manning has to sit for 5 plays because of a minor injury during an important drive?
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BSmack wrote:Fuck the Colts. Any rule that hinders them is a good rule. Keep it the way it is.
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BSmack wrote:What the fuck do you care? I thought you were a Titans fan. Now you care what happens to the Colts no-huddle offense? I think it's already significant enough to miss a play. Besides, what happens to your Colts when say Reggie Wayne or, heaven forbid, Bubblehead Manning has to sit for 5 plays because of a minor injury during an important drive?
I just never really thought about faking injury as a strategy to slow the other team's offense. Pretty much all teams have a no huddle offense that they go to as part of the two minute drill, not just the Colts. And as mvscal pointed out, there is a rule in place to prevent such things, but that is more along the lines of penalizing the offense rather than the defense. What I've seen is akin to a soccer player or hockey player taking a dive. Ultimate bitch moves, and the NFL ain't for bitches. I can separate rooting interests to look at it from an objective point of view. Can't you? Hell, I wish the Titans had the same problem.
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Soccer may have its bitch move divers but it also has laws that will put an injured player off the field until the referee lets 'em back on. Be interesting to see if football adopted a similar rule. Go down a man a couple of plays until "injured guy" is ready to come back on. Oh, what's that, coach? I didn't see you waving frantically at me gesticulating like a severed lizard tail that you want your pussy diver back on the field to play defense. Oh, you're in the red zone now? Maybe you should consult that Denny's menu in your left hand and see if it tells you to use one of those timeouts now.
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Some interesting reading...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Especially the part where the Browns player said he would do the same thing.
Browns wide receiver Chansi Stuckey(notes) supported Mangini’s theory that the Lions were faking. According to the official play-by-play, there were six instances—with five different players—where a Detroit player went down with an injury during the no-huddle and then returned.

“Definitely,” Stuckey said. “I knew that. That’s what their coach does. If someone tries to do that (no huddle) to us, I would expect our guys to do the same thing. Unless it gets into that under two-minute situation where that causes a timeout, any other time it’s fine and I would do the same thing.

Stuckey said the injury ruse can be effective in slowing down a hurry-up attack.

“Once you’re going, those defensive linemen can’t run in and off the field,” he said. “They’re getting tired, they do four, five pass rushes in a row, they’re getting tired, so someone has to do something like that to try to slow us down and stop the rhythm and try to get some fresh guys on the field.”
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IndyFrisco wrote:I just never really thought about faking injury as a strategy to slow the other team's offense. Pretty much all teams have a no huddle offense that they go to as part of the two minute drill, not just the Colts. And as mvscal pointed out, there is a rule in place to prevent such things, but that is more along the lines of penalizing the offense rather than the defense.
I'm pretty sure there is a 5 yard penalty for the defense in those situations.
What I've seen is akin to a soccer player or hockey player taking a dive. Ultimate bitch moves, and the NFL ain't for bitches. I can separate rooting interests to look at it from an objective point of view. Can't you?


The Steelers have been going no huddle a lot more than most teams this year. What you propose would make Big Ben's day. I just happen to think it is a stupid idea. The fact that it screws the Colts is even better.
Hell, I wish the Titans had the same problem.
If they drafted QBs with double digit Wonderlick scores they just might.
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BSmack wrote:
Hell, I wish the Titans had the same problem.
If they drafted QBs with double digit Wonderlick scores they just might.
Pigment problem, racist fuck?
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IndyFrisco wrote:Pigment problem, racist fuck?
Are you fucking kidding me?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... rlic_x.htm
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BSmack wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Pigment problem, racist fuck?
Are you fucking kidding me?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football ... rlic_x.htm
No, I was being ironic.
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mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:If they drafted QBs with double digit Wonderlick scores they just might.
Like Rothlesswhatever is any smarter.
He's two Super Bowls smarter than Phillip Rivers.
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I hate that pathetic soccer shit too.

Your rule is pointless though. Since teams platoon the D line anyway, one of the players who needs a blow will fake the injury. He'll then sit on the sidelines for five plays, but he was gonna do that anyway.
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